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Old Posted Jan 25, 2010, 10:30 AM
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Or at least if James Cheng could innovate a little.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2010, 4:47 PM
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Fantastic Plans!

Hopefully Concord will have employed some better architecture by then.
Don't count on it...

The only thing that can get Concord to change their architeccture is the UDP and I don't think they will do it as they do not seem to mind the uniformity of false creek.

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Oh, ok, I see now. Does the GM Tower have any chance of seeing the light of day? And where would it be located exactly in that pic?

It will sure make a cool drive in the future along the ducts being wedged between so many towers! It will be a true urban sight!
Since when was the GM tower done? It is still on the blocks as far as I know. All the major pre-con legwork is done will move ahead when market conditions warrant.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2010, 5:01 PM
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Why are there only three tiny condos in the NE false creek area? Does that have to be yet another unused park or something?
     
     
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It's been discussed to death in the NEFC thread, but that park is not even sufficient based on the city's population-park ratio as far as I know
     
     
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downtown density study (shape vancouver)

the city is conducting an on-line survey, with moveable buildings! this is to assess the public's attitudes towards density and the 'shape of vancouver'

everyone should weigh in on this:

http://www.shapevancouver.com/
     
     
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbi...c-micro-lofts-vancouver-burns-block.html


Micro-lofts promise Vancouver renters a break


A Vancouver development company thinks they may have a solution to the high rents many downtown residents are paying — 270-square-foot micro-lofts that will rent for about $300 less than the average bachelor suite.

Reliance Properties is building the suites in the 102-year-old Burns Block, a former six-storey warehouse at 18 W. Hastings St., about one block from the massive new Woodwards development on the Downtown Eastside.

General manager Jon Stovell says the micro-lofts will be about the size of two parking stalls, but will have pretty much everything essential for living, including a bathroom, kitchen, workspace and big loft-style windows that provide natural ventilation and bright views of the street.

"They have a fold-down wall bed, and when that wall bed is up, it has a fold-down table. We integrated a workbench with a built-in flat screen TV so that that does not take any room and created a glassy washroom enclosure that functions as a single area — shower, and toilet and sink all in one area.

Stovell doesn't think the tiny size will affects livability of the suites, which he compares to similar developments in cities such as New York and London, England, as there are plenty of amenities in the neighbourhood, such as cafés, restaurants and other public spaces.

"I think a couple could live in there," he said. "They are very beautiful and very modal, and you can switch them around in different ways, depending on what your needs are."
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The Burns Block building, located in the centre of Vancouver's troubled Downtown Eastside, was once converted to a low-income hotel, but has been sitting vacant after being shut down by city inspectors for fire code violations in 2006.

When the former low-income residents were evicted, local housing activists complained the city's policy of shutting buildings because of safety violations was depleting the stock of low-income housing in the area and contributing to a rise in homelessness.

The new lofts in the building are expected to rent for about $675 to $750 per month, making them suitable for anyone earning over $25,000 a year, but out of reach of their former residents, many of whom were on social assistance.

The average rent of a bachelor suite in downtown Vancouver is $979 per month according to the latest study by the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation, said Stovell.

The new development is not subsided by the government and is not targeted at the homeless. But despite the size of the lofts, they will be expensive to build, and neither the developers nor the builder, ITC Construction Group, expect to make much money on the project, he said.

Instead the companies took on the project as a social entrepreneur partnership to help meet the demand for affordable accommodation in the downtown core, he said.

The project was approved by the city in 2008 and is expected to be completed by March 2011.
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I do not get how so many people get 'excited' about Concord's plan. Concord refuses to be creative it seems and I keep hearing that quality is dropping faster than art installations and banners for the olympics.
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I do not get how so many people get 'excited' about Concord's plan. Concord refuses to be creative it seems and I keep hearing that quality is dropping faster than art installations and banners for the olympics.
agreed. concord should be drummed out of Vancouver........sad sorry bunch of money grubbing bastards. no integrity or creative desire.

just drop the cookie cutter down......and move on to the next.

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agreed. concord should be drummed out of Vancouver........sad sorry bunch of money grubbing bastards. no integrity or creative desire.

just drop the cookie cutter down......and move on to the next.

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Well, it was kind of our fault to begin with. Concord is what it is today because of its False Creek post-Expo era development. I recall the original proposal for the site, it was quite innovative and futuristic...lots of islands. But the city rejected the proposal, and basically dictated what they wanted stripping of any architectural creativity.

Concord then adopted the city's design principles, and hasn't tried very hard eversince knowing that their cookie cutter designs will still sell.

And to this day, the City of Vancouver still limits that innovation and architectural creativity...
     
     
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Yes, one still has to remember that they design what they KNOW will get passed. Anything daring or exciting is immediately shot down by this city and its UDP.

I am reluctant to blame the developer. They are just building what the city wants, which may or may not be what you actually want. If it wasn't Concord, it would be somebody else.

But we aren't in power to make that decision We're so starved for good architecture we consider Grace to be nice.
     
     
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Remember that it was the City that required the tower and podium massing.
It has only been in recent years that some taller podiums have been built on Robson Street (R&R, L'Hermitage, Raffles, L'Atelier) and under the Heather view cone (H+H, Richards Living) that taller podiums are being accepted. The podiums on Robson for the 819 looks ridiculously short these days.

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The Yaletown "raindrop" lights have been installed on lampposts on Pacific Boulevard next to the Roundhouse Community Centre. Haven't seen them lit though.
They look like a definite "add-on" (a bit flimsy looking).
     
     
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but concord is a brand and has a look

you wouldn't go to chanel to find a dress that looked like a gaultier
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Don't count on it...

The only thing that can get Concord to change their architeccture is the UDP and I don't think they will do it as they do not seem to mind the uniformity of false creek.



Since when was the GM tower done? It is still on the blocks as far as I know. All the major pre-con legwork is done will move ahead when market conditions warrant.
That is exactly what I wanted to hear. Hehe, the GM tower is actually among my favorite proposals in the Vancouver area. I just wasn't sure of its status (we see so many pipe dream towers make it to renderings but then never hear anything about the m again, I was afraid that the GM tower was in the same category. Anyone remember the stilts?)
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here she is again in better res

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no comments on the parkade at pender and beatty?
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^ i like this plan a lot better than the city's...the city's vision of a massive park unattended never made much sense. I'm guessing the shorter buildings by BC Place are meant to maintain some sort of view of the stadium?
     
     
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The three towers in the park are not going to happen. If concord thinks that is realisic they must have a magic land stretcher to make the existing parks the west waayyy bigger.

(Plus they would block my view of science world and I will not stand for it, I am the creme de la creme of the DTES!)
     
     
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^ i like this plan a lot better than the city's...the city's vision of a massive park unattended never made much sense. I'm guessing the shorter buildings by BC Place are meant to maintain some sort of view of the stadium?
Unattended!??? Have you been to Andy Livingston? It is chock-a-block with people from 6 am to midnight. Try adding another six or seven towers on the Concord lands, whatever Canadian Metropolitan gets to build, plus the towers around BC place. That park will be as needed as David Lam, if not more.
     
     
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no comments on the parkade at pender and beatty?
It isn't clear to me from the photo that the project you're referring to is actually located on the parkade site, though it would make the most sense. (the only other site I could think of is right next to the AMEC building on Cambie).

That parkade is City-owned and so it is doubtful that they would sell for residential development. Even if they did, it would have to go through some kind of tender process and Concord wouldn't likely be the highest bidder. Good catch though as it is a curious inclusion. Maybe someone else can elaborate?
     
     
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The three towers in the park are not going to happen. If concord thinks that is realisic they must have a magic land stretcher to make the existing parks the west waayyy bigger.

(Plus they would block my view of science world and I will not stand for it, I am the creme de la creme of the DTES!)
If you look closely, the parkland is distributed across the whole redevelopment site so that it intertwines with condo development rather than having just one big mass of parkland. There isn't any reduction in the city's frivolous quota on parkland for the site.
     
     
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Unattended!??? Have you been to Andy Livingston? It is chock-a-block with people from 6 am to midnight. Try adding another six or seven towers on the Concord lands, whatever Canadian Metropolitan gets to build, plus the towers around BC place. That park will be as needed as David Lam, if not more.
And what defines "chock-a-block with people"?
     
     
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