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View Poll Results: What is the most compelling UBC project or proposal?
University Town 34 31.48%
University Boulevard 34 31.48%
Museum of Anthropology Expansion 12 11.11%
UBC Winter Sports Centre 11 10.19%
Irving K. Barber Learning Centre 7 6.48%
Sauder School of Business building redevelopment 10 9.26%
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Old Posted May 7, 2011, 12:08 AM
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What about getting it up the escarpment? If it's cut and cover under 10th going up, isn't that a rather steep grade?
He said "at" UBC (I interpret that to mean west of Blanca).

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From what I remember in studies, and from comparison to the southernmost section of the Canada Line, it's possible that the route might be single-track to UBC. Therefore, wouldn't it make more sense to have the track go past the residential area before hitting a terminus at UBC, as suggested in Zassk's map? Just a thought.
Good point if it's single track - but I think they'd be nuts to single track a UBC terminus - just because of the crush loads of arriving and departing passengers at the one destination would mean an overflowing platform.

If UBC is the penultimate station (with dual track), they could single track to Wesbrook Village and even short turn some trains at UBC.
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Old Posted May 7, 2011, 4:10 AM
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What about a loop, something like this:



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Allowing the midtown line and the Broadway line to meet at UBC.
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Old Posted May 7, 2011, 5:11 AM
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What about getting it up the escarpment? If it's cut and cover under 10th going up, isn't that a rather steep grade?
The doc says "A section on University Boulevard is assumed to be cut and cover.", so that'd be somewhere west of Blanca.
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Old Posted May 7, 2011, 9:03 AM
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Interesting concept. However, that's a lot of boring that they'll have to do.
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Old Posted May 7, 2011, 8:26 PM
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The doc says "A section on University Boulevard is assumed to be cut and cover.", so that'd be somewhere west of Blanca.
It seems odd to me to use TBMs to bore 10 KM from VCC Station to Blanca, only to switch to cut 'n' cover for the last 2 1/2 KMs through UEL and UBC.

With the difference in cost of TBM vs. cut 'n' cover being around 10%, the extra costs involved in changing between these two tunneling methods may be the same as (or greater than) just using TBM all the way to UBC.

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Old Posted May 8, 2011, 4:24 AM
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The cost difference might not be much for cut and covering only the last 2.5Km but the time savings would be significant as you could have the 2.5K done at the same time as the boring is taking place.
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Old Posted May 8, 2011, 5:55 AM
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We're not going to see a 41st Avenue line for the next 30+ years. I see no point in planning the UBC line around that. That would be like pointing the end of the Evergreen Line toward Belcarra just because there might be growth there in the next 30 years. In that distant future, older lines can be reconfigured and rebuilt to meet whatever reality exists then. The city will be much larger by the time such things come to pass, and therefore will be able to afford to build or rebuild subway lines at that time.
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Old Posted May 8, 2011, 7:38 PM
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The UBC Line really should be planned with a slight deviation south from the golf course down to near Wesbrook Village, before turning back north to the bus loop, so the growing Wesbrook area can be served by a transit station.

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http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?ie=UTF...79308&t=h&z=14
I was thinking that with TBM construction, you aren't restricted to using the space under, over, or on existing roadways, so why bother staying on the U.Blvd alignment?

Here's one idea of the Skytrain bore using Thunderbird Blvd and West Mall:


and a variant using Thunderbird Blvd and Main Mall:


But since the TBM bore can go under the golf course, you can build a different route so that the Skytrain runs the length of UBC and connects to the new high-density developments on either side of 16th Ave:


This last variant could give you stations at SUB / University Blvd, Thunderbird Blvd, and 16th Ave / Wesbrook Mall.

By running the Skytrain route along the length of UBC, it is closer to the centre of of the campus and allows for stations to be located closer to where the future growth of the campus will be.
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I don't think that covers enough territory though. Specifically it misses University Bvld, the main significant corridor into UBC. Note that the golf course to the north of the bvld. may eventually get redeveloped by the Musqueam FN for more housing, and also note that there's a significant commercial centre just to the east of the intersection with Westbrook Mall. At the moment all three alignments miss those two important areas.

In addition, I have strong doubts as to whether the university or the region will be willing to fund that deviation. If anything it'll only serve the interests of the university and its residents at a possible doubling or tripling of any theoretical length and costs for that segment.

A UBC circulatory streetcar, on the other hand, may be able to cover additional territory and provide better service at a much cheaper cost and would fit in nicely with UBC's generally large road right of ways. In addition it'd also be a good "test case" of the theories of UBC's urban planning department.


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I don't think that covers enough territory though. Specifically it misses University Bvld, the main significant corridor into UBC. Note that the golf course to the north of the bvld. may eventually get redeveloped by the Musqueam FN for more housing, and also note that there's a significant commercial centre just to the east of the intersection with Westbrook Mall. At the moment all three alignments miss those two important areas.

In addition, I have strong doubts as to whether the university or the region will be willing to fund that deviation. If anything it'll only serve the interests of the university and its residents at a possible doubling or tripling of any theoretical length and costs for that segment.

A UBC circulatory streetcar, on the other hand, may be able to cover additional territory and provide better service at a much cheaper cost and would fit in nicely with UBC's generally large road right of ways. In addition it'd also be a good "test case" of the theories of UBC's urban planning department.


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I think that would really help circulate students really well around the school. But I would put the stations at Westbrook and University (where your point grey station is), and a second station at West Mall and University (where your Vanier station is). The second one would be optional but it would pretty close to many residents, thus offering students a shorter walk home if they are coming into the school after being in the city at night (work, partying, whatever). It could be single tracked, and basically allow better loading and unloading at the more popular station University Station, and function as the turn around point for trains. But that's just an option. You are going to need a tail track off University station to turn trains around (University would be too busy for just one platform), so you could extend it a hundred meters and have a second station.

What I do think a lot of people are forgetting is what you said about the golf course. I believe it is first nations land, and when the lease is up, they want to redevelop it. So that is one of the main reasons for cut and cover, it allows them to add a station near the present golf course when it is redeveloped as a high density neighborhood, thus contributing to the ridership of the line. Be it student housing, rental apartments, leasehold condos or office space, that will be a busy station when the golf course is gone.

The other thing, concerning the 41st ave line, is that it would be better as LRT/streetcar. It is quite a busy bus, cuts through much of the city and Kerrisdale, but isn't a regional destination like Broadway/UBC. I don't think it would ever need to by Skytrain. And LRT at grade would function quite well on SW Marine Dr parkway hitting some pretty good speeds, and the local service on the rest of the route is what is needed most.
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Old Posted May 10, 2011, 12:52 AM
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I actually curved UBC Vancouver up there just in the rare chance that when the SUB gets rebuilt that they actually include a provision for a SkyTrain station underneath. I have no idea as to how plans are progressing there though. =S
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It wasn't noted here, but compassion triumphed over superstition and UBC approved the hospice last week. If you're looking for a good deal on a condo, maybe check out listings in the Promontory to see if the NIMBY's put their money where their mouth is.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2052151/
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I actually curved UBC Vancouver up there just in the rare chance that when the SUB gets rebuilt that they actually include a provision for a SkyTrain station underneath. I have no idea as to how plans are progressing there though. =S
I'm not entirely sure if a second station on the Endowment Lands would even be necessary. Though, if there is one, the "Vanier" location would be more idea (Main Mall and University Boulevard). The new SUB isn't located where your UBC Vancouver station currently is.

I would also move your streetcar down to West Mall (or even Lower Mall) rather than Main Mall, to bring it closer to the residences. I like the concept though.
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UBC Faculty of Law Building (Allard Hall) is officially open.
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Here some pics of the new Pharmacy Building under construction from a guy at Glotman Simpson Engineers:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24096204@N03/
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2011, 12:14 AM
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Don't think this one has been mentioned:

Djavad Mowafaghian Centre for Brain Health
Adjacent to UBC Hospital. Designed by Stantec.

http://www.centreforbrainhealth.ca/Default.htm


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http://www.centreforbrainhealth.ca/_...view320078.jpg
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That one took me a little bit to figure out since the location isn't posted in the description.

The building is going up in the parking lot on Wesbrook Mall in front of the UBC Hospital. Looks like a pretty slick use of space.
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The above building hides the old hospital quite well from site along Westbrook Mall. I can't say I am a fan of the architecture of the hospital. This new building alongside the Pharmacy building will make Westbrook Mall more dignified.

It's quite a busy year in UBC, building wise. Lots of new buildings and infrastructure built. The notorious potholes on the asphalt pathways are the most notable, as they are now paved with bricks on several major paths. The University Commons, the area around East Mall and University Boulevard will get a lot nicer once the new SUB gets going, the aquatic centre renewed, the roads repaved, and the transit center gets put into place (hopefully with some sort of rapid transit integration) in several years time.

They also just opened "North America's Greenest Building".

http://www.sustain.ubc.ca/ubc-opens-...enest-building

Loads of new housing for both the market and students too.
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Construction starting next to the Kenny Building and Continuing Studies Building.
Student housing going up.
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A few while I was waiting at a light. These are across the street from one another:
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and the Centre for Drug Research and Development, or something like that:
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