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Old Posted Oct 15, 2023, 5:29 AM
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Thats incredible, not only this development but the Pentagon which is still at the top. What an amazing symbol of power.



Tokyo Torch is like merging two; 270 Park Aves together to get the girth and still have extra floor space available.

The sky park is amazing, can see Mt. Fugi up there..



actually this brand new office bldg in india recently surpassed the pentagon as largest office bldg. its the surat diamond bourse for the diamond business. apparantly 90% of diamonds are cut in surat, so they felt they needed this sucker:



The world’s new largest office building is bigger than the Pentagon

By Oscar Holland, CNN
Updated 8:21 AM EDT, Tue July 18, 2023



The newly-opened Surat Diamond Bourse is billed as a “one-stop destination” for over 65,000 diamond professionals, including cutters, polishers and traders. Featuring a succession of nine rectangular structures spilling out from — and interconnected via — a central “spine,” the sprawling 15-story complex has been built across more than 35 acres of land.

The trading center’s architects say it comprises over 7.1 million square feet of floor space, which would mean it has surpassed the Pentagon as the world’s largest office building.


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https://www.cnn.com/style/india-largest-office-building-surat-diamond-bourse/index.html





The structure's spine flares out at each end to funnel breeze through the building.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2023, 8:31 PM
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God, Tokyo buildings are so fucking fat. That doesn't look at all like 1,300 ft.

Morbidly obese tower.
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I'm sorry, but this looks like a Cyborg Pirate Transformer sort of cartoon character!

It is hard to comprehend how they will make such wide floors into appealing spaces. I can't help think that the ceilings are going to have to be very high for it

not to feel like a parking garage when standing near the center of the building.

I do like the concept of the garden under the pirate hat.
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God, Tokyo buildings are so fucking fat. That doesn't look at all like 1,300 ft.

Morbidly obese tower.
Tokyo builds cities within towers. Even the average mid-rise buildings have 'storefront' businesses that would be at street level in most other cities... on every level of the building. The buildings may be fat, but they think very vertically there, and it's quite cool to behold.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2023, 1:23 AM
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its always fun when the youths constantly discover tokyo likes the fat buildings for good reasons.
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I’m guessing the demand is there. Last I checked, Tokyo’s GDP was larger than NYC’s and London’s combined. I consider it the most spectacular city in the world.
That is 100% NOT true.
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That is 100% NOT true.
Sorry, meant larger than NYC and London. Anything else “100% NOT true” ?
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Sorry, meant larger than NYC and London. Anything else “100% NOT true” ?
Tokyo & NYC are in their own league ahead of the rest of the pack in terms of GDP, Los Angeles comes in third, London is a bit down.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP

GDP of the ten largest metropolitan economies in the OECD, 2001–2020
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Torch Tower, to be Japan’s Tallest Building at 385m

Another model view of this sumo wrestler...



https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/society/general-news/20230927-139467/
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The 62-story, 385-meter-high building is scheduled to be completed by the end of March 2028, and it will surpass the Abeno Harukasu building in Osaka, which is 300 meters tall, and the Azabudai Hills Mori JP Tower in Tokyo’s Minato Ward at 330 meters, which opened in November.
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Post Hitachi Receives an Order for 173 Elevators

Hitachi Receives an Order for 173 Elevators, Escalators and
Related Systems for Torch Tower, the Highest Building in Japan

Hitachi Group's Largest Order for Elevators and Escalators in Japan
https://www.hitachi.com/New/cnews/month/2024/06/240612.html



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Tokyo, June 12, 2024 – Hitachi, Ltd. (TSE:6501, hereafter Hitachi) and Hitachi Building Systems Co., Ltd. (hereafter Hitachi Building Systems) today announced that they have received an order for 173 elevators and escalators for Torch Tower, the highest building in Japan with a height of approximately 390 m above ground level, located in the TOKYO TORCH district in front of Tokyo Station's Nihombashi Exit.

Hitachi and Hitachi Building Systems will also provide FIBEE destination floor reservation system to streamline elevator allocation, and FI-700 elevator management system that ensure efficient elevator operations. They will also provide a function enabling robots to use elevators. By combining elevators and escalators with digital solutions, they will contribute to comfortable moving and efficient building operations.

The order is the largest-ever one for elevators and escalators for the Hitachi Group to receive in Japan. The two escalators connecting the 62nd floor with the rooftop observation deck are Japan's highest-located* outdoor escalators.
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Good lord this building is beefy! One hundred and seventy elevators?!?! That's wild
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Good lord this building is beefy! One hundred and seventy elevators?!?! That's wild
It's the sumo wrestler of skyscrapers.. the upper garden will be orientated towards Mount Fuji
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Any recent photo of this building's construction?
Is there an updated website to follow the construction of such an important project?
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Any recent photo of this building's construction?
Is there an updated website to follow the construction of such an important project?
There's that YouTube channel (Skyscraper Construction) you've posted about on the other thread. The person who runs the channel updates it often (just keep in mind the videos are uploaded a few weeks after being shot).

There are also several japanese construction blogs and they sometimes post about Torch Tower, like bluestyle.livedoor.biz.

Photographed from the deck of Tokiwabashi Tower on January 26, 2025 (the taller building in the back is Otemachi Tower):

source: bluestyle.livedoor.biz
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Good lord this building is beefy! One hundred and seventy elevators?!?! That's wild
It won't have 170 elevators (or 173 as mentioned above). It will have 117 elevators, as reported by bluestyle.livedoor.biz and by Hitachi (official source). 173 refers to the combined number of elevators and escalators (117 + 56).

Btw, does anyone know if there are skyscrapers with more elevators? I have seen some that have around 100, but I don't think I've ever seen this many
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I have difficulty comprehending the massiveness of this building. It looks chunky because the proportions are so unusual. It is hard to understand that

this will only be about two hundred or so feet shorter than the Sears (Willis) tower. My brain thinks of it as shorter because I am sort of

unconsciously thinking of it based on other supertalls' proportions and there really isn't another which compares in wideness from bottom to top.

I think Sears is about 225 feet long on each side at street level.

How long is each side of this building going to be at street level?

I'm guessing it might be close to 400 feet wide.
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I have difficulty comprehending the massiveness of this building. It looks chunky because the proportions are so unusual. It is hard to understand that

this will only be about two hundred or so feet shorter than the Sears (Willis) tower.
They love bulky buildings with big floor areas in Tokyo . I think developers just want to maximize square footage, which probably means they'll have more space to rent out/sell (and more ¥¥¥ coming into their pockets). I've also heard that buildings with girthier floor plates tend to do better during earthquakes (I don't know how true this is, so take it with a grain of salt). There are also height restrictions due to Haneda Airport and other factors. I think all of these contribute to the bulkiness of skyscrapers over there.

On a side note, some residential highrises in Tokyo actually don't have as much floor area as it looks on the outside, as they sometimes are hollow in the middle (sorry, idk how to explain this in better words, but you can see it in google maps). Office buildings are usually the massive ones by area (well, I guess this applies to other cities as well, like in NY the largest towers are office or mixed-use, while the slender residentials are very tall but have rather small floor areas).

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My brain thinks of it as shorter because I am sort of

unconsciously thinking of it based on other supertalls' proportions and there really isn't another which compares in wideness from bottom to top.
The Azabudai Hills Mori JP Tower is quite big too, so that's probably the closest one you can compare to Torch Tower, but it's not as tall and not as girthy.


source: Wikipedia / Wikimedia Commons

The videos below show 3D models of the tallest japanese buildings (built, U/C, and proposed) in american cities like NYC, Chicago, LA, etc. (idk if the proportions are 100% accurate, but it'll give you an idea of how they would look in american skylines):
Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTIiI8idyOU
LA, San Francisco, Seattle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjVJIIw_dk
Older video showing NYC and non-US cities like London, Toronto, Frankfurt, etc.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuIgA5d748&list=PLA-feC8PZjtw6aYUxuVAuwquZya4ShMMf

Skyscrapers shown in the videos as 3D models:
1. https://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=106870
2. https://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=146804
3. https://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=112894
4. https://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=67963 (this one is from Osaka, not Tokyo)
5. https://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=146805

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I think Sears is about 225 feet long on each side at street level.

How long is each side of this building going to be at street level?

I'm guessing it might be close to 400 feet wide.
Regarding the Torch Tower's proportions, I don't think it will be that long horizontally. Each side will probably be between 90 m (295 ft) and 100 m (328 ft). I'm saying this based on measurements I've done on google maps (google maps images are outdated though, you can still see the old, smaller highrise that has already been demolished, those images are probably from 2022) and based on this image. 400 ft seems doable too, but it feels like it would get too close to Tokiwabashi Tower. Also, looking at its floor area of around 550,000 sqm (close to 6 million sq ft) and the floor count of 62+4, it seems to better match a size between 90 m x 90 m and 100 m x 100 m.
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I like Tokyo, but this tower is heinous.
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geez 6M sq ft is pretty burly.
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