Highways in Canada

[Acajack]

Voir Okotoks et mourir.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

In fairness, the visitor's guide won an award, not the slogan. That said, I did say "so bad, it's good". It got a lot of attention on social media and made me laugh. Not many slogans manage to do that and it's memorable as a result.

The slogan, "There are a number of things to do in Okotoks," was one component of a larger advertising initiative that included the 2015 Okotoks Visitor and Activities Guide, a publication that received a national award this week from the Economic Developers Association of Canada.

[haljackey]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Thanks for that 407 Frank.

How much do they charge per km?

That was mine

I would assume the toll charge would be similar to the 407 ETR. See their rates here:
https://www.407etr.com/en/tolls/tolls/toll-calculator.html

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Also here's a quick tour of Highway 412 that was built as part of the 407 extension. It connects the 407 with the 401.

Put annotations on if you'd like some info. If not, sit back and enjoy the drive.

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[YEG]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Still cant beat the 4 stacks at 400&407 and 407&410

407 & 410 is only three stacks though?

[red-paladin]

Any word on when West and Southwest Stoney Trail will be built in Calgary?

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by red-paladin

Any word on when West and Southwest Stoney Trail will be built in Calgary?

West leg is TBD. My guess is that the NDs will announce it during the next election period. The SW leg will see full construction start very soon. Preliminary work has been going on for months.

[lubicon]

Originally Posted by Corndogger

West leg is TBD. My guess is that the NDs will announce it during the next election period. The SW leg will see full construction start very soon. Preliminary work has been going on for months.

Correct. The contract for the SWRR was just awarded and the project must contractually be completed by fall 2021. The west portion remains unfunded and given the dire financial situation of the Province It's hard to see this portion going ahead any time soon. Unfortunately.

[Kokkei Mizu]

Sarcee Trail in Calgary. And my first attempt at road signs, let me know what you think

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[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Voir Okotoks et mourir.

I'd put it on my bucket list, but I have been there. Repeat visit unnecessary.

Four cows die in Okotoks after being chased by vehicle

Top 10 Things to Do in Okotoks:

Enjoy the splendid Sheep River Valley with 79kms of picturesque pathway for your pleasure! View the pathways map
We love to eat and boast 75+ amazing restaurants! Visit our business directory
Shopping is awesome! All the brand names you could ask for plus wonderful boutique style shops downtown. Visit our business directory
The culture scene is thriving; check out our theatre troupe, the Dewdney Players at the Rotary Performing Arts Centre.
Get Sporty! Lots of winter & summer sporting events to choose from including Okotoks Oilers & Okotoks Bisons hockey and the Okotoks Dawgs baseball.
Fore! Don't forget about the D'Arcy Ranch , Crystal Ridge & River's Edge golf courses, and the new mini-golf course at Crystal Ridge.
Okotoks annual events attract approximately 78,000 people per year!! Join us for our Parade & Children's Festival, Show & Shine, Pro Rodeo, Light Up and so much more! Visit our event calendar
Get inspired! Our art galleries and museum offer creative and thought-provoking exhibits all year round.
A little bit country - check out the agri-tourism in our region! There are wonderful locations around Okotoks such as the Millarville Farmer's Market , Saskatoon Farm , Kayben Farms , Chinook Honey & more! View the full list of regional activities
The Big Rock! Okotoks' Glacial Erratic was recently named one of the world's 500 most significant cultural sites!

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[Marshal]

This first one's for our lovable libtard,
I spent an extended period driving the Austrian Autobahns, and the southern German Autobahns this summer, and they all made extensive use of 'jersey' barriers that were very similar in design to those used here in BC. There were virtually no poured in place/continuous barriers outside of interchanges and tunnel entrance/exits.

Another note of curiousity is that the amount of maintenance, construction and repair was staggering in Germany. It seemed that the high speed of traffic was necessary to average out the 20-30 km/hr construction zones that were usually 1-5 km long - over the long haul our speed varied from 220 km/hr to 20/km/hr, and averaged maybe 100 km/hr. On one drive, I counted 27 construction zones between Zurich and Munich.

And lastly, people really obeyed the posted limits and the driver discipline was exceptional. It was literally a free flow of 3 lanes with everyone respecting the graduated speed of each lane, and with the inside lane moving at 160-220 km/hr. And as soon as a speed limit reduction was posted, everyone slowed to that speed. There were very few speeders, and fewer people going the wrong speed for the lane they were in. Traffic moved very well, and though faster than here, the driving was so predictable that it felt considerably calmer than our free-for-all.

[ssiguy]

Thanks for the 407 toll rates. Those are pretty steep and would add up pretty damn fast.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Thanks for the 407 toll rates. Those are pretty steep and would add up pretty damn fast.

Those rates are crazy but so typically Canadian.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Marshal

This first one's for our lovable libtard,
I spent an extended period driving the Austrian Autobahns, and the southern German Autobahns this summer, and they all made extensive use of 'jersey' barriers that were very similar in design to those used here in BC. There were virtually no poured in place/continuous barriers outside of interchanges and tunnel entrance/exits.

Another note of curiousity is that the amount of maintenance, construction and repair was staggering in Germany. It seemed that the high speed of traffic was necessary to average out the 20-30 km/hr construction zones that were usually 1-5 km long - over the long haul our speed varied from 220 km/hr to 20/km/hr, and averaged maybe 100 km/hr. On one drive, I counted 27 construction zones between Zurich and Munich.

And lastly, people really obeyed the posted limits and the driver discipline was exceptional. It was literally a free flow of 3 lanes with everyone respecting the graduated speed of each lane, and with the inside lane moving at 160-220 km/hr. And as soon as a speed limit reduction was posted, everyone slowed to that speed. There were very few speeders, and fewer people going the wrong speed for the lane they were in. Traffic moved very well, and though faster than here, the driving was so predictable that it felt considerably calmer than our free-for-all.

And here in Canada we have Centre Lane Hogs, people who tailgate, an of course those who have no idea what a turn signal is for.

If we had Autobahns, there would be accidents and deaths galore.

[eemy]

And knowing some centre-lane hogs, they are convinced that they are doing the safe and proper thing and sneer at people who end up passing them in the right lane because it is quite literally completely devoid of traffic.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Thanks for the 407 toll rates. Those are pretty steep and would add up pretty damn fast.

Originally Posted by Corndogger

Those rates are crazy but so typically Canadian.

The high rates are what keeps the highway free-flowing. If they were reduced by much more than 10% or so the highway would immediately become choked with traffic.

[Marshal]

The thing that impressed me most was the discipline. It was as if everyone understood that by doing things properly, everyone would get to their destination ASAP and as safely as possible too. Odd, huh? After all, they were not doing anything special, rather, just following common sense.

[Marshal]

This reminds me of another version of effective driver behaviour. In Milan, everyone drove aggressively, honked a lot, cut you off if there was any possibility to do so. But, I quickly noticed that no one was actually getting upset. Everyone expected to get cut off, honked at, etc. It was as if there was an unspoken agreement that in order to get about everyone agreed that this kind of driving was necessary. So, when you got cut off, you simply forgave the other guy because he was only trying to get around like you were.

And it worked. Like the discipline of the Germans, the agreement by all made driving predictable. I doubt it helped with safety though. You had to push yourself to drive in a manner that we would consider obnoxious, but once over that, the benefits were noticeable. It was also fun (but again, also more dangerous): I cut off a four car streetcar, the driver rang his bell and then waved.

[sonysnob]

At the end of September, I took a drive up from the GTA into northeastern Ontario and northwestern Quebec to have a look at the early fall colours. I took some photos and shot a couple of videos of my drive.

This is the first of such videos, taken at the northern end of Hwy 400 and the start of Hwy 69. Hwy 69 is somewhat of an interesting highway, so I really wanted to record it on video before it's all twinned.

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[MonctonRad]

Nice video - reminds me a lot of parts of Highway 1 here in NB.

[manny_santos]

Originally Posted by Marshal

This reminds me of another version of effective driver behaviour. In Milan, everyone drove aggressively, honked a lot, cut you off if there was any possibility to do so. But, I quickly noticed that no one was actually getting upset. Everyone expected to get cut off, honked at, etc. It was as if there was an unspoken agreement that in order to get about everyone agreed that this kind of driving was necessary. So, when you got cut off, you simply forgave the other guy because he was only trying to get around like you were.

And it worked. Like the discipline of the Germans, the agreement by all made driving predictable. I doubt it helped with safety though. You had to push yourself to drive in a manner that we would consider obnoxious, but once over that, the benefits were noticeable. It was also fun (but again, also more dangerous): I cut off a four car streetcar, the driver rang his bell and then waved.

Driving in Mexico is like that too, especially in Mexico City. Though in rural areas you also have to deal with wandering farm animals such as cows, chickens and donkeys. I once saw a dead cow being removed by police from a rural road, and another time I saw a donkey standing in the middle of a road on a tight curve.