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Old Posted Dec 18, 2008, 4:43 PM
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2010 Mayoral Election

So who do you think will run for Mayor of Hamilton in 2010?

Mayor Fred
Bob Bratina
Brad Clark
Mark Chamberlain
Sheila Copps
Maria Bountrogianni
Larry Di Ianni
Terry Whitehead
Lloyd Ferguson
Brian McHattie
Reverend Brother Michael Baldasaro

Also what do you think of Mayor Fred's performance halfway through his mandate?
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Mayor Fred has the right idea's but lacks the testicular fortitude to get the job done. Council has been awful in his term.

Isn't Chris Ecklund rumoured to be running?
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Mayor Fred has the right idea's but lacks the testicular fortitude to get the job done. Council has been awful in his term.

Isn't Chris Ecklund rumoured to be running?
That's what I heard previously, and he and Di Ianni are close so I'm guessing if one runs, the other doesn't.
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Perhaps the real emphasis should not be on changing who is Mayor. It seems to me that anyone who is a little forward thinking gets shouted down by the current council without real debate on what the public may or may not want.

Take the public's desire to have limestone rather than totally abandoning stone on City Hall. That should have provoked more debate, but didn't.

Take the suggestion of keeping staff in their current location and finding an alternative use for the current City Hall. That idea should have gotten more consideration than it did. No one seems to have considered buying the Mall, staying there, but continuing with the reno at City Hall because it's mostly promised and would cost to back out of and then finding an alternative use for the building and saving money by not moving back there and recouping money over time, possibly from the alternative use for City Hall.

So, to my point, the next council election emphasis should be upon having people campaign against the group of councillors who are entrenched in old ideas and thinking patterns and have consistently opposed the current Mayor and who may oppose any Mayor who's suggestions for a future direction don't fit in with their views. A reduction of bias.

As I understood it, you elected someone to put forward the opinions of the people and take these into consideration, not merely to set their own agendas. Ugh, have to stop now, having Gordon Brown rage and no body elected the bugger.
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I'd venture that the city hall recladding issue didn't even get on most peoples' radar. The majority of people living in the suburbs on the mountain care more about the inconvenience of a couple potholes in the road over a building that represents the entire city.
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I would be suprised to see DiIanni return to municipal politics.
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I've complained about Mayor Fred's leadership skills for a long time now. More evidence is his latest move to let councilors chair the Committee of the Whole. He is basically demoting himself. Another classic example where Mayor Fred lacks leadership was when not one councilor would second his motion to create a pilot project on natural landscape for the Linc and Red Hill.

For me I want someone outside of council to run for Mayor, we need to start fresh and Mark Chamberlain would be great in my opinion.
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As for Mayor Fred's performance, this goes back to the strong mayor, weak mayor debate we had earlier in the year.

Fred Eisenberger certainly hasn't been as effective as Larry Di Ianni was at achieving his policy objectives, but Di Ianni's successes had a lot to do with convincing a majority of councillors to support the status quo policies they already supported.

Eisenberger, by contrast, has been trying to move council out of their policy comfort zone with such 'radical' ideas as pedestrianizing Gore Park, approving a light rail transit network, intensifying the built area and limiting greenfield development, banning pesticides, cutting down garbage collection, reducing the size of the "airport employment growth district" development (to meet Provincial guidelines, no less), and so on. It's not surprising he's running into sharper opposition on many of these issues.

Relative to his agenda, he has achieved less; but absolutely in terms of driving change, he has achieved more.

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Former Alderman/Councillor (Ward 8) Don Ross says he will most likely run this time.
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Think Sheila Copps will ever run for Mayor?

In the last election she said she couldn't run for Mayor because of the pending lawsuit from the City regarding the Red Hill expressway.
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Think Sheila Copps will ever run for Mayor?

In the last election she said she couldn't run for Mayor because of the pending lawsuit from the City regarding the Red Hill expressway.
I'm putting my money on Sheila returning to federal politics. I predict seat redistribution will see Hamilton Centre split into two ridings east/west, effectively restoring the old Hamilton East riding. Hamilton West will be the remainder of the old Hamilton Centre riding (west mountain), plus Westdale, and Dundas. Sheila will run in one of these, likely Hamilton East.
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I'm putting my money on Sheila returning to federal politics. I predict seat redistribution will see Hamilton Centre split into two ridings east/west, effectively restoring the old Hamilton East riding. Hamilton West will be the remainder of the old Hamilton Centre riding (west mountain), plus Westdale, and Dundas. Sheila will run in one of these, likely Hamilton East.
Copps: been there, done that

April 23, 2009
Daniel Nolan
The Hamilton Spectator
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/553217

The Liberal party is courting Sheila Copps to run in the next federal election.

Michael Ignatieff's chief of staff broached the subject with her 10 days ago over lunch in Ottawa. Paul Zed is the most powerful of many Liberal colleagues who have contacted the former Hamilton East MP about running again for the party she represented in the House of Commons for two decades.

The former deputy prime minister has spurned all advances, but told The Spectator that if she ever did run again "it would be in my hometown and nowhere else."

Copps, 56, was ousted from the party in 2004 after a divisive nomination battle with former cabinet minister Tony Valeri. The party has since made its peace with her, and Zed, a former MP, was one of the organizers of a tribute to Copps at the King Edward Hotel in Toronto in 2007.

Copps said she appreciates the calls but insisted she was done with politics and is enjoying life with her husband Austin and their families.

"If I came down, I don't think it would be the same," she said. "When a door closes, a window opens. I've turned the page and I'm enjoying life."

She writes for The Hill Times, a weekly that covers federal politics, appears as a guest on CTV's political show Power Play and is working on turning a "great Hamilton" historical story into a TV movie.

Copps said the approach by Zed never got beyond talking. "I told him I was not interested in running in the election, but it was nice to have lunch with him," she said. "He was just broaching the subject. We didn't get into details."

She said they did not talk about when the Liberals aim to bring down the minority Conservative government, but said she expects an election "earlier than later. They're getting organized."

Copps said she does not expect the Liberals to give up trying to recruit her. "When you're in politics, you never give up."

The Liberals once held every seat between Oakville and Niagara Falls prior to the 2004 election.

Copps never lost a federal election and defeated two challenges from NDP candidate Wayne Marston. He has been MP for Hamilton East-Stoney Creek since 2006.

Marston said yesterday he doesn't foresee Copps returning to politics, but said he's not worried.

"If she were to run against me, I would do the same thing as any other candidate," he said. "I would present the work I have been doing, get on with the election and let the people decide."
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She writes for The Hill Times, a weekly that covers federal politics, appears as a guest on CTV's political show Power Play and is working on turning a "great Hamilton" historical story into a TV movie.
hey now!

this peeked my interest.
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Eisenberger asleep at the festival switch

May 01, 2009
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It's up to city investigators to determine whether the Festival of Friends flap involves a serious case of graft, a moonlighting employee, or perhaps some kind of spectacular misunderstanding.

But in the meantime, Mayor Fred Eisenberger needs to have his feet held to the fire for the way he handled the allegation that a city staffer improperly accepted money.

At the very least, Eisenberger was slow off the mark and lackadaisical.

Perhaps even worse, he now appears to be indulging in whitewashing and blameshifting.

Eisenberger claims that he took two steps last September when festival manager Loren Lieberman suggested during a private meeting that a city staffer had improperly accepted payment for some work.

First, he offered Lieberman the opportunity to take his allegation to the city manager, an offer reportedly declined.

Second, Eisenberger says he pro-actively raised the matter with then acting city manger Joe Rinaldo.

"I shared with him (Rinaldo) what Loren had shared with me," Eisenberger says.

Problem is, the now retired Rinaldo doesn't recall Eisenberger ever bringing the matter to his attention.

He says the only festival issue the mayor mentioned concerned city grants.

"I know there was an issue in terms of the flow of the grants ... but that was the only issue I ever dealt with on that."

Rinaldo says if the allegation had been raised, he would have taken it seriously and immediately launched an investigation.

Yes, that's one person's word against another's.

But the balance of credibility shifts heavily against Eisenberger when he makes the same claim about informing new city manager Chris Murray and gets the same response.

Eisenberger says he told Murray about Lieberman's assertions a couple of weeks back, though he's not sure that Murray "picked up" on what he was saying.

"I'm not so sure he got the full picture at that point in time or understood the full picture," Eisenberger says.

According to Murray, there was no partial or full picture to get.

He neither recalls Eisenberger raising the issue at their April 20 meeting nor is it reflected in his notes.

If it had been raised, Murray says he would have noted it and taken follow-up action by contacting the city's legal and human resources departments.

"It would be one of those things that would be significant enough that I would think I would react to."

Murray says he first heard of the allegation when Lieberman dropped the bomb at Wednesday's committee meeting.

Frankly, it's hard to believe that two city managers can suffer from memory lapse over the same issue. But the mayor stands by his assertion that he told them.

"I'm 100 per cent confident that I did that," Eisenberger says.

For Eisenberger to suggest they were informed but took no action amounts to a broadside against their professionalism.

But it also deflects attention from the mayor's own responsibility.

If you accept his account, where was his follow-up?

He is, after all, the city's chief magistrate. Why did the matter simply fall off his radar for months?

To be fair, Eisenberger says when Lieberman first made the accusation, it was delivered cryptically and without details.

Eisenberger also notes that "folks say lots of things on many occasions" to him.

In other words, unsubstantiated allegations are as loose as small change in this town.

That's true enough. But Eisenberger also acknowledges he was troubled from the get-go and wanted to get to the bottom of it.

So why did nothing happen for eight long months?

That question may dog Eisenberger long after the case itself is put to bed.
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2008, 10:06 PM
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I like scrappy politicans like Munro, Agostino, Christopherson and Copps. I respect Copps and I'd love to see her back in politics, she was pushed out of politics too early in my opinion.

I'm betting if politics is compeltely out of her life she might be Hamilton's rep for the 2015 Pan Am Games. She's a big supporter for International Games for Hamilton, Road World Cycling, 2010 and 2014 Commonwealth Games.
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I'm with you on that. They represent the best of Hamilton politics. Unpretentious, but fiercely proud of their city. Not like the crop of bloodless squelchers currently dominating our council. Especially Sheila. Hope we haven't seen the last of her.
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I would love to see someone like Bratina take a shot at the office, mostly because I think we need someone Hamiltonians can respect in the Mayor's chair...

Mayor Fred is weak simply because he needs practice, and doesn't warrant much respect from the city as a whole.

Then again, not many councillors do as can be seen by our voter turn-out in 2006. But one name that many people bring up when discussing councillors they can respect is Bratina.
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What about Terry Cooke?

There's a lot that I agree with him on. He has the leadership skills too.
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While Brattina has been a great councillor, I would need to see examples of consensus-building among his peers in order to consider him for the mayor's seat. That is what is most needed in this position, and frankly, on the whole none of Hamilton's councillors have displayed much in the way of consensus-building skills.
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An election-related item from today's Star:

Firms funding '905' campaigns
Heavy reliance on developers and other companies erodes democracy, York U. political scientist argues

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Election campaigns in Toronto's satellite municipalities are overwhelmingly bankrolled by corporate money, most of it from the same developers responsible for cascading sprawl in the region, new research suggests.

No one thinks city councillors can be bought by a developer's $750 campaign contribution, the maximum allowed per donor under the Municipal Elections Act.

But Robert MacDermid, an associate professor of political science at York University who is publishing a paper on the subject today, says the sheer amount of cash flowing from developers to incumbents – as opposed to coming from citizens who believe in a candidate's platform – erodes the concept of democratic representation.

In the 905 in 2006, election winners got 54.3 per cent of their funding from developers, losers 35 per cent. In Toronto, the numbers are 12 per cent and 4 per cent.

Since there are no rules restricting the number of candidates to whom corporations can donate, they often do so multiple times. MacDermid contends all that money, combined with shortcomings in the Ontario Municipal Elections Act, puts new candidates at a disadvantage, especially those who oppose developers' interests. "It reduces the choice that citizens actually have," he says. "The difficulty with (a candidate) opposing development is that it's hard to find enough money."
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