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View Poll Results: Which route should be twinned? Quelle route doit-on élargir?
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And one of them is the Nipigon Bridge.
I’m already wondering if the bottlenecks of TCH should also be patrolled by RCMP.
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Are you saying that the city did something right? Say it ain't so.....
Yes the city did it right. I'm not sure where the funding came from but it would have been a costly project.
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Why not? Did widening City Road 35 contribute to urban sprawl? (I did notice that some communities in Greater Sudbury are very far from others.)
No it didn't cause any sprawl. But it was needed for the amount of traffic on that section. I believe there are plans to have the road 4-laned to Chelmsford.
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No it didn't cause any sprawl. But it was needed for the amount of traffic on that section. I believe there are plans to have the road 4-laned to Chelmsford.
Yea there is. The city might even start this year.
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Why not? Did widening City Road 35 contribute to urban sprawl? (I did notice that some communities in Greater Sudbury are very far from others.)
That's more a product of history and geography than 'sprawl' in the traditional sense.

The small towns that comprise the City of Greater Sudbury were often sited next to mines and smelters and were in effect small 'company towns'. The land in-between was often owned by the mining companies for operations, so no housing could be built there.

The most traditional 'sprawliest' place in Sudbury might be in the former City of Valley East. It was a bunch of small farming communities that has turned into suburban devleopment.
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Why not? Did widening City Road 35 contribute to urban sprawl? (I did notice that some communities in Greater Sudbury are very far from others.)
Short answer - You cannot build where the mines are.
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There’s a fatal crash on 17 in the town of Bonfield involving a tractor-trailer. The highway’s closed between 94 and 531. Please check out the video (periscope) posted under OPP North East for information on detour.

When opp says no detour, it can mean one of the following 3 possibilities:
(1) There really isn’t one;
(2) The detour’s so circuitous that one may as well wait for opp to clear the highway;
(3) There’s a detour, but it won’t be provincial roads - one must be very familiar with those side roads.
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There’s a fatal crash on 17 in the town of Bonfield involving a tractor-trailer. The highway’s closed between 94 and 531. Please check out the video (periscope) posted under OPP North East for information on detour.

When opp says no detour, it can mean one of the following 3 possibilities:
(1) There really isn’t one;
(2) The detour’s so circuitous that one may as well wait for opp to clear the highway;
(3) There’s a detour, but it won’t be provincial roads - one must be very familiar with those side roads.
Highway 64 and 533 would work. However, that is at least an hour or 2 longer than 17 between North Bay and Mattawa. Also, 533 is a very twisty highway.
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You mean Highway 63? Highway 11 then Highway 64 is for when the part of Highway 17 between Sturgeon Falls and North Bay gets blocked (which I believe y’all know).
Also update: According to CBC, Highway 17 has been reopened.
Ps: Don’t you have work?

In all seriousness, is there any petition similar to C.R.A.S.H.69 for pressuring MTO to upgrade 17 already??
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You mean Highway 63? Highway 11 then Highway 64 is for when the part of Highway 17 between Sturgeon Falls and North Bay gets blocked (which I believe y’all know).
Also update: According to CBC, Highway 17 has been reopened.
Ps: Don’t you have work?

In all seriousness, is there any petition similar to C.R.A.S.H.69 for pressuring MTO to upgrade 17 already??
Sorry, my mistake.
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Just asking, does anyone happen to have a comprehensive list of collisions that have happened on Sudbury SW Bypass (between Whitefish and Highway 69)? I'm going to do a (statistical) project on that for one of my courses. Going through all the tweets of OPPCommunicationsNER will be troublesome, and I will only have had data down to (and including) September 2014.

Also, can anyone find the AADT for Ontario provincial highways in 2017? The official website only has it up to (and including) the year of 2016.

Thanks a lot.
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With the provincial election looming, Safe on 17 (a Facebook group) is reminding voters along the 17 Corridor (particularly through Renfrew County) to ask each leader about his/her stance on twinning 17.
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The Liberal's today committed to twinning it. All of it. The entire fucking thing.

Liberal platform commits to full four-lane Trans-Canada Highway
Platform rolled out just before leaders participate in northern debate.
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/l...ll-four-lane-trans-canada-highway-921709

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THUNDER BAY – A completely four-lane Trans-Canada Highway throughout the province from the Manitoba border to the Quebec border highlights the Liberals’ plans for Northern Ontario should the party be elected to a fifth term in government.

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...the province will put permanent annual funding in place for the multi-billion dollar endeavour and will require support from the federal government.

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Probably on a 50 year timeline or something. Getting 2,000km done at $10m/km would mean a $20 billion program. Just get 20-30km opened every year and you can make some real progress.
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IMO the liberals had their chance. :shrugs:

Ps: When I was plowing through data on crashes on 17, I noticed a few notorious spots: Highway 6, Nairn Centre, Municipal Road 55 (west), Southview Drive, Coniston, Warren-Markstay, Drive-in Road (Sturgeon Falls), between 94 and 531, Pembroke Bypass and Renfrew Bypass.
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Meanwhile 17 got washed out at Wawa, once again.
(1) What a joke;
(2) Time to replace some culverts with actual bridges? Expensive? Yes, but with torrential rain more often nowadays, we probably need actual bridges.
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The Liberal's today committed to twinning it. All of it. The entire fucking thing.

Liberal platform commits to full four-lane Trans-Canada Highway
Platform rolled out just before leaders participate in northern debate.
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/l...ll-four-lane-trans-canada-highway-921709
The part of this announcement that gets me the most is the upgrades to the Thunder Bay Expressway. They are 4 years in but I suspect/fear that this will all go away again, just like the last time we had a PC government come into power.

I've also been driving along 11/17... they've started doing some of the preliminary work from Pass Lake to Pearl. There is not much to see unless you are actually looking for it. I find it hard to believe that they are expecting the whole stretch to be completed in 4-5 years... I wonder, too, if that will also change if the PCs are elected, despite Ford's promise to fix our "Scary" highways.
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I really wonder why NDP doesn't simply steal the idea of upgrading TCH from Liberals...

As for PC, from what vid said previously, Nipigon PC voted for Ford during the leadership race, so Ford will make sure to four-lane the bridge at the very least. (Elsewhere, it really will be a wildcard. I'm also concerned that what happened to T Bay in 1995 will happen again.)
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I really wonder why NDP doesn't simply steal the idea of upgrading TCH from Liberals...

As for PC, from what vid said previously, Nipigon PC voted for Ford during the leadership race, so Ford will make sure to four-lane the bridge at the very least. (Elsewhere, it really will be a wildcard. I'm also concerned that what happened to T Bay in 1995 will happen again.)
Ford is not guaranteed to do anything "at the very least".
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Never mind then.
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