1047 Richmond Rd | 112+121m | 36+38f | Site Prep

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by JHikka

Yeah, i'll take that. Big TOD. Would be great if it eventually had underground access to New Orchard but baby steps, I guess. If it comes out looking anything like the renderings it'll be fine.

But a tunnel would only connect to the westbound platform. Not sure it would be worth it. Pedestrian links make more sense if the connect to a concourse above the platform level, which requires deeper station (like Downtown or St. Laurent, as opposed to the Byron tunnel or Algonquin).

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

But a tunnel would only connect to the westbound platform. Not sure it would be worth it.

A tunnel could also go under tracks to connect to the eastbound platform, unless there's some geological or safety reasoning why this isn't possible. At worst then it only services westbound.

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Pedestrian links make more sense if the connect to a concourse above the platform level, which requires deeper station (like Downtown or St. Laurent, as opposed to the Byron tunnel or Algonquin).

So these stations aren't really built for better potential future connectivity?

[Harley613]

The architecture firm IBI Group designed three underground stations for the Confederation Line and are a well established international firm with projects all over the world. This is so promising for our city. Hopefully the developers see the potential to move away from RLA's near monopoly on our skyline.

https://www.ibigroup.com/projects/

[Harley613]

The Developer, Fengate Asset Management, seems to be mostly Toronto based and I think this might be the largest project they have ever taken on. Also very promising.
https://fengateproperties.com/

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by JHikka

A tunnel could also go under tracks to connect to the eastbound platform, unless there's some geological or safety reasoning why this isn't possible. At worst then it only services westbound.

They could, but I'm not sure it would be worth the investment.

So these stations aren't really built for better potential future connectivity?

Algonquin will be connected via an overhead walkway to the south entrance, but I don't believe they future-proofed a connection underground.

As for Sherbourne and New Orchard, no. Sherbourne could have had it been built where it was proposed across the street where the strip mall used to be, but the move to the park killed any possibility.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Harley613

The Developer, Fengate Asset Management, seems to be mostly Toronto based and I think this might be the largest project they have ever taken on. Also very promising.
https://fengateproperties.com/

They also designed the M+M towers proposed on Albert.

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

They also designed the M+M towers proposed on Albert.

Amazing! I hope Roderick Lahey is losing sleep over this intrusion on his mediocrity

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by JHikka

A tunnel could also go under tracks to connect to the eastbound platform, unless there's some geological or safety reasoning why this isn't possible. At worst then it only services westbound.

A pedestrian overpass would probably be easier. Don't forget there are also utility services under Richmond that they would need to work around.

Originally Posted by JHikka

So these stations aren't really built for better potential future connectivity?

They are built to be affordable. Digging a deeper trench would increase costs significantly.

[antresenect]

Originally Posted by JHikka

A tunnel could also go under tracks to connect to the eastbound platform, unless there's some geological or safety reasoning why this isn't possible. At worst then it only services westbound.

For new orchard station, the platform is in the middle and the tracks are on the sides.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by antresenect

For new orchard station, the platform is in the middle and the tracks are on the sides.

Right, I forgot they had centre platforms. Kind of disappointed in myself.




https://otrain.railfans.ca/line-1-stations/new-orchard

[J.OT13]

One thing I don't like about the project is the huge park in the corner. I would prefer if the street frontage and retail would wrap around that corner., with maybe a small plaza with a patio and fountain Park space would be better as a strip on the eastern end of the lot.

[SL123]

does any one know what the Max height currently is on that lot?

[skylerottawa]

Love the renderings. Not sure what the heigh restrictions are in the area but I don't see why they would be reduced. This is far from the CBD and there are some taller buildings in the Westboro area.

[MountainView]

Originally Posted by SL123

does any one know what the Max height currently is on that lot?

If I understand the Planning Rationale document correctly (and I honestly might not be), the max building height is currently 25 m

The red "No" is from a column titled: Compliance

Table headings:
Provision | Required | Provided | Compliance

[bartlebooth]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

One thing I don't like about the project is the huge park in the corner. I would prefer if the street frontage and retail would wrap around that corner., with maybe a small plaza with a patio and fountain Park space would be better as a strip on the eastern end of the lot.

I dislike that as well. I'm not sure where the entry to the LRT station will be but this park has the potential to may make the route to retail even further from the station entrance which is too bad. There are a bunch of if's in that sentence but having the building define the corner would have been preferred.

If I'm being honest, this proposal seems very lifeless and unappealing to me. Happy to have density beside rapid transit but otherwise not very exciting.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by bartlebooth

If I'm being honest, this proposal seems very lifeless and unappealing to me. Happy to have density beside rapid transit but otherwise not very exciting.

I agree. It will look great from a far as part of the riverfront skyline, but it won't be great at street level. This is a very "downtown" looking proposal, not a residential main street.

Redistributing the towers, working on the podium to make it more "main street", maybe add some masonry at the podium level.

[DTcrawler]

I'm sure there are things I could say I dislike about this proposal (lack of height variation, street interaction with Richmond) but all things considered, I'll take it as it. The predominantly glass design will balance out all the concrete monoliths in the area, and the height will also provide some great density on a TOD site. All in all, very nice.

[Harley613]

I have been updating the wiki for 'List of Tallest Building in Ottawa-Gatineau' for years. It's never looked so spicy!

Capture by harley613, on Flickr

[skylerottawa]

Originally Posted by Harley613

I have been updating the wiki for 'List of Tallest Building in Ottawa-Gatineau' for years. It's never looked so spicy!

Capture by harley613, on Flickr

Love it Harley

[McDonald's Racoon]

I'm in love. Although I do agree the park seems a little awkward at the moment but I'm sure the design will be revised into the ground before anything happens... Good start though!