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Old Posted Jul 19, 2019, 8:45 PM
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Whatever happened to following Edmonton's user-friendly model?

I get that this is not a rezoning so it's a little more complicated to convey, but surely the City can do better than that little yellow sign.


https://twitter.com/tessavanderhart/...79815891951617
proposed variance sign in River Heights — compare it with the yellow one on the right that’s what the city uses now.
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Looks like something is finally going to happen at 775 Henderson Hwy at the site of the old Dunrobin Esso station.

There is a board of adjustment hearing coming up to review plans to put a strip mall with a Dr office/ Pharmacy and some other units to be filled later. (at least according to the render of the front elevation)

Staff parking will be at the back with one row patient parking at the front off of Henderson.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2019, 11:14 PM
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Anyone know what is actually included in the sale of the Portage Place building assets? There's quite a few buildings on the south side of Portage that have PP signage and the leases run through the mall. The skywalk from Newport to Hydro is considered PP, the skywalk from Newport to the arena even looks like the other PP ones, even though it's not attached.

Would be very curious to see all the assets included here. I wonder if we could eventually see some redevelopment of the whole block across from APTN, with the ongoing Newport renos.
     
     
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I know that the property owner is serious about developing... they know what they're doing, and they didn't recently buy all this property and make a lot of improvements to 201 Portage just so they could sit on a giant surface lot for years and years, drawing tiny but steady revenue from parking. (In short, this isn't going to be another downtown surface lot held for decades by an amateur family company.)

And I get that they're also waiting to see how the dust clears with respect to both True North Square and 300 Main -- to see if there's demand for a new building at Portage and Main.

That's all fine, but preventing one more dinky revenue stream is a way the city can effectively incentivize development quicker. I guess in this case though, because the properties on Main are such a dump and there's a billboard that isn't permitted downtown anymore, that the City took this an opportunity to leverage some small visual improvements (no more wood fence that's falling over, no more giant billboard). It's a crummy situation all around, but I take some comfort in knowing that Harvard is actually serious about, and capable of, developing the site one day.
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The issue is really about a consistent policy for the City. (One way or the other).

If you do not want more surface parking lots in the city STOP APPROVING NEW ONES!

This conditional use does not require paving or sewer. The idea that some kind of arts programming on the site on occasion is any kind of consolation prize is a joke! Why should this be approved as a conditional use and not the parking lot on Hargrave? Why would the City allow and support this conditional use and take away parking on a lot on Notre Danme that had been parked for 15 years?

Why create a new gravel lot on Galt/Duncan for sports Manitoba by changing a site from vacant land to parking in the last few years?

When you remove consistant rules and certainty you deminish the confidence of people to invest in Winnipeg.

As to who owns the lots we often speak of, let me share my thoughts...

Most of the small lots are owned by the buildings beside them and used for employee parking. As new development requires parking, these sites for the most part are too small to economically develop today.

As for the very large surface lots, they are owned or controlled by very large companies, the government, and 3 or 4 local investors. Most would gladly build on if a proper tennant was available. As mentioned before, I can think of very few parking lots developed as opposed to demolition of existing buildings in the last 10 years.

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Old Posted Jul 22, 2019, 7:01 PM
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Smith Street Lofts
Location: 185 Smith St Winnipeg, MB
Developer: Edison Properties
Architect(s) : MMP Architects Inc.
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Description: Former social housing complex being retrofitted to mix of 250 market-rate rentals and affordable units, renovations expected to be completed in 2021



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Affordable units envisioned for former housing highrise
Smith Street tower will 'look like a very different building'
By: Solomon Israel Posted: 07/22/2019 4:00 AM

Edison Properties, the apartment developer that bought the broken-down Manitoba Housing highrise at 185 Smith St., envisions resurrecting the downtown tower with a mix of market-rate rentals and more affordable units.

"The densification of the area is definitely, to us, a draw in the sense that where there’s lots of people, then there’s lots of activity," said Edison Properties vice-president Frank Koch-Schulte, who highlighted the building’s proximity to restaurants and condos in Winnipeg’s downtown core.

"And we just thought we could do a lot for the building, and it’s an exciting project for us."

Workers are currently gutting the interior of the concrete building, which originally housed more than 300 social-housing units. Koch-Schulte said the project will have closer to 250 units when work is complete.

"We always try and provide what I’d say is good value. But as far as affordable, we are trying to have a good portion of these units be affordable, and also accessible," Koch-Schulte said, stressing that the project is still in its early stages and exact rents have yet to be established. Work could potentially be finished sometime in 2021, he said.

Koch-Schulte said Edison’s renovations to the building will be extensive, citing plans for a new, ground-level commercial plaza that could contain a café or a restaurant.

"It’ll definitely look like a very different building when we’re done with it."

Former families minister Scott Fielding told the Free Press in 2018 that the refurbished building might include seniors housing, but Koch-Schulte said that possibility has since been taken off the table.

Koch-Schulte expects the apartments to attract renters of all ages, including young professionals who want to live and work downtown.

Social-housing advocates in Winnipeg were concerned when the highrise was sold to Edison for $16.2 million in 2018. Residents had been evacuated in 2015 following a flood caused by broken pipes, and the tower sat vacant for years before being sold to the developer.

"By us taking up this building, we’ll be turning it back into multi-family (housing), so it will be contributing in some effect to the affordability issue in the city — maybe not by addressing the lower-rent market, but it’ll still be adding units to the market, which I think is a good thing overall," Koch-Schulte said.

Josh Brandon, a community animator with the Social Planning Council of Winnipeg, said 185 Smith was "perhaps one of the worst-condition properties" owned by Manitoba Housing after decades of insufficient maintenance.

"But in recent years, after about 2009, the provincial government started to ramp up its investment program in Manitoba Housing. And we started to see some positive developments," he said.

Still, Brandon said social-housing construction in Manitoba has mostly stalled, and that units are disappearing overall.

"There’s the property on Smith, there’s another property in Fort Rouge that’s been lost recently. And so the amount of available housing for people with very low incomes has decreased both in absolute numbers, and even more dramatically in terms of the need for that housing."

The social-housing units lost when 185 Smith was abandoned represented about one per cent of all social housing in Manitoba, according to Brandon.

"So that’s a significant loss for the community, and although it’s good that it’s ultimately being replaced by more housing, there’s a question of who is going to access the housing."

Brandon worries that provincial budget cuts have affected maintenance spending on Manitoba’s social-housing stock in recent years.

"There’s still much work to be done, and in recent years we’ve seen some of those capital investments trail off," he said.

"So that’s a concern that we have — we need to make sure that Manitoba Housing invests in building new social housing to meet ongoing need and continues to invest in capital repairs to maintain existing stock."

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With the second phase of 360 main going up on an existing tower podium and the potential for Portage Place to have 2 towers on existing podiums, are there any other existing "tower podiums" that can be built on in DT winnipeg?
     
     
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With the second phase of 360 main going up on an existing tower podium and the potential for Portage Place to have 2 towers on existing podiums, are there any other existing "tower podiums" that can be built on in DT winnipeg?
Always wondered that myself. Those two are the only modern ones that would keep being mentioned in the press, and I can't think of any obvious examples of unused podiums.

I suppose there are well known instances of buildings that were designed to support additional floors like the Curry Building on Portage, or Union Station, but those are not really designed for 'towers'. I suspect that a lot of older buildings were probably built with the possibility of adding a few floors in mind. There is also the unbuilt second tower of TD Centre/201 Portage, but I don't think there is an actual foundation built as there was with Portage Place/Winnipeg Square.
     
     
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Always wondered that myself. Those two are the only modern ones that would keep being mentioned in the press, and I can't think of any obvious examples of unused podiums.

I suppose there are well known instances of buildings that were designed to support additional floors like the Curry Building on Portage, or Union Station, but those are not really designed for 'towers'. I suspect that a lot of older buildings were probably built with the possibility of adding a few floors in mind. There is also the unbuilt second tower of TD Centre/201 Portage, but I don't think there is an actual foundation built as there was with Portage Place/Winnipeg Square.
Yeah Curry building and 201 are the only other potential ones that come to mind for me.
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250 Portage can accommodate a few additional floors.
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Does the Curry Building have any historical designation from the city? If so would that prevent the building from being enlarged as it was designed?
     
     
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250 Portage can accommodate a few additional floors.
Approximately four more floors.
     
     
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Does the Curry Building have any historical designation from the city? If so would that prevent the building from being enlarged as it was designed?
https://www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep...u.aspx?id=5927
     
     
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Actually, The Bay Downtown @ 450 Portage...was designed to also be expanded if ever required with as many as 4 - 6 floors. When I worked there, they tried to court MB HYDRO as a Head office location there with that suggestion in 2006. HBC would have retained 3 floors for retail only.
     
     
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Actually, The Bay Downtown @ 450 Portage...was designed to also be expanded if ever required with as many as 4 - 6 floors. When I worked there, they tried to court MB HYDRO as a Head office location there with that suggestion in 2006. HBC would have retained 3 floors for retail only.
4-6 floors of massive stones, granite, limestone and such? Or 4-6 floors of steel?

Because honestly with the way HBC built that store 100 years ago, plus technological advances as well... it would definitely be possible to build some high-rises (or at least some mid-rises) into that space. As long as nobody touches the Paddlewheel...
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I'm not sure what ideas have been floated for the HBC store, but I wonder if any idea to add floors wouldn't involve hollowing out part of the building and just building a new tower pretty well from the ground up?

Unless the intent is to add just a couple of floors in which case they could probably add them to the existing building with ease, in much the same way that Eaton's grew by a few floors 100+ years ago. But it's hard to imagine that being likely... there are already more large floorplates in there than they know what do with.
     
     
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why would someone add floors to the Bay? Its already half a million square feet. Should probably fill those first.
     
     
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4-6 floors of massive stones, granite, limestone and such? Or 4-6 floors of steel?

Because honestly with the way HBC built that store 100 years ago, plus technological advances as well... it would definitely be possible to build some high-rises (or at least some mid-rises) into that space. As long as nobody touches the Paddlewheel...
I can not properly answer your question. The plans for expansion were offered to MB Hydro in 2006 and it could have been done somehow?
The 450 Portage ave store opened in 1926.
The larger scale model sat in the store managers office.
It showed how the building could have looked like if expanded back in likely the 30's, 40's etc..
     
     
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