YEG - Edmonton Int Airport - Page 191

240glt · #**3801** Posted **May 29, 2009, 6:12 PM**

Tony ? Out to lunch ? I don't believe it.

/sarcasm

rapid_business · #**3802** Posted **May 29, 2009, 7:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by lubicon

If by 'citizens' he means 'taxpayers' then he is out to lunch. Taxpayers are not contributing anything to the airport. Revenue is generated solely by those who use the airport (airlines and passengers).

The fear they were promoting on CBC this morning was that the burden would fall on passengers as an expensive airport improvement fee.

240glt · #**3803** Posted **May 29, 2009, 7:22 PM**

^ Didn't EIA already state that the AIF would be maintained as is ?

IKAN104 · #**3804** Posted **May 29, 2009, 7:29 PM**

I'm pretty sure they recently admitted that they can no longer keep the fee low and are increasing it.

rapid_business · #**3805** Posted **May 29, 2009, 7:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jasper and one o nin

CBC Radio had a story on the EIA expansion. The point was that because officials and board members are not elected, they are not accountable to the regions citizens - or to those who use the airport. Our friend Tony Caterina was interviewed and was saying that airport authorities, including Edmonton's are spending money unnecessarily at the expense of the citizens. CBC asked for "the listeners" opinion.
The question was "what do you think of the EIA expanding?"
to answer... http://www.cbc.ca/edmontonam/contact.html#

My Comments:

"What do I think of EIA expanding?"

If the airport is experiencing the strains of rapid and unprecedented growth, there is no reason why they shouldn't expand to meet capacity and future demand. Despite airlines and other airports around the world feeling the effects of the economic crunch, Edmonton International's market and usage continued to grow. Not only was Edmonton the fastest growing airport in Canada in 2008, It also was the only Canadian airport to report growth every month over the year before.
(Found here: http://www.anna.aero/2009/02/13/edmonton-achieves-growth-in-every-month-of-2008/)

As a regular user of the International airport, and as a citizen who takes pride in our main gateway to the world, I welcome the expansion and growth of its facility to meet the growing demands of its expanding clientele.

As per the concerns of Con. Tony Caterina, please call his inflated and unfounded concern of the expansion process at the International for what they are; Nothing more then leverage and a bait and switch tactic in his fight to keep the City Centre airport open.

Jasper and one o nin · #**3806** Posted **May 29, 2009, 7:45 PM**

EdmTrekker · #**3807** Posted **May 29, 2009, 10:30 PM**

I am soooo sick of that Tony guy. He will be sorry in the debates for the during election - I will be front and centre and rip into him big time!! He is a whining sniveling little sht. Lets gather all his erroneous comments, lies and save them so we can flood the forums and debates with his sht lies and expose him.

mode · #**3808** Posted **May 30, 2009, 12:14 AM**

Changing the subject (sorry!), while checking the vacation charter flights, I noticed that the various Transat or Nolitours flights during the summer (which used to be Westjet), now seem to change daily from Canjet to Air Transat. Today I noticed a flight to the Dominican Republic as this:

30th May Edmonton to Punta Cana JAA Flight 640
6th June Punta Cana to Edmonton JAA Flight 641

Who is JAA?

Jasper and one o nin · #**3809** Posted **May 30, 2009, 5:18 AM**

enerjet

EdmTrekker · #**3810** Posted **May 30, 2009, 4:38 PM**

spotted this news release...from a Stockholm company

"Across the border in Alberta, Canada, Cavotec is to deliver a range of fuel systems to Edmonton International Airport. The equipment will be used for Alberta’s Terminal Express and South Apron Expansion programmes."

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/...s_view&newsId=20090528005562&newsLang=en

I am not familiar what this technology does. Perhaps someone can put it in simple terms.

Coldrsx · #**3811** Posted **Jun 1, 2009, 6:01 PM**

Group launches pro-Muni campaign with poll

BY GORDON KENT, EDMONTONJOURNAL.COMJUNE 1, 2009 12:02 PMBE THE FIRST TO POST A COMMENT

STORYPHOTOS ( 1 )

Children watch an airplane get ready to depart form the City Center airport from the Shell Aerocentre.
Photograph by: Candace Elliott, Edmonton Journal
EDMONTON - The Kingsway Business Association released a poll Monday indicating 74 per cent of respondents disagree with shutting down the City Centre Airport and turning it into housing.

The poll, part of the association's new "Fight for Flight" campaign to keep the facility open, also shows 75 per cent of the Edmonton residents questioned say they'd vote today to continue operating it as a general aviation airport, chairwoman Mary Anne Stanway told a news conference.

"It's a vital part of the community -- it should not be squandered, and talk about redeveloping it doesn't make sense."

The telephone poll of 415 people across Edmonton was conducted in late March and early April. Given that sample size, it is considered accurate within 4.8 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

On the question "Do you strongly agree, agree, disagree or strongly disagree that the City Centre Airport should be closed completely and turned into housing?" 19.5 per cent of respondents agreed or strongly agreed, while 74 per cent disagreed or strongly disagreed.

Another 6.5 per cent didn't know.

The last question asked "If you had an opportunity today, how would you likely vote on the airport issue?" In answer, 19.3 per cent of respondents chose "Close the airport completely and convert the land to residential uses," 74.9 per cent picked "Keep the airport operating as a general aviation airport" and 5.8 per cent didn't know.

Two reports last year indicated the city could earn almost $500 million over 15 to 20 years by ending aviation on the 217-hectare property and turning it into a community for 32,000 people featuring LRT service, commercial and office space, and expansion room for NAIT.

The airport needs about $35 million worth of upgrades by 2017 if it stays in operation, the reports said.

More information about costs, development opportunities and other details about a potential closure are due June 19, with three days of public hearings set for the end of the month.

City council is scheduled to make a final decision on the issue in July.

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© Copyright (c) The Edmonton Journal

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/Life/Group+launches+Muni+campaign/1651529/story.html

y2k_pony · #**3812** Posted **Jun 1, 2009, 6:08 PM**

^ close the damn thing and be done with it.

rapid_business · #**3813** Posted **Jun 1, 2009, 6:09 PM**

The public is by and large unaware of the how the CCA can and does opporate, and have been bombarded by unfounded fears of medivac patients, loss of connection with northern communities, etc.

The whole fight is rediculous. Would the business owners not be happier with a flood of new residents and increased land-values instead of a dead hobby airport?

Daveography · #**3814** Posted **Jun 1, 2009, 6:29 PM**

^ One would think so, but adapting to change is apparently more difficult than fighting tooth-and-nail for the status quo.

If these groups manage to convince city council to keep the airport open...

Jasper and one o nin · #**3815** Posted **Jun 1, 2009, 7:28 PM**

put anyone on the spot with a question that they are uninformed and uneducated about and see how they will answer.
That is why we have Council to make these decisions for the greater good of the community..

S_B_Russell · #**3816** Posted **Jun 2, 2009, 12:50 PM**

Somebody talking sense at the Sun? I must be high:

Edmonton doesn't need two airports
By ANDREW HANON
Last Updated: 2nd June 2009, 2:21am

Mayor Stephen Mandel is right when he says defenders of City Centre Airport need to "let go of the past and move forward."

There's no question that Blatchford Field is a proud part of Edmonton's history. The ghosts of aviation legends Wop May and Wiley Post still walk the grounds. It played a major role in the Second World War as a major stopover point on the Northwest Staging Route.

To let this rich past fade from memory would be a tragedy.

That's why we have museums and archives. But to continue the municipal airport's stranglehold on the city's development out of nostalgia is wrong-headed.

Edmonton is a rapidly growing metropolis, one of the most dynamic and energetic cities in Canada. The oilsands make it one of Canada's most important economic hubs.

But it's also one of the most sprawling, ungainly and inefficient major urban centres in North America.

Development continues to sprawl outward, driving up the costs of building and maintaining the road network, straining emergency services and making us all spend far too much time in traffic.

Meanwhile, 217 hectares of prime real estate near the centre of the city, worth an estimated $500 million, sits underutilized. For the most part, only a handful of small carriers who take passengers north continue to use the municipal airport.

It even hinders development of the downtown because building heights are restricted by flight paths.

Defenders say the international airport, 26 km south of the downtown core, is too far away, especially for people who fly into Edmonton from northern communities. But when it's complete in the next few years, Anthony Henday Drive will make it easier for out-of-towners and locals alike to go around Edmonton and get to the International.

While the number of passengers and amount of airplane traffic remains stagnant at the muni, the International continues to grow at a phenomenal rate. Passenger traffic each year has increased from just under 4 million to nearly 6.5 million in less than a decade.

As city council mulls the future of the municipal airport, let's hope logic and common sense prevail.

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http://www.edmontonsun.com/comment/editorial/2009/06/02/9646661-sun.html

EdmTrekker · #**3817** Posted **Jun 3, 2009, 1:31 AM**

2 posts on Airliners appears to indicate AC as cancelled the MBJ flight from YEG.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums...4422225&searchid=4429090&s=YEG#ID4429090

Quoting JM079 (Reply 79):
Air Canada has updated there winter schedule and will provide flights to MBJ from the following cities.

YYZ - MBJ (daily)
YYC - MBJ (mon)
YVR - MBJ (fri)
YWG- MBJ (sat)
YUL- MBJ (sat/sun)
YOW - MBJ (sat)

0773|=\ · #**3818** Posted **Jun 3, 2009, 3:22 AM**

^^

Well said, Andrew!

Perhaps a piece of this land can somehow be developed in a way to honor the historical significance of Blatchford Field. Just not the whole bloody thing!

tuffyy · #**3819** Posted **Jun 3, 2009, 5:52 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

2 posts on Airliners appears to indicate AC as cancelled the MBJ flight from YEG.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums...4422225&searchid=4429090&s=YEG#ID4429090

Quoting JM079 (Reply 79):
Air Canada has updated there winter schedule and will provide flights to MBJ from the following cities.

YYZ - MBJ (daily)
YYC - MBJ (mon)
YVR - MBJ (fri)
YWG- MBJ (sat)
YUL- MBJ (sat/sun)
YOW - MBJ (sat)

Transat will continue the YEG-MBJ route for winter 09/10, so no worries...

hilman · #**3820** Posted **Jun 3, 2009, 3:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by tuffyy

Transat will continue the YEG-MBJ route for winter 09/10, so no worries...

The Transat flight is a better flight as the AC flight was on a Thursday. I took the Transat flight in March and it is YEG-YYC-MBJ (1 hour layover) and MBJ-YEG-YYC on the way home using an Airbus A330-300 (seating capacity of 342). This flight leaves around 21:30 on a Friday and returns on the following Sunday afternoon around 14:30. Both flights were packed when we went and definitely recommend going to Jamaica if you like the sun and sand.