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Old Posted Mar 21, 2010, 2:47 PM
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If they were able to join One World, I am not sure if it would help YEG or simply focus more resources through Calgary and Vancouver. There would have to be a pretty compelling case to service all three when all the feeders to provide traffic connections into the larger airports at higher frequencies. Plus - making side deals with a carrier like Singapore, part of Star Alliance, isn't really smart. I would assume there is at least a bit of information sharing between the airlines, wouldn't Air Canada be able to enforce the alliance somehow to prevent WestJet from feeding SFO and LAX?

Not really sure West Jet is using the right strategy here however - if I was them I would buy Air Transat and their tour operator while they are under performing and leverage bigger metal where it is useful (flights to Hawaii and Europe) while displacing larger aircraft on the majority of the sun destination routes to provide semi regular service to Europe.

From that point, joining an alliance they would have a much stronger position, and their code shares, even if other alliance partners provide most of the capacity, might get them much more of the total revenue for the trip instead of just the domestic portion.
     
     
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Just for the sake of the argument, let me put on my Machiavellian cap for a minute. I am one of those who see the main strength of Westjet, as a business, as being their adherence to a sensible, but simple, business plan. This is based on the Southwest model, which includes such features as: single aircraft type, domestic only, no food, no interlining, no codeshares, no alliances, no frequent flyer plan, no hubs, etc. This, among other things, allows the company to move quickly to new markets, and protects their low unit costs. Moving from this plan may tap new markets at the cost of their traditional cost advantage.

If one accepts this argument, the upshot is that Westjet will become a new Canadian Airlines. Edmonton service will suffer, since the emphasis will be on providing "feed" to alliance "gateways" which will be Calgary and Toronto.

On the other hand, this will create room for one or more new "low cost" carriers, perhaps on the Ryanair model. This type of carrier would likely be beneficial to centres like Edmonton.

This is a bit far out right now, but anything could happen over the next ten years.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2010, 12:01 AM
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2010, 5:44 AM
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Canadian airports limited for European growth.

Interesting report.

(Madrid, Spain)-European Commission Vice-President Antonio Tajani released a report Friday indicating that even with the new EU-Canada air transport agreement being recently signed ''that growth will be limited''.
He went onto say that many of Canada's airports are already well served with the exception of some of the underserved markets that could warrant direct service that are currently being fed by some of the hub systems in the country.Among the cities noted Halifax, Ottawa and Edmonton were recently showed in studies conducted by the EU to have more than enough demand to warrant nonstop and direct flights to several EU Cities.Halifax Nova Scotia as a example shows that a increasing number of German's are travelling to the city as tourists, and although there are currently flights via German charter airline Condor flugdienst the airline is limited in the amount of service it can give to the region due to aircraft constraints based on aircraft shortages.On another note he spoke of Edmonton the capital city of Alberta and how ''the city has more demand than is being provided'' according to our studies.He explained that several EU carriers rushed to service Calgary some in there own right and others via alliances with the countries national airline Air Canada, Calgary has become oversaturated with the amount of European service it recieves while Edmonton has been ''overlooked''.

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines launched flights between Amsterdam and Calgary recently and has had to reduce its presence already due to the demand not being as strong as thought, and KLM continues to monitor the situation closely.British Airways has also reported difficult loads from Calgary recently that became even more noticeable when the economic crisis began.

"It comes down to too many carriers trying to offer too much service'' to a already well served destination.Everyone wants a piece of the action and that sometimes comes with a cost to some of the players.

Ottawa has also been a growing market for the EU and numbers are way up.He says there will likely be flights from France offered to Ottawa in 2011 as French charter airline Corsair has expressed a interest in adding Ottawa to its network.

Overall many EU carriers need to re-focus plans on expansion into Canada, ''nows the time to be making money and not losing it'' they need to think outside the box because some of the boxes are not full enough to fill them up. Antonio plans to present the report to several EU carriers in the coming months.


Now this sounds good for you guys if I might say myself!!!
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2010, 1:26 PM
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Sounds very encouraging!!
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2010, 3:13 PM
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Very interesting, link?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2010, 3:28 PM
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Great article but in cases like this does not Air Canada try and block any flights it deems a threat to its monopoly?

Remember Martinair and its attempt to expand its presence in Canada?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2010, 4:42 PM
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Very interesting, link?
There is no evidence of this report or these statements online anywhere from what I can tell. Must need to be in the biz.
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A link to that information would be helpful indeed.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 1:51 AM
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Hey what's up with all these phoney news releases that you are writing. People aren't stupid man.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 4:33 AM
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These are not news releases, its inter company newsletter stuff.

Not sure why the hostility???

Alright, I just wont share anymore news.

And some of the stuff posted can be found on a website yyz news.Thats were I got the WestJet and Emirates stuff.

I am sure you arent stupid dansk, but I wont share anymore if that makes you feel better.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 5:09 AM
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 5:12 AM
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Tuffyy, I dont doubt your information, and I didnt intent to come across as such. I figured it was exactly what you said, internal airport stuff. I know I get tips and info internally through work that are not official.
My apologies, again - no intent to come across that I doubt your information.. I always look forward to reading your posts
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 5:12 AM
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^^^ Perhaps it would help if you provided a weblink to the article, assuming there is one?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 5:21 AM
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I would lose my job.

It would be my ASUR internal account.

I'll just keep with the basics.Sorry for the apparent ''bull''.

No more ASUR stuff, just YEG since it is no good to some ''airline experts'' on here.

Just me and MMUN since its my priority anyway.

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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 2:34 PM
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^ iI'll take your inside info over that of the supposed "experts" on this board any day.

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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 2:41 PM
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TuffYY - I always look forward to your shared knowledge and contributions.

please continue!
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Keep it up Tuffyy! I enjoy reading what you have to say.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2010, 6:40 PM
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A "U2 - 360 tour" plane was spotted at YEG today... was it just a simple add on someone else's livery?

http://communities.canada.com/EDMONTONJO...is-u2-s-360-plane-doing-in-edmonton.aspx
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