noirish Los Angeles - Page 1838

FredH · #**36741** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 2:56 AM**

This is a nice 1949 color photo by L. Mildred Harris, showing Los Angeles Street and the Lugo House

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Two years later, the street has been wiped clean. If you look closely in the lower right hand corner, you can still see the
post holes on the sidewalk where the front of the Lugo House was supported. I drove over in the Google Mobile, hoping
the post hole marks were still there, but no.

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FredH · #**36742** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 4:01 AM**

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Temple and Figueroa looking south in 1932.

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Above: Temple at the junction between Flower and Figueroa in the 1930s.

What does this intersection look like today?

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Originally Posted by sopas ej

It looks very different today.

Very interesting photos, ethereal. In 1939, this area was changed when the City built the Temple Street overpass over Figueroa, creating the first diamond interchange in southern California and perhaps the west coast. Flower Street no longer reaches Temple, it was truncated in the 1960s because of Bunker Hill redevelopment.

The intersection of Figueroa and Temple was prominently featured in the 1964 Bette Davis film "Dead Ringer." In the film you can even see the DWP building under construction.

Here are some photos of the intersection, courtesy LAPL:

1939, construction of the Temple St. overpass

Here is the completed overpass shown in December, 1939:

The overpass still exists in all its Art Moderne glory. However everything else around it looks nothing like this picture now.

OK, a short update on these old posts from 2010:

This is the 1938 proposal on the Temple Street overpass.

LA Times Blogs, LA Times.com

Today, the intersection looks like this:

Google Maps

Flower Street was rerouted when Bunker Hill was torn up. It has been replaced here by something called Dewap Road.

California Street was obliterated by the Hollywood Freeway, shown here by dotted lines.

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Note that the traffic island on the 1938 plan is still there (kind of). However, the streetcars on Temple Street are long gone.

HossC · #**36743** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 7:36 AM**

I also covered the intersection of Temple and Figueroa in post #23532, coincidentally exactly two years ago today.

As an addition, I recently came across this photo looking up Temple Street toward the intersection. The bridge's parapet can just be seen to the left of the bus. The new construction I mentioned in my original post (that now covers the whole block on the left) turned out to be another of those faux-Italian fortress projects by a well-known developer whose name I won't mention.

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oldstuff · #**36744** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 3:07 PM**

[QUOTE=FredH;7553088]ethereal_reality
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Flower Street was rerouted when Bunker Hill was torn up. It has been replaced here by something called Dewap Road.

Dewap is shorthand for Department of Water and Power which went in that area when they tore up Bunker Hill. I always thought that they should have called it something else since Dewap seems kind of silly.

ethereal_reality · #**36745** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 4:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

At the right edge of the photo is 217 S. Olive (with a caged bird hanging
from the right side of the porch). To the left of 221 is 227, and at the left edge of the photo is 235 S. Olive. [c.1895]

486791 @ Huntington Digital Library, Ernest Marquez Collection

This is such an excellent photograph Flyingwedge! Glad you pointed out the bird in the cage......I would have missed it. (and as everyone knows, I love details

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But I'm curious about the slanted slotted box(s) at the front gate of 217 S. Olive. (the bird cage house)

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I thought it was the family's mailbox, but then I noticed a second one on the opposite side of the same gate.

Any idea what they were used for?

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ethereal_reality · #**36746** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 5:03 PM**

'mystery' chair on roof.

https://hammer.ucla.edu/now-dig-this...d6f89557165842

Operation Teacup, an Easter weekend cleanup organized by the Student Committee for Improvement in Watts, 107th Street, Los Angeles, April 1965.

These small homes on the west side of 107th street are all gone now with one exception at the corner of 107th street and Graham Avenue.

-replaced by the Watts Towers Art Center.

As for the chair on the roof......I have no answer.

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John Maddox Roberts · #**36747** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 5:57 PM**

I'm guessing someone was using the chair to stand on while constructing that framework on the roof. A candidate for the Darwin Awards?

Flyingwedge · #**36748** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

But I'm curious about the slanted slotted box(s) at the front gate of 217 S. Olive. (the bird cage house)

detail

I thought it was the family's mailbox, but then I noticed a second one on the opposite side of the same gate.

Any idea what they were used for?

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They may have been mailboxes. This photo shows 217 had a twin next door, 213, so maybe both mailboxes were in the middle?

ethereal_reality · #**36749** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 8:49 PM**

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I didn't realize there were two identical houses....so you're probably right FW.

still a bit confused about the gate situation though.

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so in this scenario....there was a center gate shared by the two homes, with driveways on the far side of both houses....right?

you can see one of the driveway gates in the image above.

HossC · #**36750** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 9:32 PM**

I don't remember any previous sanitarium photosets from Julius Shulman. This is "Job 1041: Bay Shore Sanitarium (Hermosa Beach, Calif.), 1951".

Here's a close-up of the entrance with the street number.

The garden area.

This lady looks like should wouldn't stand for any nonsense.

One of the bedrooms.

A communal bedroom - I assume the one above is a single.

I can't help thinking of 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest' when I look at this last shot!

All from Getty Research Institute

The sanitarium was at 160 Manhattan Avenue, Hermosa Beach. Some map-based sites still lead you there. It was a C-shaped building with the garden in the center. I can see the sanitarium on the historic aerial views up until at least 1980. The 1994 image is too blurred to tell, but the current smaller residential buildings are definitely there by 2003.

Flyingwedge · #**36751** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 11:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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I didn't realize there were two identical houses....so you're probably right FW.

still a bit confused about the gate situation though.

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so in this scenario....there was a center gate shared by the two homes, with driveways on the far side of both houses....right?

you can see one of the driveway gates in the image above.

They may have been more walkways than driveways, but, yes, that would be my guess as well. I could not find any better
photo of the north side of 213 S. Olive than the one you posted above.

FredH · #**36752** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 2:29 AM**

LAPL

The library's description of this photo is as follows:

The intersection of Temple and Hope Streets, where the foundation of a residential staircase awaits demolition. The back
of an electric billboard abuts the staircase. Dated March 24, 1961.

Does anyone have a photo if this building? This staircase seems to be pretty intricate for a residence. Maybe a hotel or apartment building?

ethereal_reality · #**36753** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 3:21 AM**

I believe this might be the building FredM. (circled below in this 1958 aerial)

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detail from this pic.

LIFE

Here's that corner today. (southwest corner of Temple and Hope)

google_aerial

There's a desert garden there now.

gsv

If you look closely there's a plaque in front of the rock. Does anyone know what it says?

detail/gsv
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ethereal_reality · #**36754** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 4:18 AM**

'mystery' location

I happened upon this photograph over at the Pacific Electric site and they don't seem to have an exact location. (a rarity there)

http://www.pacificelectric.org/los-a...-drinks-candy/

Here's their description:

"Los Angeles Railway B Line streetcar no. 289 poses in front of a residential liquor store. The destination board reads B / To 51st St. & Ascot."

I thought someone here on NLA might recognize this street corner.
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clues:
There's a name at the very top of the blade sign, but it's illegible.

There's a white clapboard house reflected in the streetcar's windows. (see below)

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"Smokes - Soft Drinks - Candy"

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HossC · #**36755** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 2:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by FredH

LAPL

The library's description of this photo is as follows:

The intersection of Temple and Hope Streets, where the foundation of a residential staircase awaits demolition. The back
of an electric billboard abuts the staircase. Dated March 24, 1961.

Does anyone have a photo if this building? This staircase seems to be pretty intricate for a residence. Maybe a hotel or apartment building?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I believe this might be the building FredM. (circled below in this 1958 aerial)

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LIFE

From what I can tell, the house in question was 255 N Hope Street. I've arrowed it on the 1954 image below. It looks like the billboard was already in place. Actually, I think e_r's 1958 picture may just show the billboard on a retaining wall rather than a building.

Detail from picture at USC Digital Library

When the DWP knocked it down in 1957, the demo permit just lists it as a house. The building at 251 N Hope was apartments, but I can't find a name.

The housing court to the left of the mystery house was built in 1924. There are seven new construction permits, each for a pair of two-story houses. The addresses were 710, 712 and 714 Temple Street, each with a fraction after it. Up until 1930 they seem to have been named Empress Court. Their demo permit is dated 1958.

ethereal_reality · #**36756** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 3:52 PM**

I wonder why this small house has an oversized pennant-like flag flying in front of it?

detail / 1954

-good find Hoss.

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CityBoyDoug · #**36757** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 5:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by FredH

LAPL

The library's description of this photo is as follows:

The intersection of Temple and Hope Streets, where the foundation of a residential staircase awaits demolition. The back
of an electric billboard abuts the staircase. Dated March 24, 1961.

Does anyone have a photo if this building? This staircase seems to be pretty intricate for a residence. Maybe a hotel or apartment building?

Since we're doing steps this week, you just can't do better than the Music Box steps. Of course this has been seen before but always fun to revisit.

google file

HossC · #**36758** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I wonder why this small house has an oversized pennant-like flag flying in front of it?

detail / 1954

Maybe the flag was a last stand - the building was gone a year later

. This view also gives another look at Empress Court and the house on the corner of Hope Street.

Detail from picture at USC Digital Library

Incidentally, there's no flag in this 1936 picture before the grade separation.

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Originally Posted by HossC

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ethereal_reality · #**36759** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 6:22 PM**

Hmmmm....it does look a bit like a surrender flag doesn't it Hoss.

R.I.P. little house

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Oh wait, I thought this corner was where the house used to be.

Actually the house in question (the one with the flag) is the one next door. (I'm a little slow this morning

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Love all those cars and trucks going this way and that.

ethereal_reality · #**36760** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 6:47 PM**

Neat old sign in the valley, circa early 1990s.

old file / possibly ebay

I was surprised to see the sign structure still in place.

google_aerial

The current sign design isn't nearly as fun as the old one.

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While searching for the sign I came across this MASSIVE excavation/pit that I didn't even know was there.

google_aerial

The valley junk sign is circled at left.

The pit is virtually invisible from the surrounding roads.

gsv

You wouldn't even know it was there.

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