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[west-town-brad]

Originally Posted by marothisu

That is bullshit. Many disabled people actually need them to just drink anything. Plastic straws were first introduced at hospitals for the use by certain disabled and injured peoples. Eventually some people caught on and thought it would be great for the general public.

You might want to actually review what you know before blindly speaking and fucking over a group of people

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ity-community/

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-43485362

Yes, we have plastic straws at every.single.restaurant.on.the.planet because we all care so much about the handicaps....

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by west-town-brad

Yes, we have plastic straws at every.single.restaurant.on.the.planet because we all care so much about the handicaps....

No, that's not what I meant. Banning these things without understanding there's an actual need is frivolous. I should have maybe pointed out that I personally believe you could get rid of a lot of them, but there is a need for some people that is more medical, even at a restaurant. There is a compromise somewhere in between. I don't agree with either side in this debate being keep all of them or get rid of all of them. Either side is short sighted.

But I agree this is dumb to talk about here. But people need to be more educated instead of blindly hopping on any bandwagon.

[JK47]

Originally Posted by 10023

But it’s plastic that’s the problem, not cardboard (which biodegrades).

Cardboard and paper products in general are not biodegradable unless you litter. Studies in landfills have uncovered paper bags that have been intact for decades and it could take hundreds of years for a paper bag to break down (paper needs oxygen to degrade which isn't possible in a landfill). In fact they're worse than plastic since paper bags are heavier and take up more space in landfills than plastic bags.

No one really needs a straw and they shouldn’t be used.

People with disabilities often need straws. Young children also need straws as well.

[the urban politician]

It would make more sense to simply provide straws (like any other medical supply) to the disabled than to force every single chain restaurant on Earth to carry them.

Anyhow, let’s stop talking about straws, everyone!

[the urban politician]

Stop talking about this please

[Busy Bee]

Florida Georgia Line...

Go!

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

^Woah, did that girl just run through a bunch of barbed wire?

Nope, just attended Columbia College for a few semesters...

[Jim in Chicago]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Nope, just attended Columbia College for a few semesters...

A few semesters? More like a couple weeks. Each fall we watch the parental units drop off seemingly clean cut kids. Within a week they look like her. I can only imagine what the parents think when they pick up the kids for Christmas break.

[Busy Bee]

There's really no need to discuss whether people need or don't need straws. It's a personal preference. Make them out of waxed paper like they used to be and be done with it.

[Busy Bee]

^Woah, did that girl just run through a bunch of barbed wire?

[Busy Bee]

Well it's no I Fall To Pieces...

[left of center]

Paper straws are great until you learn how absolutely toxic paper mills are to the environment, let alone the mass destruction of forests to create this very energy intensive product that is used for a few minutes and then tossed away.

Reusable plastic straws would be a better bet, IMO. Same goes with cups.

[bnk]

Everyone should be given a reusable straw at birth and keep it on them at all times. Women can keep it in their purse and men can be given a folding straw for their wallets. Lose it and charge them $ 100 dollars for a replacement. Lose it a second time fine them $1000. The third time it happens than Three strikes and your out, talking jail time. Problem solved.

[left of center]

Originally Posted by bnk

Everyone should be given a reusable straw at birth and keep it on them at all times. Women can keep it in their purse and men can be given a folding straw for their wallets. Lose it and charge them $ 100 dollars for a replacement. Lose it a second time fine them $1000. The third time it happens than Three strikes and your out, talking jail time. Problem solved.

Or... just drink straight from a glass like any normal, healthy person can?

[Rizzo]

Originally Posted by left of center

Paper straws are great until you learn how absolutely toxic paper mills are to the environment, let alone the mass destruction of forests to create this very energy intensive product that is used for a few minutes and then tossed away.

Reusable plastic straws would be a better bet, IMO. Same goes with cups.

I get what you’re saying here, but I’m curious of what the share straws would have on tree harvest and chemical treatment at paper mills. So as long as that industry remains viable, it will continue to impact the environment. The question is whether additional production of straws out of paper is less harmful than non-biodegradable straws and the sourcing and production methods to make them. Both are bad for the environment, but it’s a matter of adding or reducing production at the plant, what does that impact have?

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by Via Chicago

Theres a thing called an obligation.

^ The city still has a yearly budget. It's not like it can't spend money on things while paying down its debt.

Don't pretend this has anything to do with fiscal responsibility--because we all know that the likes of you never cared about that to begin with.

This has to do with wanting to pay off your public employee unions who fucked us all over, and now plan to run with their money to Arizona.

Let me see: do I give $10M to Arizona, or $10M to the Chicago Riverwalk? Hmmm.... that's a tough one

[left of center]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ The city still has a yearly budget. It's not like it can't spend money on things while paying down its debt.

Don't pretend this has anything to do with fiscal responsibility--because we all know that the likes of you never cared about that to begin with.

This has to do with wanting to pay off your public employee unions who fucked us all over, and now plan to run with their money to Arizona.

Let me see: do I give $10M to Arizona, or $10M to the Chicago Riverwalk? Hmmm.... that's a tough one

There really should be a provision in the state constitution about this. If you live in state, you get your full pension, tax free. If you move out of state, there should be a portion that is withheld.

I'm sure even proposing this would be an immediate non starter in Springfield, sadly.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by left of center

There really should be a provision in the state constitution about this. If you live in state, you get your full pension, tax free. If you move out of state, there should be a portion that is withheld.

I'm sure even proposing this would be an immediate non starter in Springfield, sadly.

This is a good idea

[Busy Bee]

Just convert all drinkware to sippycups.

[SIGSEGV]

Who's going to be first to photograph Wells and Wells?