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Old Posted Nov 7, 2018, 7:55 PM
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The fact that a demo like this, and new build, can be done at a profit, absolutely blows my mind.
Agreed! It's a "slow race" between this and the parkade at 1133 Melville - that one's also crawling along, one chunk of concrete at a time, with one or two big cranes occupying three lanes of Melville for months to come. The sq ft costs for the office space must be enormous.
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I don't know why that company would want to advertise their name and services there as this is the slowest demolition in Vancouver. I want this eye sore out of Vancouver ASAP.
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I don't know why that company would want to advertise their name and services there as this is the slowest demolition in Vancouver. I want this eye sore out of Vancouver ASAP.
That's ridiculous. Lol. Do you or people in general know what is all involved in demolishing a structure like this
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 2:41 AM
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I don't know why that company would want to advertise their name and services there as this is the slowest demolition in Vancouver. I want this eye sore out of Vancouver ASAP.


Would you rather it have been an implosion?

I'm sure the residents in the surrounding areas would have loved that -- IF it were even a possibility...
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Would you rather it have been an implosion?
yes, yes i would. i would much prefer that.
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 5:04 AM
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yes, yes i would. i would much prefer that.
Lordy lord, no kidding. Thank the bureaucratic zealots at the city and work safe for deeming implosion to be ungreen and bad for workers.

So instead, the nearby residents have to endure absolutely non-stop thundering noise for an insane number of months. Livable city, my fanny. What a bloody joke.
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 5:23 AM
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According to an article from Daily Hive in March 2018, demolition was to be complete in February 2019. That's only 3 months away. It is suppose to be 1 floor demolished at a rate of every 3 to 5 days. Maybe once the top floor is done it will pick up speed.
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Lordy lord, no kidding. Thank the bureaucratic zealots at the city and work safe for deeming implosion to be ungreen and bad for workers.

So instead, the nearby residents have to endure absolutely non-stop thundering noise for an insane number of months. Livable city, my fanny. What a bloody joke.
Pollution from dust clouds, especially given the size of the building, and the high amount of lead and asbestos in Seventies construction.

I get it, floor-by-floor is tedious, boring and horribly inefficient, but let's not blame the City and developers for being overly cautious - they're the ones who have to foot the bill. The US government's still on the hook for all the 9/11 survivors and first responders who now have health complications after inhaling tower rubble.
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Does anyone have a ballpark guess on how much the demo cost for this is?
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 4:58 PM
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According to an article from Daily Hive in March 2018, demolition was to be complete in February 2019. That's only 3 months away. It is suppose to be 1 floor demolished at a rate of every 3 to 5 days. Maybe once the top floor is done it will pick up speed.
Hehe, I would totally love it of the developer involved in this unnecessary project got burned by escalating demo costs just as the market is tanking!
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Does anyone have a ballpark guess on how much the demo cost for this is?
Every demo is different, but based on projects I’ve worked on and the associated costs I’d hazard a guess of at least $20 million
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Hehe, I would totally love it of the developer involved in this unnecessary project got burned by escalating demo costs just as the market is tanking!
And even if he gets burned, he'll still be rich and you'll still be poor. So you can love it as much as you want, but he'll still have the last laugh.
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And even if he gets burned, he'll still be rich and you'll still be poor. So you can love it as much as you want, but he'll still have the last laugh.

Enjoy those Edmonchuk winters.
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Hehe, I would totally love it of the developer involved in this unnecessary project got burned by escalating demo costs just as the market is tanking!
That's a weird attitude dude.

Celebrating someones failure is never a path to success.

The developer doesn't decide if the project is necessary or not, ultimately Mr. Market will.
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What’s the risk for the developer. They would just stop the development after the demo and wait for an upswing wouldn’t they? The cost of the demo would be fixed wouldn’t it?
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Weird ill-wishes aside....

I am excited to combine legal cannabis with that tunnel. It gonna be a hell of a trip!

And I highly doubt that the developing company is going to suffer much from raising costs. They probably have legal clauses out the hoo-hah that would allow them to stop and renegotiate.
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Pollution from dust clouds, especially given the size of the building, and the high amount of lead and asbestos in Seventies construction.

I get it, floor-by-floor is tedious, boring and horribly inefficient, but let's not blame the City and developers for being overly cautious - they're the ones who have to foot the bill. The US government's still on the hook for all the 9/11 survivors and first responders who now have health complications after inhaling tower rubble.
Sweet Jeebuz, you're trying to compare 9/11 with a controlled demolition? Get a frickin life.

You do realize that all hazardous materials are remediated before implosions are undertaken? No wait, you obviously don't because you don't have a frickin clue about how the industry works.

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Old Posted Nov 10, 2018, 1:01 AM
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Sweet Jeebuz, you're trying to compare 9/11 with a controlled demolition? Get a frickin life.

You do realize that all hazardous materials are remediated before implosions are undertaken? No wait, you obviously don't because you don't have a frickin clue about how the industry works.

And welcome to my ignore list.
Shame, you could've learned something. If a 22-storey implosion creates a dust cloud affecting a 7-8 block radius, and a hospital for 20km, what do you think 42 storeys will do to the West End?

I'm not even including people injured or even killed by flying debris, or how asbestos content can cancel an implosion altogether (unless the company skips it in order to save money). You say "bureaucratic zealotry," I say "avoiding ten years of lawsuits."
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2018, 3:24 AM
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Sweet Jeebuz, you're trying to compare 9/11 with a controlled demolition? Get a frickin life.

You do realize that all hazardous materials are remediated before implosions are undertaken? No wait, you obviously don't because you don't have a frickin clue about how the industry works.

And welcome to my ignore list.
On a personal note, how big is your ignore list? I’ve actually only ignored Chaddilac. Otherwise I can handle it
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2018, 3:41 AM
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According to an article from Daily Hive in March 2018, demolition was to be complete in February 2019. That's only 3 months away. It is suppose to be 1 floor demolished at a rate of every 3 to 5 days. Maybe once the top floor is done it will pick up speed.
There was a Sun article from October and the new date is March 9, 2019.

If they manage to do a floor every 3-5 days that seems doable and 90% of the remediation is completed (maybe 100% by now)

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...m-city-skyline
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