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Old Posted Jan 25, 2016, 4:39 PM
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I think one of the biggest things we could do to make downtown living more attractive is find a solution to the container trucks.
Three main solutions have been floated to solve the truck traffic problem downtown...not, of course, including the status quo solution, which is to watch Halifax's importance as a port slowly erode to the point where no more containers land here.

(1) The most expensive of the three is to build a third harbour crossing, tunnel or bridge, to connect the south end to highway 111.
(2) Bill Black's pet project, which briefly seemed to have the attention of the MacDonald Tories, was to pave over the south end railway cut to allow trucks to use it, because, you know, who uses trains any more.
(3) The third solution, which makes the most sense (in my view), is to build a marshaling facility outside the city core and transport containers and other cargo there by rail.

There is nothing revolutionary about the latter option: major port cities have had terminal and transfer railways for years. Black's option, on the other hand, flies in the face of the practice in cities like LA, Kansas City, and others, who have spent billions in recent years to achieve what Halifax did in 1918: a completely grade separated railway.

Since it seems highly doubtful a third crossing will be built anytime soon, it seems to me the last option is our best hope of removing most heavy trucks from the core.

PS: Here's a sidebar of note: I'm trying to imagine the scenic roundabouts, proposed for the Cogswell lands redevelopment, as a thoroughfare for the volume of truck traffic now carried on Hollis Street.

Cogswell lands concept video

PPS: I note that the concrete abutment on the utility pole at the SW corner of Hollis and Sackville Street is now being enlarged for the second time in a year because heavy trucks trying to negotiate the turn onto Hollis in front of the Maple construction continue to strike the electrical junction box at the base of the pole.

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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 2:14 PM
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Three main solutions have been floated to solve the truck traffic problem downtown...not, of course, including the status quo solution, which is to watch Halifax's importance as a port slowly erode to the point where no more containers land here.

(1) The most expensive of the three is to build a third harbour crossing, tunnel or bridge, to connect the south end to highway 111.
(2) Bill Black's pet project, which briefly seemed to have the attention of the MacDonald Tories, was to pave over the south end railway cut to allow trucks to use it, because, you know, who uses trains any more.
(3) The third solution, which makes the most sense (in my view), is to build a marshaling facility outside the city core and transport containers and other cargo there by rail.

There is nothing revolutionary about the latter option: major port cities have had terminal and transfer railways for years. Black's option, on the other hand, flies in the face of the practice in cities like LA, Kansas City, and others, who have spent billions in recent years to achieve what Halifax did in 1918: a completely grade separated railway.

Since it seems highly doubtful a third crossing will be built anytime soon, it seems to me the second option is our best hope of removing most heavy trucks from the core.

PS: Here's a sidebar of note: I'm trying to imagine the scenic roundabouts, proposed for the Cogswell lands redevelopment, as a thoroughfare for the volume of truck traffic now carried on Hollis Street.

Cogswell lands concept video

PPS: I note that the concrete abutment on the utility pole at the SW corner of Hollis and Sackville Street is now being enlarged for the second time in a year because heavy trucks trying to negotiate the turn onto Hollis in front of the Maple construction continue to strike the electrical junction box at the base of the pole.
Great post. Option 3 is the only one that really makes sense. I can imagine the complaints from the south end residents about the noise and exhaust from the trucks cutting through their neighborhood.

Even more, just from an efficiency/environmental standpoint, if the container trucks never had to come into the core of the city it would be much better for everybody involved.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 5:00 PM
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Great post. Option 3 is the only one that really makes sense. I can imagine the complaints from the south end residents about the noise and exhaust from the trucks cutting through their neighborhood.
I don't have time to find any related materials right now but it was definitely discussed as a real project at one point. I think the idea was to build something adjacent to the rail line around the Sackville-Windsor Junction stretch. Not sure why the proposal died.

I agree that (3) seems like the best option. Part of that plan could be to restore the second set of tracks running through the city.
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I think I've said on this forum before... my dream would be to have the port moved to the former oil refinery lands. Immediate access to the highway; rail connections on site; free up prime peninsular land; entomb the brownfield site that is the refinery lands. No idea what such a move would cost though.

EDIT: Sorry, just realized this is the Maple thread. Probably getting a little off-topic...
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 5:09 PM
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I think I've said on this forum before... my dream would be to have the port moved to the former oil refinery lands. Immediate access to the highway; rail connections on site; free up prime peninsular land; entomb the brownfield site that is the refinery lands. No idea what such a move would cost though.

EDIT: Sorry, just realized this is the Maple thread. Probably getting a little off-topic...
But a great suggestion. Imagine the development opportunities on the waterfront right beside Point Pleasant Park.
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But a great suggestion. Imagine the development opportunities on the waterfront right beside Point Pleasant Park.
Conceptual plans have existed for about 20 years. I have seen them. Marina, townhouses, apartments. Our own Marina Del Rey, at least for a couple of months of the year.
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This one has really picked up now that they have cleared the podium levels and should rise quickly.

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This one has really picked up now that they have cleared the podium levels and should rise quickly.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/2397ed98bf4b7cb6bf51c2cb17212e9f/tumblr_o1zplp0SIy1sk8kjeo5_1280.jpg
I have also noticed how quickly the floor levels are going up from the webcam; it seems like at least a floor a week. At this rate they should be topped out by early June or even sooner.
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The jacking equipment for the crane was delivered to the site today. Looks like it will be getting a boost soon.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2016, 8:14 PM
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Tumblr is finally working again.

The crane jumped up a few stories today and additional cladding has been added on the Eastern side of the podium.







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Thanks Jonovision. Two big thumbs up for these pictures

I regularly check the webcam to follow the progress of the Maple but the cladding isn't visible yet in the webcam perspective.
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Thanks for all the updates. The weather looks great!

I like the way this building meets the street.
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from the Metro Park this afternoon

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Thanks to all for the recent updates... it makes keeping up from a distance alot easier.
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This is going to be huge from the waterfront.





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Thanks for taking these photos. The view up Sackville Street is an enormous improvement over what it used to look like. Now something just needs to be built on the parking lots above and below Maple.
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Thanks for taking these photos. The view up Sackville Street is an enormous improvement over what it used to look like. Now something just needs to be built on the parking lots above and below Maple.
I wonder if Southwest will ultimately just buy up those lots from United Gulf or whatever they're called.

Smart to do so, as he can control what sort of residential gets built there to accommodate a greater range of tenants/businesses among the different developments.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2016, 7:42 PM
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Looks like they've raised the crane up a bit higher, but it is still shorter than I expected the full height of the building to be. I count 22 floors from the Hollis Street side in the renderings, including taller than average ground floor and penthouse levels (or maybe one or both of those actually contain two levels; I think the bottom part of the podium may have a mezzanine level). The crane looks to be significantly shorter than the Maritime Centre and about twice the height of the current construction. On the webcam it looks like they're working on the 9th floor or so.

They've gone up by about 5 floors during the past 2 months or so. I'm guessing the building will be topped out sometime in the summer.
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