[Burnaby] The Amazing Brentwood | 15 Towers | 186m | 56 flrs | U/C & Proposed

[yvrTAB2]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

They only open at 4pm so I guess that makes sense - I've heard about Rec Room having long lines to get in, but I was imagining that was more of a weekend thing that a middle of the week thing!

Ive been a few times now. They slowly stream people in around 4. Mostly cause they stagger their staff start times so they don't want to overwhelm the openers. So it's not too bad of a wait if at 4pm the back of the line is at the food court.

Though once it gets to around 6pm, it's a bit of a wait. Most I waited is 30 minutes on a weekend. Though might be longer later in the day.

Anyone know what the stage in the plaza is going to be used for? The tent is done and they're putting up the base now

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by yvrTAB2

Ive been a few times now. They slowly stream people in around 4. Mostly cause they stagger their staff start times so they don't want to overwhelm the openers. So it's not too bad of a wait if at 4pm the back of the line is at the food court.

Though once it gets to around 6pm, it's a bit of a wait. Most I waited is 30 minutes on a weekend. Though might be longer later in the day.

Anyone know what the stage in the plaza is going to be used for? The tent is done and they're putting up the base now

Fitness classes?

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/unleash-energy-energize-bootcamp-tickets-164206146003

[yvrTAB2]

Just asked guest services. They will be having rotating live music from 12pm-7pm this weekend.

[SonyPS5]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRprRbXsYCO/?utm_medium=copy_link

Didn't know this was coming to the Brentwood

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by SonyPS5

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRprRbXsYCO/?utm_medium=copy_link

Didn't know this was coming to the Brentwood

1901 Rosser is the office block at The Madison - it would be in a ground floor retail space there.
https://www.spacelist.ca/listings/332577/bc/burnaby/for-lease/office/1901_rosser_ave

[SpongeG]

it looks like it will be next to the other Tokyo based eatery, KOKORO TOKYO MAZESOBA, a ramen place. They are taking the corner space.

[officedweller]

B.C.’s second L.L. Bean store is set to open in October in ­Burnaby at the Amazing ­Brentwood shopping mall.

https://www.timescolonist.com/business/l...20-at-mayfair-shopping-centre-1.24348728

[jasonpark]

Brentwood is turning into a major success. It didn't think they would be able to revitalize the mall especially during a pandemic

Shape properties literally increased the property price of all the condos around Brentwood. The Rec Room and Cineplex are packed. I went to Brentwood today and it was busy. Lots of new shops and the food court was packed. Once they fill tenants inside the mall it would be arguably better than Metro. I'm having good feelings about Lougheed now.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by jasonpark

Brentwood is turning into a major success. It didn't think they would be able to revitalize the mall especially during a pandemic

Shape properties literally increased the property price of all the condos around Brentwood. The Rec Room and Cineplex are packed. I went to Brentwood today and it was busy. Lots of new shops and the food court was packed. Once they fill tenants inside the mall it would be arguably better than Metro. I'm having good feelings about Lougheed now.

It will be different from Metrotown but it won't be better. Metrotown will still have more customers to draw from (more parking, more residents, more transit, more CRU).

[rofina]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

It will be different from Metrotown but it won't be better. Metrotown will still have more customers to draw from (more parking, more residents, more transit, more CRU).

Better is subjective.

Brentwood is already better - it has a large, fun, open air concept. Ill take that over Metrotown any day.

Plenty of other reasons why M-town might be better for others.

[Vin]

Doesn't matter which one is better. Fact is, collectively, both are in Burnaby, plus the shopping and entertainment scenes are way better than their counterparts in "Big Brother" Vancouver. And that's what counts. This is unprecedented in so many ways. Only difference being Brentwood Town Centre is way newer, and many entertainment/shopping outlets in Metrotown are getting a little old and need major updating.

When Oakridge Centre, Richmond Centre & Lougheed Town Centre redevelopments are completed, there would be some major competitions.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by rofina

Better is subjective.

Brentwood is already better - it has a large, fun, open air concept. Ill take that over Metrotown any day.

Plenty of other reasons why M-town might be better for others.

So you're basically saying that your reasons for why Brentwood is (already)"better" (which wasn't even what the original person was claiming)....are basically just as valid (to you) as his (are to him) ..

.....or put another way, just as useless (holistically and objectively speaking) as you're trying to dismiss his as being and make his out to be..

At the end of the day, his reason and justifications are more objective and empirically/factually grounded*.

Metrotown DOES have more foot traffic (and thus, more "life" and "livelihood", if you may) partially by virtue of being a major transit hub - third busiest in the entire Vancouver Metro area (which Brentwood is not), has more parking space and amenities for drivers and driving shoppers. Which are of themselves a consequence of more CRU and retail options and availability from the mall itself and surrounding pockets and areas.

All of which may or may not add up to "better" depending on who's considering the cases and what else is being factored.

(*it behooves to mention that ,..."large, fun, open air concept" are as subjective as all get out, in terms of criteria being used to consider whether either is "better". But you already stated that "Better" itself, is a subjective descriptor, so I suppose the point proves itself.

Also, I think the 'Plenty of other reasons why M-town might be better for others' where in essence the reasons he pointed out, why it in fact is,....for most)

[CondoInvestor]

Oakridge > Brentwood > Pacific Mall > Richmond Centre > Metrotown

[Spr0ckets]

LOL!

The way people get triggered by Metrotown (or people saying positive things about Metrotown) on this blog is hilarious.

It's almost like someone throws up a bat signal in the sky when that happens and......

"Quick, Robin!!! To the Batmobile!!!
Someone's saying something nice about Metrotown!!!
We must cut them/it down to size, posthaste!!!!"

It must be tough looking up to it (both literally and figuratively) all the time.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by CondoInvestor

Oakridge > Brentwood > Pacific Mall > Richmond Centre > Metrotown

Yet Metrotown sees more traffic than all the others (not sure about Pacific Centre). Still, I see no reason to pit these against each other as they offer a different experience each which is nice.

[jasonpark]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Yet Metrotown sees more traffic than all the others (not sure about Pacific Centre). Still, I see no reason to pit these against each other as they offer a different experience each which is nice.

True, it is also about demographics as well. Metrotown has cheap eats (Asian and western), Superstore, Walmart, T&T, and a more variety of everything. These things really cater to teenagers and college students that are on a budget.

Brentwood has Wholefoods, VIP theatre, and $4 coffee. This caters to wealthier millennials in their late 20s.

I like both!

[SpongeG]

I was there last night, for a monday evening it was quite packed. The plaza and its seesaws are drawing them in. It was weird we walked in the old entrance upstairs by London Drugs, it was very quiet and as we turned the corner and could see the new tables area you saw a blur of people and the noise of the crowds. The food court, it was around 7:00 pm, was packed, every food place still opened had a line-up, the one place had well over a dozen people lined up. The plaza was packed with people, the escalators in the grand lobby were in constant use. The Starbucks had a long line. There are still no real sit-down restaurant options yet, basil box is more of a pick-up and go place. Once some of the restaurants open it will be even busier I imagine.

I peeked behind the doors into where SuitSupply will go, it's has absolutely nothing happening inside, there aren't even windows yet. I wonder what the deal is with it, is it opening at all?

The biggest space on the plaza where LL Bean will go is all glassed in now and looks to be getting divided up into smaller spaces. I thought LL Bean might take up more of the space.


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[rofina]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

So you're basically saying that your reasons for why Brentwood is (already)"better" (which wasn't even what the original person was claiming)....are basically just as valid (to you) as his (are to him) ..

.....or put another way, just as useless (holistically and objectively speaking) as you're trying to dismiss his as being and make his out to be..

At the end of the day, his reason and justifications are more objective and empirically/factually grounded*.

Metrotown DOES have more foot traffic (and thus, more "life" and "livelihood", if you may) partially by virtue of being a major transit hub - third busiest in the entire Vancouver Metro area (which Brentwood is not), has more parking space and amenities for drivers and driving shoppers. Which are of themselves a consequence of more CRU and retail options and availability from the mall itself and surrounding pockets and areas.

All of which may or may not add up to "better" depending on who's considering the cases and what else is being factored.

(*it behooves to mention that ,..."large, fun, open air concept" are as subjective as all get out, in terms of criteria being used to consider whether either is "better". But you already stated that "Better" itself, is a subjective descriptor, so I suppose the point proves itself.

Also, I think the 'Plenty of other reasons why M-town might be better for others' where in essence the reasons he pointed out, why it in fact is,....for most)

So basically - opinions are like as*holes, everyone's got one.

Metrotown is dumpy. Bottom line. It doesn't look high end, it doesn't feel high end.

Metrotown is a middle market, high volume mall. That's how retail looks at it. Metrotown always does big boy numbers, but its not a place to put a flagship store.

Brentwood is more aligned with a Park Royal concept, which feels and is executed in a decidedly higher end way.

Metrotown will reign king in BC for a long time, if we are judging by # of visitors I don't expect Brentwood to ever topple it.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by rofina

So basically - opinions are like as*holes, everyone's got one.

Metrotown is dumpy. Bottom line. It doesn't look high end, it doesn't feel high end.

Metrotown is a middle market, high volume mall. That's how retail looks at it. Metrotown always does big boy numbers, but its not a place to put a flagship store.

Brentwood is more aligned with a Park Royal concept, which feels and is executed in a decidedly higher end way.

Metrotown will reign king in BC for a long time, if we are judging by # of visitors I don't expect Brentwood to ever topple it.

Like I said....

Triggered.

Everything you've said regarding why you think Brentwood is "better" is based on 'feelings'....

"dumpy" (your opinion. What did you say "opinions" are like again?)
"Doesn't look high-end"
"Doesn't 'FEEL' high end" (whatever the hell that means)

By comparison, everything Jollyburger stated in his post are literal and inarguable FACTS.

More parking.
More transit (options)
More residents.
More CRU and retail (options).

(and as a consequence, more foot traffic, more atmosphere, and arguably BETTER shopping experience - whether "better" in this case translates to you as "more high-end" or simply just "more convenient")

I'll leave you to figure out on your own which "opinion" is actually worth more and more valid.

One based on feelings.
Or one based on facts and real world empirical evidence.


Says "Better" is subjective, and then proceeds to state his post as if his opinion (that he likens to A*holes) is, or should be taken as fact.
You couldn't make this up if you tried.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Yet Metrotown sees more traffic than all the others (not sure about Pacific Centre). Still, I see no reason to pit these against each other as they offer a different experience each which is nice.

RE : "Oakridge > Brentwood > Pacific Mall > Richmond Centre > Metrotown"


It's a silly comparison if ever I saw one.

Two of those malls he notes as "better" than Metrotown are currently undergoing major redevelopment and are (in one case at least, a ) major construction site - in part because the old malls that were there and are being replaced were literally dying, and were, as one other more eloquent wordsmith poster here would put it,......literal "dumps".

So I'm not really sure whether the comparison is to malls that were in such dire shape and dying that they had to be redeveloped wholesale, or if it's to what the proposed new malls are going to like when the buildout is done for either of them in anywhere between 5 or 7 years to upwards of 15 years.
In which case then why stop there?
If we're making comparisons to malls and shopping centers that even don't exist yet, then why not compare them to the Metrotown mall that will exist in the future when Ivanhoe Cambridge complete their own 'Metrotown Downtown' redevelopment in 80 years time or so when none of us will be around to judge them?

We don't even know if either of them will be successful when their respective redevelopments are done, any more than we know if a Metrotown redevelopment will likewise be successful.

And another of the comparisons is to a shopping center in Downtown Vancouver which hardly seems like a logical (much less fair) comparison to any stretch of imagination, if you're comparing like-for-like with suburb malls in the metro region.

I don't really know what the point of it was at all to begin with, but such is the triggered state of mind I was talking about.