Burnaby Updates - Page 174

Spr0ckets · #**3461** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 3:45 AM**

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Has this new proposal from Gensler been posted yet? Just saw it on Dezeen

Gensler designs residential high-rise for British Columbia

Global architecture firm Gensler has released designs for Central Park House, a 41-storey high-rise in Burnaby, Canada, that will feature an off-centre glazed atrium halfway up that contains a swimming pool.

https://www.dezeen.com/2021/07/13/ge...tish-colombia/

It was posted a while back.
A considerable while back so it's hardly 'new'.
(several pages back on this thread)

logan5 · #**3462** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 4:04 AM**

Only 41 stories? That's got to be a really old proposal. Burnaby is handing out density like candy now, so I'm sure we will see some reworked proposal. Though I don't recall this one.

Changing City · #**3463** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 4:55 AM**

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Only 41 stories? That's got to be a really old proposal. Burnaby is handing out density like candy now, so I'm sure we will see some reworked proposal. Though I don't recall this one.

It is old - it's 5977 Wilson from 2018 but Bosa held it for the market to recover. They're selling it, so what you see is what you'll get on this one. I'm pretty sure it's next to Rezoning #21-12 for Bosa Properties from last month. That will have a condo tower and a rental lower tower too, and a maximum of 8.3FSR. Gensler were identified as the architects again, and it's 6031 Wilson. The site sold last year for $35m. There's another Gensler design on Kingsway for a pair of towers for Bosa which could have up to 14.3 FSR, although as we've seen with the Anthem tower it's possible the development won't max out that potential. Gensler now have a Vancouver office, which is presumably why we're starting to see designs from the company.

SpongeG · #**3464** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 6:08 AM**

link here for information on the Burnaby Bainbridge neighbourhood redevelopment

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The City of Burnaby is hosting virtual workshops next week and in August to gather the public’s input on a plan to densify the Bainbridge neighbourhood.

The first event is on July 22 and if you click here, you can register for the event and find out more about what’s proposed as the city moves to phase 2 of its consultations.

Why is this important? Well, it will fundamentally change this neighbourhood forever if it’s approved. You might think in good ways or you might think in bad ways, so let your voice be heard if you want this or you don’t.

https://burnaby.civilspace.io/en/pro...edium=referral

Klazu · #**3465** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 6:21 AM**

I had never heard the name Bainbridge before and don't recall any signs with that name. Now I know a little bit more about my city.

FarmerHaight · #**3466** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 7:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

They have really struggled to rent the retail space along Beresford. Half of the spaces are still empty. It is unfortunate as there is a lot of foot traffic.

When was the last time you walked down Beresford? Gold House is just finishing construction on the commercial spaces and has tenants lined up for the ground floor. Modello has some spaces open but that's the worst location on the block since the BC Parkway veers away and there's no crossing at Willingdon on that corner. Meanwhile Silver and Metroplace have every available space rented out.

Not only are most of the spaces occupied, but a number of business are thriving from what I can see. Mon Paris is busy every morning with a line out the door. Pizza Garden can hardly keep up with the by-the-slice crowd in the evenings. S-Mart is also quite busy.

Klazu · #**3467** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 7:56 PM**

Modello and Silver were completed years ago and only now the retail space is getting fully tenanted. They have really struggled there. I haven't been down there for a week now but are there signs going up for Gold House tenants? There wasn't any sign a week ago but hoping to see those.

Sheba · #**3468** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

I had never heard the name Bainbridge before and don't recall any signs with that name. Now I know a little bit more about my city.

It's where the Saputo dairy plant is - and it's been mentioned on here before.

FYI before anyone asks:

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Bainbridge is one of 13 neighbourhoods designated under Burnaby’s Official Community Plan (OCP) as an Urban Village. In contrast to Burnaby’s Town Centres like Metrotown and Brentwood which are more regionally-focused and feature larger, high-density scales of urban growth and development, Urban Villages provide more moderate multi-family residential densities near locally-serving commercial uses, employment, recreation, schools and other everyday services close-to-home.

GenWhy? · #**3469** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 10:27 PM**

I wonder if there was been a net loss of employment space in Burnaby as residential takes over industrial areas. Or at least it would be interesting to see the type of employment that has shifted. I don't deal in commercial / office in Burnaby, would be interesting to know the City's strategy.

Sheba · #**3470** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 11:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I wonder if there was been a net loss of employment space in Burnaby as residential takes over industrial areas. Or at least it would be interesting to see the type of employment that has shifted. I don't deal in commercial / office in Burnaby, would be interesting to know the City's strategy.

Anecdotally I'd say there hasn't been a net loss but I don't have any stats to prove it. The industrial / warehouse type businesses have been moving down to Big Bend, which is made for that. A lot of towers in the town centres have retail and / or office space in their podiums. Even the Bainbridge plan has plans for some local employment - mostly right near Sperling Burnaby Lake Station and along Lougheed Hwy.

jollyburger · #**3471** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 11:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I wonder if there was been a net loss of employment space in Burnaby as residential takes over industrial areas. Or at least it would be interesting to see the type of employment that has shifted. I don't deal in commercial / office in Burnaby, would be interesting to know the City's strategy.

I guess they still have room to modernize older facilities and it seems like they've increased their industrial base in Big Bend recently. Though I guess some industrial users prefer older buildings that aren't super expensive.

Surprising Burnaby also has 234 hectares of ALR farm land down there.

All the business parks in Burnaby:

https://www.burnaby.ca/Doing-Busines...s-Centres.html

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**3472** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 1:07 AM**

i wonder if high tech will move into Burnaby more. i see a a few talks about high tech business parks mentioned. Lake City Way is one of them. and it looks like nothing has happened in 20yrs. doesn't seem to bode well...

Changing City · #**3473** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 1:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I wonder if there was been a net loss of employment space in Burnaby as residential takes over industrial areas. Or at least it would be interesting to see the type of employment that has shifted. I don't deal in commercial / office in Burnaby, would be interesting to know the City's strategy.

It's hard to say how things have changed in the past few years, but it's possible to look at census data over time from the 1970s to 2016 based on the 'Place of Work' data collected.

That suggests the number of people working in Burnaby has gone up steadily, although not as a proportion of all the jobs in Metro Vancouver.

In 1971 there were around 43,000 jobs, which was 10% of Metro's total employment. In 2001 that had increased to 120,000 jobs, and 12% of Metro's jobs. Since then growth in employment has been much slower. In 2006 there were 5,000 fewer jobs than five years earlier, and in 2011 the total was back to 121,000. The 2016 total was around 127,000 jobs, which is once again 10% of Metro's total employment, and about 30% of the jobs located in the City of Vancouver.

(These numbers are based on allocating the people with 'no fixed workplace' proportionally to where those who have an identified job location say they worked, and it includes those working at home.)

SpongeG · #**3474** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 2:58 AM**

Bainbridge is the name of a street that crosses Lougheed Highway, about a block east of the skytrain. As Sheba said, Saputo is part of the area to be redeveloped as well as the old Telus site that was torn down quite a few years ago now, and had some controversy in its sale that collapsed.

here's a handy video

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jollyburger · #**3475** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 4:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

i wonder if high tech will move into Burnaby more. i see a a few talks about high tech business parks mentioned. Lake City Way is one of them. and it looks like nothing has happened in 20yrs. doesn't seem to bode well...

Well Electronic Arts is probably a success story for Burnaby. It's no different than any other city/state trying to lure firms to open in their city. They either need to throw a lot of benefits their way or have enough tangible benefits for their workers to open up. Just need someone to create a multi-billion dollar company who has an emotional attachment to the city.

FarmerHaight · #**3476** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 6:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Modello and Silver were completed years ago and only now the retail space is getting fully tenanted. They have really struggled there. I haven't been down there for a week now but are there signs going up for Gold House tenants? There wasn't any sign a week ago but hoping to see those.

Yes, Gold House now has signage on the north east corner for a health and wellness centre. It makes sense that filling the commercial spaces on Beresford was a slow burn considering six blocks have been in a state of construction for years.

officedweller · #**3477** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 7:09 PM**

There are a number of high tech companies up the hill from Production Way Station.
A big site near Lake City Station was recently sold, so that may effect change in use farther west.

jollyburger · #**3478** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 8:09 PM**

Seems like 19 acres next to the Lake City station will remain commercial

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Business Centre District, Urban Business Centre
Lands (B2) with a maximum 1.5 FAR and maximum
height of 72 feet (22 meters) and Commercial with
a maximum FAR of 0.05

https://www.collierscanada.com/en-ca...ada/can2003579

1.3 acres across the street sold in January for $12.25 million

https://www.westerninvestor.com/done...r-acre-3832697

Vin · #**3479** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

They have really struggled to rent the retail space along Beresford. Half of the spaces are still empty. It is unfortunate as there is a lot of foot traffic.

That's because the mall and most of the high density retail are on the other side of the skytrain station, and that is where people gravitate towards. Perhaps they should improve on the commercial/retail realm on this side to make it attractive for people to wander over. Then I am sure retailing will become very vibrant along Beresford.

jollyburger · #**3480** Posted **Jul 16, 2021, 8:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

That's because the mall and most of the high density retail are on the other side of the skytrain station, and that is where people gravitate towards. Perhaps they should improve on the commercial/retail realm on this side to make it attractive for people to wander over. Then I am sure retailing will become very vibrant along Beresford.

The shopping mall is destination retail that attracts people from the region. Beresford might have the odd shop that fits that bill but more likely it will just be typical local retail (if they're smart) serves residents in the area. No one is going to walk over when everything they want is inside the mall.