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Old Posted Jun 10, 2008, 3:09 AM
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I know we've already finished discussing the look of the Lighthouse renderings, but I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone comparing it to a cross between city hospital (with that screwy looking tile exterior and square window holes) and that federal building on the SE corner of 25th and 3rd, complete with funny wedge pieces sticking out at odd angles.
     
     
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I'm so happy to see so many new housing starts in both cities, it's really quite amazing to see how Saskatoon has about twice the demand of Regina for new homes. Hopefully most of the people moving their are from other more cosmopolitan cities to help bolster the cities amenities!
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I'm so happy to see so many new housing starts in both cities, it's really quite amazing to see how Saskatoon has about twice the demand of Regina for new homes. Hopefully most of the people moving their are from other more cosmopolitan cities to help bolster the cities amenities!
Has much to do with Saskatoon's share of provincial job growth over the past while, I suspect
     
     
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Has much to do with Saskatoon's share of provincial job growth over the past while, I suspect
Which is fantastic, lets just hope world interest in the city increases and more businesses come here to flourish!
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Which is fantastic, lets just hope world interest in the city increases and more businesses come here to flourish!
to that, Saskatoon will take the world by storm

It's exciting to think big!
     
     
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Speaking of thinking (not too) big. From the Saturday SP:

New rink on campus great investment idea for provincial gov't

P.J. Kennedy, The StarPhoenix
Published: Saturday, June 07, 2008

In 1928, University of Saskatchewan's student newspaper The Sheaf reported plans to construct an indoor, on-campus "ice-drome" which was completed in 1929. Today, 80 years later, Rutherford Rink is as anachronistic as the label "ice-drome."

This decrepit building is totally inadequate to meet the multiple needs of a Canadian university in the 21st century.

In 2005, Hockey Canada and the Canadian Recreation Facilities Council produced a national arena census which indicated that the average life expectancy for an ice arena in Canada was 32 years. Public, private and institutional arenas were examined and the report's findings indicated that 32 per cent were built before 1970, 13 per cent before 1960 and only a miniscule five per cent were constructed prior to 1950.

To put these findings into perspective, and to show how terribly outdated the 1929 Rutherford Rink is, it should be noted that the same report found there were more indoor rinks in Canada relying on natural ice (10 per cent) than there were arenas built before 1950.

Women's dressing room in trailer

A university rink with a top five men's hockey program and ever-improving women's hockey team should be expected to provide quality ice conditions along with off-ice support facilities and spectator amenities. Indeed, as a member of Canadian Interuniversity Sport (CIS), Huskie Athletics has an obligation to provide a venue which meets minimum expectations for competition at the CIS level.

Rutherford Rink's single ice surface is 199 feet, six inches by 84 feet, nine inches, just below the 200x85 NHL standards. Other than the ice surface, little else at the Saskatoon facility comes close to meeting any contemporary standards.

The cramped men's dressing room has hooks on the wall, limited storage capacity, one sink and a small shower room. The women's room is a construction trailer in the back parking lot. Visitors' dressing facilities are even more limited.

Stationary bicycles in the arena attic represent the training facilities. A cold, dingy coaches' room warmed by portable space heaters is crammed under the stands. Spectator amenities include one washroom for each gender, a single counter with a limited number of concession items, a view of the ice obstructed by roof support posts and heavy black netting, inadequate heat and backless seating which consists of wooden boards affixed to concrete.

The decrepit building is totally inadequate.

Beyond the dozens of student-athletes playing at the elite men's and woman's interuniversity level and the thousands of current and potential spectators on-campus and throughout the community, there are hundreds of men's and women's intramural players who are forced to play at extreme early morning and late night hours because the arena has reached its capacity.

They, too, must suffer from poor dressing facilities and showers as well as inadequate lighting and heat.

Rink could have many uses

Students studying kinesiology who require on-ice instructional sessions as well as recreational skaters from among the students and staff on campus are limited because the demand for ice time has outgrown capacity.

At a time when the provincial government has received windfall revenue from natural resources that belong to the entire province, it should take a lead role in constructing a twin-pad ice arena at Saskatchewan's oldest and largest university. Such a building should have classrooms, training facilities, offices and seating for 3,000 or more people.

Students who represent Saskatchewan in interuniversity competition, intramural and recreational students who are endeavouring to have a healthy lifestyle and kinesiology students wanting to use the rink for educational purposes come from across the province, not just one constituency.

This could be a truly provincial endeavour. A new rink with adequate seating capacity could be used for convocation, concerts and other campus and community events affecting many more people than those involved directly with CIS hockey.

With two pads, revenue could be generated by renting ice time to off-campus groups.

The days of the "ice-drome" are gone. A provincial government that wants to use its resource revenue prudently to benefit a wide variety of people from throughout the province should step forward.

With operational budgets at the university stretched to the limit, the provincial government must make the initial financial commitment for such a one-time capital expenditure. It, together with University of Saskatchewan and private donors, has the opportunity to relegate to history the embarrassment that is Rutherford Rink and its position among the bottom five per cent of arenas across the country.

Michael P. J. Kennedy, PhD, teaches for the Department of English including a class entitled Reading Culture: Hockey in Canadian Literature and is the author of Dogs on Ice: A History of Hockey at University of Saskatchewan.

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Old Posted Jun 10, 2008, 5:12 AM
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[QUOTE=kgc087;3603556]I'm so happy to see so many new housing starts in both cities, it's really quite amazing to see how Saskatoon has about twice the demand of Regina for new homes. Hopefully most of the people moving their are from other more cosmopolitan cities to help bolster the cities amenities![/QUOTE]

I doubt it, because it seems most of them are moving into the bedroom communities from the above story. Starts in the city proper are actually down. Nice as they may be, I've never thought of Warman or Martensville as cosmopolitan, so I'm doubting that cosmopolitan people are moving there. Just a hunch.
     
     
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I thought I just saw another rendering of the lighthouse on global news. It was on a big poster when they were showing the council meeting. From what I saw, it looked a whole lot better than the previous pics. I am surprised the star kleenex has not scooped this yet - maybe tomorrow...
     
     
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Re: New rink on campus great investment idea for provincial gov't

Supporters have been voicing the need for a replacement for years (decades?), why and how will the provincial government be swayed this time? Simply because they have the moola? Hmmm, so many projects, so many deserving projects...we should make a list.

In no particular order:

1. U of S - New Huskies hockey arena
2. Whitewater park
3. Relocation of bus barns
4. Affordable housing - Various proposals
5. Upgraded highways
6. South bridge
7. Perimeter highway
8. North bridge
9....

On top of tax cuts and increases in wages for government services...

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Old Posted Jun 10, 2008, 5:39 AM
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From what I saw, it looked a whole lot better than the previous pics.
I certainly hope you're right. I think I dislike the design we've all seen a bit more each time I look at those renderings. But they are poor quality rendering IMO so the real thing could look much better.

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Supporters have been voicing the need for a replacement for years (decades?), what and how will the provincial government be swayed this time? Simply because they have the moola? Hmmm, so many projects, so many deserving projects...we should make a list.
IIRC, a twin sheet ice rink was part of the concept plan for the College Quarter re-development. Perhaps the U of S will make a new rink a priority in the coming years and try to get the government on board for it? But certainly not before the residence project is underway/completed I imagine. A performing arts centre was also suggested by the College Quarter plan... a top quality rink/performing arts centre would be an exciting project for the U of S and the city, albeit an unlikely one for the time being.

Also, I know that information/renderings of Health Sciences D Wing has been posted on here before, but I'm not sure if we've seen E Wing on this thread yet. I wasn't aware of a rendering myself until recently. IMO it looks better than D Wing and will have a great presence on College Drive. Plus it replaces that ugly Medical Research building!


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The E Wing addition will include a new library, the first 500-seat lecture theatre on campus, and new clinical learning resource space. The existing Medical Research Building will be deconstructed to accommodate the E wing addition. The majority of the E wing will be a stand alone building extending from the pedestrian intersection of the Academic Health Sciences Building and the Dental Clinic all the way to Campus Drive. Currently in the design phase, several user group and working group meetings are being held to determine space allocation needs. Tender documents should be issued in the fall of 2008
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In no particular order:

1. U of S - New Huskies hockey arena
2. Whitewater park
3. Relocation of bus barns
4. Affordable housing - Various proposals
5. Upgraded highways
6. South bridge
7. Perimeter highway
8. North bridge
9....

On top of tax cuts and increases in wages for government services...
9. Station 20 West (Yup, I'm still bitter about it.)
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Also, I know that information/renderings of Health Sciences D Wing has been posted on here before, but I'm not sure if we've seen E Wing on this thread yet. I wasn't aware of a rendering myself until recently. IMO it looks better than D Wing and will have a great presence on College Drive. Plus it replaces that ugly Medical Research building!



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Whoa! College's curb appeal keeps getting better

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Here is what I saw, sorry about the black and white, got this from the cities official council minutes. the poster was in colour. Use your imagination I guess.
Much better IMO
Enjoy.....

     
     
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Here is what I saw, sorry about the black and white, got this from the cities official council minutes. the poster was in colour. Use your imagination I guess.
Much better IMO
Enjoy.....

Better indeed, they should think about a few green roofs.
     
     
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Here is what I saw, sorry about the black and white, got this from the cities official council minutes. the poster was in colour. Use your imagination I guess.
Much better IMO
Enjoy.....

That's one heck of a structure. How tall is it supposed to be? Tallest in the city?

It's not that ugly either.

Also, I hope the city makes the owners of the Milroy paint the stupid thing. That baby pee yellow colour is as awful as sin.
     
     
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That's a much better angle. I still think it'd look better if that chunky part of the building was reduced to 2 or 3 floors, but still a good addition to the skyline!

So what's the intended use of this tower? And who's building it?
     
     
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Now that I see the full building, it looks much better then before.
it's still a little 80's/90's architecture IMO but the design has bits of some modern architecture in it.
The tower looks tall enough to be a tallest too!
we need a future saskatoon rendering.
     
     
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As for changes to the skyline, especially from across the river this project at 25 stories won't be that noticeable.

Here is the proposed location of the Lighthouse tower.


Saskatoon Tower is highlighted in red, and according to Emporis is 21 stories.

Source image - Saskatoon at Night: A full moon, a few bridges, some churches, and all the rest.

Depends on your definition of noticeable...
     
     
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That's a much better angle. I still think it'd look better if that chunky part of the building was reduced to 2 or 3 floors, but still a good addition to the skyline!

So what's the intended use of this tower? And who's building it?
Intended use is residential, a mix of affordable housing, supported living, and market units.

Not really sure who all the players are behind this project...The Lighthouse Assisted Living, City of Saskatoon, Province of Saskatchewan...other private interests???

The following media release is date October 2007, the details may have changed.
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The province is committing a total of $15.67 million to a variety of housing projects in Saskatoon. The projects include The Lighthouse, a 120 rental unit building for vulnerable, low-income single people and people with special needs, as well as the purchase of three apartment buildings to provide a total of 46 rental units to lower income families.

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Published in The Windsor Star

Shuttling workers to Sask. could help both regions: Francis
Angela Hall , Canwest News Service
Published: Monday, June 09, 2008

The mayor of Windsor says he's not worried about unemployed residents from his city going west to find work.

In fact, Windsor Mayor Eddie Francis has been floating the idea of helping local workers get to Saskatchewan.

But he said Monday he's confident residents will still come home to Canada's southernmost city.

Francis recently met with Saskatchewan Enterprise and Innovation Minister Lyle Stewart to discuss the possibility of having unemployed Windsor residents fly back and forth between Ontario and Saskatchewan on a weekly basis to fill jobs.

"Instead of losing employees and having employees just uproot and move out west and not come back, we shifted our thinking," Francis said Monday.

"(We began) to ask the question, 'What do we need to do whereby we can keep families here, keep the unit together here?' while at the same time allowing them to earn a living and perhaps filling a need that may exist, as there is one in Saskatchewan."

Officials in Windsor have tried to be proactive by suggesting ideas such as the cross-Canada commute as another alternative, Francis said.

He said his city plans a survey to find out how many people are already travelling to work out of province, who else might be interested and their areas of expertise.

"By anecdote, there's a significant number that are already making the trek. We just don't know how many," Francis said.

Officials can better talk about logistics, such as how the flights would be arranged and paid for, once it's clear how many people might be involved, he said.

The Windsor region has been hard hit by problems in the automobile-manufacturing industry, while Saskatchewan's resource-fuelled boom has the province seeking workers to fill a growing number of jobs.

Francis said Windsor is in "transition" and many workers want to keep their families rooted there until the employment situation improves.

"Are some going to move? Yes. But what we're trying to deal with is if we don't have a program like this, chances are more and more would just up and relocate," he said.

Francis said he initially spoke with various western mayors about the idea, but credited Saskatchewan government officials for "really opening the door" by sitting down to discuss the concept.

"We're going to be working very closely with them," Francis said.

The Regina Leader-Post

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