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How about Bilberry, after the nearby Bilberry Creek, for Orleans Boulevard?
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I love the idea! My guess though is that they'd nix it because they'll say it gives the impression the station is adjacent to Bilberry Drive. It isn't, though it is not that far. Though if they named it Bilberry Creek it might do the trick.
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One goofy example of how this can play out: in some Franco-Ontarian communities (like Casselman), property deeds for the main road of the town will say the home is on "Principale Street". Another odd historic example is that some townships in some francophone areas in Ontario used to have roads with type "Montée". Because Montée is not a legal street type in Ontario, technically such roads had Montée be part of the name itself and the street suffix would be null/blank. But with 911 dialing, many of those roads had the Montée dropped and simply became Roads.
Yeah in the eastern part of Rockland there is a fairly major road called Montée Outaouais. I wonder what it's real legal name is. Unofficially, many locals actually refer to it as "le chemin du golf".
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They did actually want to shorten the Tunney's Pasture station name to just "Tunney", in order to make it bilingual, but that proposal was dropped.

All street names in Ottawa are officially in one language. There's no way in Ontario law for a street to have different names in English and French.

A lot of the former leeway that used to be given to translate street names as you referred to with historic names like White Fathers Road - Avenue des Pères-Blanc, disappeared with the rollout of 911 emergency dialling, as that required consistent provincewide guidelines to be adopted for street names, and that included them being uniform in all languages.
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Yeah. There was a mini-controversy in the Wakefield area about a year or so ago when the local paper (The Low Down to Hull and Back - best name ever!) decided they would use French street names in their articles from now on. They cited the need to harmonize with official names in GPS and other systems.

For example, what is known to many as Valley Drive is officially Chemin de la Vallée-de-Wakefield.
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I'm pleasantly surprised by the pedestrian/cycling connections shown for all the stations. Especially with adding a MUP over Jeanne d'Arc and the reconfiguration of the Orleans Blvd overpass.

I really wish they would delete the 2nd pedestrian bridge at Place d'Orleans (eliminate the fare paid area) and add a bridge at Trim station to the north of the 174 instead.
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Good Day.

More from City : Stage 2 Confederation Line East Extension Spring 2020 Update

https://ottawa.ca/en/planning-developmen...n-line-east-extension-spring-2020-update

Included is a YouTube video 1:00 minute (audio is generic music only).

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Overview
Work is well underway to extend the Confederation Line from Blair Station to Trim Road. The Confederation Line East extension will see LRT continue from Blair Station to Trim Road, adding 12 kilometres of rail and 5 new stations to the O-Train network at Montreal Road, Jeanne d’Arc Boulevard, Orleans Boulevard, Place d’Orleans, and Trim Road.

The Confederation Line East will travel predominantly within the median of Highway 174 between Blair Road and Trim Road, providing stations that are equal distance from communities on either side. In 2020, crews will be focusing on relocating Highway 174 lanes to create enough space in the median for the stations and track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxNexaG2IdQ

The City of Ottawa’s Rail Construction Program is closely monitoring the COVID-19 situation and is in contact with the constructors about adhering to guidance provided by Ottawa Public Health and the Province of Ontario. Construction schedules and sequencing are subject to change as work progresses, at the discretion of the project contractor. Should there be any significant changes to this information, and as additional construction activities are scheduled through 2020, the public will be updated via electronic updates. Please sign-up for Stage 2 e-newsletter updates, specifying the extensions and stations of interest, to receive updates targeted for those areas.

Here is what construction you can expect to begin or occur in 2020:

Montreal Interchange Bridge Work
In 2020, a critical component of the Confederation Line East work will be constructing two new bridges at the Highway 174 Montreal Interchange.

Montreal Station will be located above Montreal Road within the median of Highway 174. This requires two new Highway 174 bridges and a reconfiguration of the interchange to shift ramps, traffic, utilities and multi-use pathways away from where the future station will be located.

Work in the Montreal Interchange can be broken down in phases:

Phase 1 - May 2019 to March 2020:
Crews have relocated the existing ramps and completed installing excavation support on both sides of the highway.

Phase 2 - April 2020 through summer (up to Labour Day) 2020:
Crews are building the retaining wall in the interchange. Further to this, work on the drill shafts and additional utility relocations will take place. The new Montreal bridge substructures and deck works begin.

The north side lanes of Montreal Road in this immediate area will be closed to accommodate the work zone, and south side lanes will be used to accommodate bi-directional traffic until Labour Day 2020 or before.

Traffic impacts on Montreal Road - April 10th through summer (up to Labour Day) 2020

Northside vehicular lanes under the highway overpass will be closed, and south side lanes will be repurposed to accommodate bi-directional traffic. As a result, vehicular lanes will be reduced to one lane in each direction in order to construct the new centre bridge piers. One left turning lane from the Highway 174 eastbound off ramp will be closed, and the other will remain open. All on and off ramp movements will remain available, although moderate delays are expected at peak times.

All pedestrians and cycling movements will be maintained via the newly improved multi-use pathway on the south side of Montreal Road. The multi-use pathway on the north side will be closed.

Phase 3 - Post-2020:
Once the centre pier work is complete, various widenings and realignments of the ramps will continue, along with the work on the second bridge abutments, deck works, and finishing works. Once the two new bridges have been completed, traffic will be shifted during overnight hours, and demolition of the existing bridges will begin in preparation for station construction in the median.

East Flyover Rail Bridge
A new rail bridge will be constructed 800 metres east of the Highway 174 Blair Road Interchange, just east of the existing bus rapid transit (BRT) bridge.

The East Flyover Rail Bridge will bring the Confederation Line East from the north side of the highway into the Highway 174 median, where the guideway will remain until reaching the terminus station at Trim Road.

Later this summer, Highway 174 between Blair Station and Montreal Road will be temporarily shifted south to allow for the construction of the new rail bridge and demolition of the existing BRT bridge. Crews will be commencing construction of the new lanes on the south side of Highway 174 this spring.

Once traffic has shifted, work will begin on constructing the East Flyover’s foundation and bridge columns. When complete, precast girds will be laid on top of the columns allowing for the track to span over the westbound Highway 174 lanes. Once installed, a concrete deck will lifted into place.

Highway 174 Roadworks
Blair Road to Sir George Etienne Cartier Parkway
Work will begin this year to create new lanes on the south side of Highway 174 between Blair Road and Sir George Etienne Cartier Parkway. Eastbound and westbound traffic will shift to the south side of the existing median allowing for construction of the East Flyover to commence.

In order for this to occur, new lanes will be constructed on the south side of the highway. Eastbound traffic will shift onto the new lanes and westbound traffic will be detoured onto the former eastbound lanes.

In late 2020, all traffic on Highway 174 will be shifted to its new alignment allowing for guideway construction to begin in the median of Highway 174 between Blair Road and Sir George Etienne Cartier bridge.

Jeanne d’Arc Boulevard to Trim Road
Starting this spring the existing eastbound bus lane on will be shifted and reduced in width to create a work. Two key areas for roadworks are ramp modifications at the Jeanne d’Arc Interchange, and at the intersection of Trim Road and Highway 174, to begin in Spring 2020.

At Jeanne d’Arc, ramp access will be changed to near perpendicular turns, rather than the existing slip lanes. This will reduce speeds and increase safety for all road users. The westbound on-ramps will be removed; and the southbound and northbound lanes of Jeanne d’Arc Boulevard will both have signalized right turns. The westbound on-ramp from Jeanne d’Arc southbound is two lanes wide, meaning that traffic will turn into the southern lane, while buses serving customers will use the bus stop in its existing location in the north lane.

This ramp reconfiguration work has been expeditated in order to create a safer connectivity.

During this time, the multi-use pathway at the Champlain Interchange will begin excavation. The work on this MUP will continue from Spring 2020, through to the end of Summer 2020.

The second key roadwork area is at Trim Road starting in summer of 2020. The intersection of Trim Road and Highway 174 will be shifted farther east to allow for station construction to occur safely in the median. Please see Trim Station and Park and Ride Facility, under Station Construction, for further details.

Utility Work
Before construction can begin, various utilities such as sewers, hydro lines, watermains, and telecommunications infrastructure must be relocated to an area where they will be accessible and unimpacted by future operations. Various utilities need to be moved out of the way, replaced or upgraded.

This work will be ongoing throughout 2020 and 2021 at various locations from Blair Road to Trim Road:

East of Blair Road – Crews will be extending the storm sewer along the north side of OR 174 and the culverts on the south side. Doweling, rebar installation, and formwork erection for the reworked concrete collar will continue in the spring of 2020.
Shefford Road – Crews are replacing and relocating a watermain just south of Shefford Road, which continues south under OR 174. Temporary removal of a small section of sound attenuation wall is required until fall 2020.
Green’s Creek – Crews will be reconstructing the culvert within the centre median, and just south of OR 174. The Constructors will be starting operations at the beginning of May.
Jeanne d’Arc – Crews are replacing and relocating a watermain located within the interchange at OR 174.
Orleans Boulevard – Crews will be relocating a watermain, replacing a sanitary line and extend a storm sewer.
Alignment Wide – Hydro Ottawa crews are relocating/providing power supply connections in various places along the HWY174 alignment. These utilities are either being relocated or replaced in order to support the LRT infrastructure. The works include, various gas main relocations and raising overhead Rogers and Hydro Ottawa Lines. This is to take place from Spring 2020 to end of 2020, intermittently.
Traction Power Substation (TPSS) Preparatory Works
Traction Power Substations (TPSS) are plain box shaped buildings (approximately the size of shipping container) housing equipment which converts electricity from Hydro Ottawa to a lower voltage required for LRT vehicles to operate. Several TPSS structures will be dispersed along the LRT route.

In 2020, preparatory works for installation of a TPSS structure at Orleans Boulevard will begin. This includes installation and relocation of utilities, as well as framing and pouring a concrete pad.

Station Construction
In 2020, preparatory works for station construction will only occur in a few select areas. Given the focus of construction through this year includes road, utility, and bridge work, most station construction will occur in 2021 and beyond.

Place d’Orleans
In order to begin Place d’Orléans Station construction, excavation and site preparation will begin in early fall 2020. Following this, concrete will be placed for the start of foundation, wall and platforms.

Trim Station and Park & Ride
Several phases of work are required to create the newly realigned Trim Road and intersection. In (season) 2020, work will begin with the new eastbound ramp, along with the relocation of Highway 174 eastbound and westbound lanes. This will allow for excavation of the realigned Trim Road to occur. Construction of the new bus facility will also begin late in the year. Existing bus service and park and ride spaces will be maintained throughout this work.

Sound Attenuation Walls
Operations of trains along the East Extension are not expected to raise ambient noise levels for any residential areas along the route. Sound attenuation walls will be installed at the following locations:

East Acres Road to the existing wall at the Montreal Interchange (north side)
Jeanne d’Arc Boulevard to Orleans Boulevard (north and south side)
Orléans Boulevard to Champlain Street (north side, and small section on south side)
Champlain Street to Tenth Line Road(north side)
Tenth Line Road to Trim Road (small section on south side only)
Site grading and other preparatory works for installation will begin at select locations late in 2021. Sound attentuation wall installation is estimated to occur in 2022.

Guideway Construction
The LRT guideway includes fixed dual-track and track switches used for all train movements. Preparatory civil works for guideway construction will be begin late fall 2020 or early winter 2021.

Overnight Work
In order to avoid impacting peak traffic hours on Highway 174, there will be ongoing night work at station locations from Blair Road to Trim Road. Project teams are aware of residential homes in these areas and will sequence the work to manage and minimize impacts to residents.

Motorized equipment and vehicles used on the project are equipped with white noise-type broadband back-up alarms, which can be less disruptive to surrounding communities.

Night work can only occur with a valid City of Ottawa Noise By-law Exemption permit.
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That's awesome! Love to see progress, even during the pandemic. Thanks for posting!
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Renderings of the East Flyover Rail Bridge.


East Flyover Rail Bridge footprint


East Flyover Rail Bridge – Concept Image (Looking north-west)


East Flyover Rail Bridge – Concept Image (Looking south-east)


East Flyover Rail Bridge – Concept Image (Looking west)

https://ottawa.ca/en/planning-developmen...n-line-east-extension-spring-2020-update
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^ The last picture gives off a Lakeshore Blvd-type vibe...

I wonder if this design allows for a future Gloucester HS/Jasmine station as was promised...
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^ The last picture gives off a Lakeshore Blvd-type vibe...

I wonder if this design allows for a future Gloucester HS/Jasmine station as was promised...
There's no way of building a station in the medium of the highway after the fact based on these images however, on GeoOttawa, there's a pocket track before the fly-over. By removing that pocket track, you could build a center platform station.
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There's no way of building a station in the medium of the highway after the fact based on these images however, on GeoOttawa, there's a pocket track before the fly-over. By removing that pocket track, you could build a center platform station.
Good Day.

While true, I believe that they are still hanging on to planning for short-turns at Blair by use of the pocket.
And with the obvious space constraints of the flyover and space for necessary elevation/grade change,
there is just no space for a station anywhere to the west end of Sutton Pl.
Any station would have to be shoe-horned in to the median at the east end of Sutton Pl.
IMHO - they have "forgotten" all about accommodation for a Jasmine station. It's gone.

I also see little to no planning in the diagrams available for accommodation for a Tenth Line station either. i Hope to be proven wrong ?

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I wouldn't put it past them to design things so as to make the eventual addition of a station at Jasmine totally impossible.

There is nothing these people hate more than the idea that their decisions can be second-guessed or even being improved upon later.
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Good Day.

While true, I believe that they are still hanging on to planning for short-turns at Blair by use of the pocket.
And with the obvious space constraints of the flyover and space for necessary elevation/grade change,
there is just no space for a station anywhere to the west end of Sutton Pl.
Any station would have to be shoe-horned in to the median at the east end of Sutton Pl.
IMHO - they have "forgotten" all about accommodation for a Jasmine station. It's gone.

I also see little to no planning in the diagrams available for accommodation for a Tenth Line station either. i Hope to be proven wrong ?

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The complete elimination of Tenth Line and Orleans Town Centre stations wouldn't be such a huge loss IMO. The three stations would end up ridiculously close to one another. We would have ended up with 4 stations over 3.2 kilometers in the suburbs.

The loss of Jasmine, serving a low-income, high density area is disappointing. That's a 4 kilometer station gap.

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I wouldn't put it past them to design things so as to make the eventual addition of a station at Jasmine totally impossible.

There is nothing these people hate more than the idea that their decisions can be second-guessed or even being improved upon later.
I feel like that's what they did with Bayview. They went out of their way to come up with a design that:
  1. Eliminates the possibility of interlining the Trillium and Confederation Lines;
  2. Eliminates the possibility of bringing STO service to the station via PoW;
  3. Makes it extremely difficult to add vertical circulation at the east side of the station between Line 1 platforms and Line 2's "northbound" platform;
  4. #3 makes it nearly impossible to cross the Trillium over to Gatineau using the PoW since we need a pedestrian pathway within the fare-paid zone in front of the Trillium trains on the north side to connect the two Trillium platforms.
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But with 911 dialing, many of those roads had the Montée dropped and simply became Roads.
Yeah, North American emergency system designers are stupid people who faint at really simple data problems.
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Good Day.

While true, I believe that they are still hanging on to planning for short-turns at Blair by use of the pocket.
And with the obvious space constraints of the flyover and space for necessary elevation/grade change,
there is just no space for a station anywhere to the west end of Sutton Pl.
Any station would have to be shoe-horned in to the median at the east end of Sutton Pl.
IMHO - they have "forgotten" all about accommodation for a Jasmine station. It's gone.

I also see little to no planning in the diagrams available for accommodation for a Tenth Line station either. i Hope to be proven wrong ?

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Disappointing.

I'm also confused about the plan for bus service to the Montreal Rd. station. Are they thinking of extending the 12 to end there instead of at Blair? There doesn't seem to be any kind of bus turn-around planned for Montreal station, so I'm not sure how any routes would be able to terminate there.
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I got an answer back from the Stage 2 project team:

"The Environmental Assessment for the Stage 2 project in the East determined the possibility of a future station (beyond 2031) in the area of Gloucester High School/Jasmine, just east of the east flyover bridge, in the centre median of Highway 174. Current road realignment construction takes this into account, to provide adequate space within the centre median to accommodate a future station and platforms. At that time, a pedestrian bridge to the north would be required for connectivity."
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I got an answer back from the Stage 2 project team:

"The Environmental Assessment for the Stage 2 project in the East determined the possibility of a future station (beyond 2031) in the area of Gloucester High School/Jasmine, just east of the east flyover bridge, in the centre median of Highway 174. Current road realignment construction takes this into account, to provide adequate space within the centre median to accommodate a future station and platforms. At that time, a pedestrian bridge to the north would be required for connectivity."
Ah ben là.

Well then, I'll take back what I said!
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Yeah. There was a mini-controversy in the Wakefield area about a year or so ago when the local paper (The Low Down to Hull and Back - best name ever!) decided they would use French street names in their articles from now on. They cited the need to harmonize with official names in GPS and other systems.

For example, what is known to many as Valley Drive is officially Chemin de la Vallée-de-Wakefield.
IIRC, they were encouraged to do so by the Boubou Macoute.
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IIRC, they were encouraged to do so by the Boubou Macoute.
I take it you do remember what their raison-d'être was?
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I got an answer back from the Stage 2 project team:

"The Environmental Assessment for the Stage 2 project in the East determined the possibility of a future station (beyond 2031) in the area of Gloucester High School/Jasmine, just east of the east flyover bridge, in the centre median of Highway 174. Current road realignment construction takes this into account, to provide adequate space within the centre median to accommodate a future station and platforms. At that time, a pedestrian bridge to the north would be required for connectivity."
That's great news. I imagine they will do that whenever a second branch is built in the east end, eliminating the need for the pocket track behind the future Costco.

I imagine the Cumberland Transitway will be built as rail right off the bat as part of Stage 4 (certainly not my first choice), but they will start at Blair and go directly of Orleans instead of Hurdman, where the rail line would have served the Hospital Campus, Elmvale Acres and Science and Tech.
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Construction Notice: East Extension
Excavation Works along Highway 174 at Champlain Street

April 2020

This notice is to advise that, as part of the Stage 2 O-Train Light Rail Transit (LRT) project, crews and equipment will be working along Highway 174 at Champlain Street to complete drainage, utility work and roadworks. Moderate to high noise levels are anticipated.

WHAT: Significant rock excavation, placement of drainage pipelines, and manhole installation will take place. Temporary concrete barriers will be installed along this section of Highway 174 prior to the beginning of work, to create a safe work zone. The Highway 174 westbound on-ramp, at Champlain Street, will be realigned in order to move the traffic further away from the work zone.

WHY: Crews will be excavating rock at a depth of several metres along the highway to accommodate pipe and manhole installation. This preparatory work is required prior to beginning construction on the future Place d’Orleans LRT Station. Crews will be working during day and overnight, in order to maintain the project schedule.

WHERE: Along Highway 174, east and west of Champlain Street.

WHEN: Late April 2020 through July 2020, Monday to Friday, and occasionally on weekends.

HOURS: Daytime and overnight work is required between late April and July 2020; a City of Ottawa Noise By-law Exemption Permit is in effect.



ANTICIPATED IMPACTS

All pedestrian, cycling and vehicular access will be maintained. Temporary concrete barriers will be in place to create a safe work zone, away from road users. Pedestrians and cyclists should use extra caution. Motorists may wish to allow for a little extra travel time, and should adhere to traffic control signage, posted speed limits and instructions of traffic control personnel.

Overnight work will occur Monday to Friday and occasionally on weekends under a Noise By-Law Exemption Permit. Noise levels are expected to be lower than 85dba. Noise levels will be monitored, and in an effort to mitigate, additional plywood sheets will be installed on top of jersey barriers to provide temporary sound attenuation.

The safety of workers and the public is paramount, and we thank you for your patience during construction.
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