Jericho Lands Planning Program

[svlt]

Originally Posted by rofina

Nauseating that shovels wont hit the ground for 6 years.

Also nauseating that residents who wont even be around to see this go up are fully intent on standing in its way.

Also total laugh at major support for 2 or 4 story. Yah, so in other words the residents want a bunch of SFH put up on the land.

Get a grip people, its 2020 and we are nearly a 3 million person metropolis.

Yeah, totally agree. I never understood their angle. Afraid of construction noise and disruption? Just temporary and part of life. Traffic? Eh, this is pretty central Vancouver, not the burbs or some bucolic pastoral land. Real estate values? Don't their SFHs go even higher with less availability and with better neighborhood amenities?

I've submitted my comment and encourage others in the area to do the same, it needs the support it can get here.

[Migrant_Coconut]

And don't tell me that NIMBYs actually care about the community - many will try and sue you if your ball lands on the wrong side of the fence!

[Feathered Friend]

https://syc.vancouver.ca/projects/je...ghbourhood.pdf

We have created four separate surveys relating to each Discussion Guide theme and the associated Emerging Site Planning Ideas:

Natural Systems and Open Space
https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lan...and-open-space

Connections and Mobility
https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lan...s-and-mobility

Inclusive Neighbourhood
https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lan...-neighbourhood

Sustainability and Resilience
https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lan...and-resilience

The surveys will be open from March 29, 2021 to April 25, 2021.

https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lands

Register for the virtual Design Workshops:

Space is limited and all of the workshops will require registration. Follow the links below to secure your place at one or more of the events. If you are interested in participating in multiple workshops, make sure to register for only one workshop per theme (e.g. only one of the two Natural Systems and Open Space workshops). The content in the two sessions will be the same. As space at the workshops is limited we would like to make sure that as many people as possible get an opportunity to participate.

Saturday, April 10, 2021

Kick-Off Event - 1:00 pm to 3:00 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148378176119

Monday, April 12, 2021
Natural Systems and Open Space - 1:00 pm to 3:30 pm
https://natural-systems-and-open-spa...eventbrite.ca/

Connections and Mobility - 6:00 pm to 8:30 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148394171963

Tuesday, April 13, 2021

Inclusive Neighbourhood - 1:00 pm to 3:30 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148395058615

Sustainability and Resilience - 6:00 pm to 8:30 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148397632313

Wednesday, April 14, 2021

Connections and Mobility - 1:00 pm to 3:30 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148394380587

Natural Systems and Open Space - 6:00 pm to 8:30 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148385863111

Thursday, April 15, 2021

Sustainability and Resilience - 1:00 pm to 3:30 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148397756685

Inclusive Neighbourhood - 6:00 pm to 8:30 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148397477851

Monday, April 19, 2021

Wrap-Up Event - 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/jericho-...n-148382795937

https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lands

Strongly encourage those who would like to see these lands well utilized to participate in the Inclusive Neighbourhood, as well as the Connection and Mobility events.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Good to see that the planning planning stage is over. Now we can finally move on to the planning stage.

[Coldrsx]

lolz

Exciting times.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Good to see that the planning planning stage is over. Now we can finally move on to the planning stage.

Yeah and it’s going to end up looking just like everything else that gets proposed

[Feathered Friend]

Starting October 18, we would like your feedback on these Conceptual Site Plan Options!

Phase 3 Kick-Off Event: Conceptual Site Plan Options Presentation

On Monday, October 18, we will be co-hosting the Phase 3 Kick-Off event. This online event will feature a welcome from the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and sə̓lílwətaʔɬ (Tsleil-Waututh) Cultural Liaisons, a planning process overview, and presentations of the Conceptual Site Plan Options followed by a Q&A session. The event will be an opportunity to learn about the planning process and Conceptual Site Plan Options, as well as ask the team questions about the site options.

When: Monday, October 18 (6:30PM to 8:30PM)
Where: Online using Zoom. A link to access the Kick-Off event will be sent to registered participants prior to the event.

Registration: Tickets are free; however, advanced registration is required.
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/jericho...s-178891618647

This should reveal the amount of buildings, their heights, form, and density, as well as the transportation network and greenspaces proposed for the site. From what I've heard, there's plenty of things people on this forum should find exciting, so I would suggest participating in this.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

This should reveal the amount of buildings, their heights, form, and density, as well as the transportation network and greenspaces proposed for the site. From what I've heard, there's plenty of things people on this forum should find exciting, so I would suggest participating in this.

From the community newsletter this week




https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lands

Both mention three iconic "sentinel buildings" next to the transit hub. (I can't figure out where they are referring to on the map)

[Klazu]

I doubt there is going to be anything iconic about this project. Just plain towers on top of podiums near SkyTrain station.

I hate to see extra intersections (traffic lights) on 4th Avenue and the roadway also looks narrower. They should not do such thing and any bikelane should be carved out of this vast site and not the current roadway. This project will introduce thousands more cars in the area.

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I doubt there is going to be anything iconic about this project. Just plain towers on top of podiums near SkyTrain station.

I hate to see extra intersections (traffic lights) on 4th Avenue and the roadway also looks narrower. They should not do such thing and any bikelane should be carved out of this vast site and not the current roadway. This project will introduce thousands more cars in the area.

Connections & Mobility
• Design to be Welcoming and
Inclusive
• Prioritize Walking, Rolling, and
Cycling
• Encourage Transit Use through Site
Design
• Enhance Neighbourhood
Connections
• Re-imagine West 4th Avenue
• Design the Site to be Car-Lite

As per the the "emerging ideas," which were unanimously approved by city council. So yes, W 4th Avenue will be changing, and yes, it will feel far less like a freeway.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Do I detect a stream network (and integrated with a concourse)? My compliments to the landscapers of both designs.

Originally Posted by Klazu

I doubt there is going to be anything iconic about this project. Just plain towers on top of podiums near SkyTrain station.

I hate to see extra intersections (traffic lights) on 4th Avenue and the roadway also looks narrower. They should not do such thing and any bikelane should be carved out of this vast site and not the current roadway. This project will introduce thousands more cars in the area.

It's intended to be a self-contained village - one that's on top of two major bus routes and as mentioned, a future SkyTrain line. The only places they'd absolutely need to drive to are Spanish Banks, the schools, or the golf clubs.

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Both mention three iconic "sentinel buildings" next to the transit hub. (I can't figure out where they are referring to on the map)

If I'm correct in assuming the station is the little trapezoid directly north of Crown Crescent in "Eagle," it's the three "staircases" surrounding it.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

If I'm correct in assuming the station is the little trapezoid directly north of Crown Crescent in "Eagle," it's the three "staircases" surrounding it.

In Weave maybe it's the triangular looking building in the SE corner surrounded by brown?

It looks like totem poles in the SW corner with a plaza in the Eagle proposal.

Also, the West 4th road treatment seems different in the two proposals. It keeps that central boulevard in Weave.

I think they wanted to do something with stormwater so maybe that's what's depicted?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Well in Eagle, the description says it's between the central park and the ridge, so it has to be the three staircases. As for Weave, who knows what the hell is where - definitely not voting for that one.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

W 4th Avenue will be changing, and yes, it will feel far less like a freeway.

[Feathered Friend]

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https://twitter.com/JordanRossMedia/...319265280?s=20

It's worth noting that there's a couple members of the West Point Grey Residents Association on the Jericho Lands Working Group, so the population estimates are probably reliable, though I wouldn't trust the doom and gloom parts.

[jollyburger]

Seems like this would speed up a UBC extension if anything.

They have zero control on the development, the sooner they come to that realization the more realistic their input will be.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

As per the the "emerging ideas," which were unanimously approved by city council. So yes, W 4th Avenue will be changing, and yes, it will feel far less like a freeway.

Of course it was approved by the fools at City Hall. One has to be completely delusional to think that majority of residents won't be owning a car in a complex this big. Just like the Senawk project, there will be thousands of cars navigating the same few streets that are getting narrower. Congestion will continue to increase.

I think you are being sarcastic about 4th Avenue feeling like a freeway, but unfortunately there are people in Vancouver that are blinded by their hate of cars to seriously state so. It is scary how common sense has completely left some people.

I am personally not for this project or at least it doesn't get me excited one bit, being so mundane.

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Of course it was approved by the fools at City Hall. One has to be completely delusional to think that majority of residents won't be owning a car in a complex this big. Just like the Senawk project, there will be thousands of cars navigating the same few streets that are getting narrower. Congestion will continue to increase.

I think you are being sarcastic about 4th Avenue feeling like a freeway, but unfortunately there are people in Vancouver that are blinded by their hate of cars to seriously state so. It is scary how common sense has completely left some people.

I am personally not for this project or at least it doesn't get me excited one bit, being so mundane.

While I wasn't being sarcastic, I admit freeway was a poor choice of words, though in my defense this is a web forum not a college paper. Regardless, I think it's fair to say this stretch of W 4th Ave currently provides an extremely inhospitable environment for pedestrians, and could be improved for all users.

I'm surprised at the mundane comment, given there hasn't been any building forms reveled, but each to their own. As for me, the location alone is enough to stir excitement, and considering the site layout, it's hard to imagine the architecture won't live up to it.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Presentation just finished - good news, NIMBYs got 3-0'ed.

[jollyburger]

This is close enough to the beach as well to sort of make it into a destination station as well which might help the UBC extension. Might also stick a paid lookout tower in one of the buildings

CBC article. Looks to start construction in 2025

The city is asking for public feedback on two concepts for the site, both of which would house approximately 15,000 to 18,000 people on a 10-million-square foot development. The area's boundaries are West Fourth Avenue, Highbury Street, West Eighth Avenue and Discovery Street.

The Jericho Lands are made up of 90 acres in West Point Grey — which has a current population of around 13,000 people. The land is currently home to a former garrison, several dozen homes leased to military families and to a private school.

One of the plans features a diagonal walkway through the neighbourhood with a central gathering space in the middle, while the other would focus more on north-south connectors and smaller community gathering points across the site.

Both plans also propose dozens of buildings ranging from two to 32 storeys, three taller towers, a mix of community centres, parkland, and wilderness spaces, along with the potential for a SkyTrain station if the Millennium Line is extended to the University of British Columbia. The exact mix of housing options, size and location of buildings is yet to be determined in either plan.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...215923?cmp=rss

Bunch of photos from the presentation from Peter Meiszner's Twitter:





https://twitter.com/PeterMeiszner