California High Speed Rail Thread

[ardecila]

Originally Posted by TowerDude

If the Burbank CAHSR station is underneath the Burbank Airport does that mean that the security to enter the train station will be heightened?

I remember going to the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center Smithsonian Museum on the Dulles Airport grounds and because it was inside the airport perimeter the security to enter the museum was a lot higher than it was to go to other Smithsonian museums on the Mall.

Wonder if it will be the same for the Burbank station.

I believe all CAHSR stations will have baggage screening similar to Brightline or the AVE system in Spain. Similar to airport security pre-9/11, so not crazy. If you don't have bags you just walk thru, no undressing or shoes BS.

The Burbank HSR station, under the current plan, will be across the street from the NEW Burbank terminal north of the airfield. So you exit the terminal, cross the drop-off road, walk into the HSR station, and descend down to the train platforms. Maybe there will be a skybridge or underground corridor, the plans are not developed yet.

Weirdly Burbank preserved space for the new airport terminal, but allowed a bunch of warehouses to get built where the HSR station will go. So those brand-new warehouses will need to be seized and torn down. I'm sure the warehouse owner will get a big fat payout from CHSRA...

[Busy Bee]

Link Union Station Draft Environmental Impact Report June 2024

https://www.linkunionstation.com/vir...act_Report.pdf

[veep]

Man I get way too excited when the government uploads a PDF.

[Busy Bee]

Nothing to be ashamed of, we all suffer from it. You're among friends.

[hughfb3]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Link Union Station Draft Environmental Impact Report June 2024

https://www.linkunionstation.com/vir...act_Report.pdf

Whew!!! Looks like even with the phased approach, they will still build the full viaduct across the 101 and for later phases will build out the rest of the tracks.

1626 pages though… that’s way more than the Sepulveda pass transit corridor documents… the bureaucracy of it all.

[mattropolis]

1626 pages! I only noticed that after I downloaded it. It's too long to go through! hope it's a good plan. Now build the damn thing!

[Busy Bee]

Those "This page intentionally left blank" really add up.

[jmecklenborg]

Originally Posted by ardecila

Weirdly Burbank preserved space for the new airport terminal, but allowed a bunch of warehouses to get built where the HSR station will go. So those brand-new warehouses will need to be seized and torn down. I'm sure the warehouse owner will get a big fat payout from CHSRA...

I work for a company whose building is one mile from the end of a runway and outside the airport access road but nevertheless on airport land (and the airport might have even built our building on spec). I was told that we aren't allowed to modify the exterior of the building in any way without airport approval. This includes needing approval to buy benches for people to sit on for breaks...so people just sit on the curb or sit in their cars.

So the point of my post is that airports allowing construction where future things are planned isn't unusual and in fact seems like a business model for our ostensibly non-profit airports.

[numble]

Originally Posted by hughfb3

Whew!!! Looks like even with the phased approach, they will still build the full viaduct across the 101 and for later phases will build out the rest of the tracks.

1626 pages though… that’s way more than the Sepulveda pass transit corridor documents… the bureaucracy of it all.

For apparently procedural reasons, they did not include their value engineering plans in the Draft EIS/Supplemental EIR. There is no draft EIR for the Sepulveda Transit Corridor yet.

[202_Cyclist]

Originally Posted by ardecila

I believe all CAHSR stations will have baggage screening similar to Brightline or the AVE system in Spain. Similar to airport security pre-9/11, so not crazy. If you don't have bags you just walk thru, no undressing or shoes BS.

The Burbank HSR station, under the current plan, will be across the street from the NEW Burbank terminal north of the airfield. So you exit the terminal, cross the drop-off road, walk into the HSR station, and descend down to the train platforms. Maybe there will be a skybridge or underground corridor, the plans are not developed yet.

Weirdly Burbank preserved space for the new airport terminal, but allowed a bunch of warehouses to get built where the HSR station will go. So those brand-new warehouses will need to be seized and torn down. I'm sure the warehouse owner will get a big fat payout from CHSRA...

Airports try to maximize their revenue from sources other than landing fees, so as to keep the fees they charge the airlines serving the airport low and make the airports more competitive with surrounding airports. This is especially true with an airport like Burbank that has a sizable Low Cost Carrier (LCC) presence, with Southwest and Avelo having a significant number of flights at the airport. To maximize non-aeronautical revenue, the airport sponsor will look to other sources of revenue (such as development).

At the same time, there are several grant restrictions with federal Airport Improvement Program (AIP) funding, including compatible land-use. This includes ensuring there are no vertical obstructions that could pose a hazard to aircraft next to the airport and restricting noise-sensitive uses adjacent to the airport. If an airport sponsor violates these grant restrictions, they may have to return the federal funding.

21. Compatible Land Use.
"It will take appropriate action, to the extent reasonable, including the adoption of zoning laws, to restrict the use of land adjacent to or in the immediate vicinity of the airport to activities and purposes compatible with normal airport operations, including landing and takeoff of aircraft. In addition, if the project is for noise compatibility program implementation, it will not cause or permit any change in land use, within its jurisdiction, that will reduce its compatibility, with respect to the airport, of the noise compatibility program measures upon which Federal funds have been
expended."

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/fi...rs-2022-05.pdf