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Old Posted Mar 9, 2007, 12:03 PM
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Hello everyone. I drew the diagram of Tour Phare.
First of all, thanks to Metropolitan for taking my defense and excuse me for my English...
I think that Metropolitan has summarized the situation well.

I admit to having copied, initially, my first diagram. As a beginner, I didn't know if I had the right. But, as my first diagram was deleted for plagiarism, I decided to draw a second diagram for this tower. ( I can not support that this great project for la Défense doesn't have a diagram on this website )

To draw the second, I decided to take the same point of view because it is that which seemed to me most representative. But I didn't copy the rendering! I was simply inspired by it, is that prohibited?

I will try to explain how I drew the diagram;
To form the total shape of the tower, I had to print the renderings, and I traced with a pencil, the shape that I want, to work afterward on the computer (sorry for my old methods but I am a beginner on the drafting programs) here's my starting drawing with the pencil:



It is as at this time as I made an average for the height of the stages (you can see 3 mm on paper but I then scaled the drawing to 750 pixels at the beginning of my work on computer)

Then, for the details on the ground and on the top, I used photographs of the model of the building which were exposed in Paris.





I looked at returned then well, to represent with precise details the beams of the structure on my drawing. In the same way for the colours.



The software which I used is Paint, Paint.net and Paint shop pro for the illumination at the end.
For that, I asked someone in my family to help me to give more depth to the rendering through the use of lighting.




I displayed my progress on the diagram on a French forum, and Metropolitan, which had already given me some advice.

I hope that I succeeded in convincing you of my honesty. I hope to be able to see my diagram on your site again in the future.

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Old Posted Mar 9, 2007, 1:15 PM
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Thanks for explanations JBCousin.... I hope now the diagram back and for all.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2007, 9:26 PM
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JBC62: Did you trace over the rendering?

Please remember that many of us are skilled illustrators. Upon further examination and manipulation of the original rendering image in comparison with your illustrations I would still have to agree with Jonny5 that tracing is an issue here.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2007, 10:21 PM
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JBC62: Did you trace over the rendering?
Honestly, for the following lines ( in red ), yes :


This is why, I will understand if my diagram remains removed.
However, I would like to say that for a majority of parts, I entirely made the drawing.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2007, 11:10 AM
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Looking at everything JBCousin62 has said in this thread I think the drawing should allowed.
I only had the smaller scale drawings available to me when I was approving and this drawing did look very close to the original rendering you uploaded.

Mkmillenium: Calm down dude.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2007, 8:19 PM
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I am calm.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2007, 8:25 PM
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Would that Structure Diagram be back????????????????????
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2007, 6:00 PM
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It's been a week now that Mkmillenium asked his question and apparently no one answered. I would be very happy to get some news about it. Are there any discussion or not to bring it back ?

Thanks in advance for the answer, no matter which one it is.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 7:29 PM
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Hello,
My diagram of the tower is definitively deleted ?
Can somebody answer ?

Thanks.
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2007, 3:49 AM
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Hello,
My diagram of the tower is definitively deleted ?
Can somebody answer ?

Thanks.
If you want to know why your drawings were deleted, you can go to your "My Account" page, then go to your Drawings Page.


On The top there should be a link called Deleted Drawings. It's ll there. Click on your building's Name and you can see the comments why it was deleted.
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2007, 3:51 AM
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Is the opinion still the same on the drawing? It was recently resubmitted.
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2007, 8:12 PM
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Thumbs up The End!!!

Let's party. Morphosis was approved at end. I became happy. Congratulations for our efforts.

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