DENVER | Main Development Thread #6 - Page 165

RyanD · #**3281** Posted **Mar 28, 2015, 4:16 PM**

You know... I haven't posted some porn in a long long time. I'm beefing up my Instagram which means I'm re-editing a lot of photos, blah blah blah. So...

17th and Lincoln by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Diamond Hill Sunrise by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

14th and Lincoln by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

City Park Winter by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Foggy Skyline Diamond Hill by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Trains Meet Skyline - Night by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Drive 2 Vantage by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Full Moon meets Bridge by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Trains Meet Skyline - Day by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Skyline with Helicopter Acation by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Four Seasons / The Republic by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Sunrise Highlands by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

Stonemans_rowJ · #**3282** Posted **Mar 28, 2015, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by beattitudeforgains

Terrible waste of historic homes (built in 1925, not "decades ago" as that article states), for want of being one block out of the East 7th Ave Historic District (https://www.denvergov.org/maps/map/historiclandmarks#q=39.726071954309205,-104.98200646558233), and especially given the wealth of surface lots in the area.

btw hi everyone!

Just because a house is old doesn't mean that it should be preserved. I say this as a history buff and lover of historical architecture.

So much of Denver is single family, and for a burgeoning large city, we need to densify. This is a prime assemblage in an area that screams for a higher and better use than single family.

Denver · #**3283** Posted **Mar 28, 2015, 7:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Stonemans_rowJ

Just because a house is old doesn't mean that it should be preserved. I say this as a history buff and lover of historical architecture.

So much of Denver is single family, and for a burgeoning large city, we need to densify. This is a prime assemblage in an area that screams for a higher and better use than single family.

Not to mention that only two buildings were demolished for this project. One of them I believe was not even a house but rather an old office building that was designed to look like a house. This area is changing. While it is good to old onto the past, not everything can be preserved.

seventwenty · #**3284** Posted **Mar 29, 2015, 2:43 AM**

Greatly annoyed that Ryan's worst shot is better than my best. Much better in fact.

RyanD · #**3285** Posted **Mar 29, 2015, 2:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by seventwenty

Greatly annoyed that Ryan's worst shot is better than my best. Much better in fact.

D'awwwwww

seventwenty · #**3286** Posted **Mar 29, 2015, 6:12 PM**

No. Pouting.

TakeFive · #**3287** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 3:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by Stonemans_rowJ

Just because a house is old doesn't mean that it should be preserved. I say this as a history buff and lover of historical architecture.

So much of Denver is single family, and for a burgeoning large city, we need to densify. This is a prime assemblage in an area that screams for a higher and better use than single family.

I wouldn't have minded if these properties had been preserved. I'm sure that Denver's ambitions of density would have survived just fine and carried on.

TakeFive · #**3288** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 4:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by RyanD

You know... I haven't posted some porn in a long long time. I'm beefing up my Instagram which means I'm re-editing a lot of photos, blah blah blah. So...

"Trains meet Skyline - Night" I love it.
"City Park Winter" = my fave.
"17th and Lincoln" is fun partly for its before SkyHouse Denver view
"Full Moon meets Bridge" and a striking Davita

Hardly blah blah blah. So

Denver · #**3289** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 4:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by TakeFive

I wouldn't have minded if these properties had been preserved. I'm sure that Denver's ambitions of density would have survived just fine and carried on.

If you don't mind me asking, when was the last time you actually saw any of those buildings in person? That corner was dead and there was nothing really special about either of them. The building on the corner was particularly bad. They were two old buildings surrounded by parking lots in Denver's urban core. I mean what good does preserving them do for anyone one? Just building a building was already built does not automatically entitle it to preservation.

TakeFive · #**3290** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 1:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denver

If you don't mind me asking, when was the last time you actually saw any of those buildings in person? That corner was dead and there was nothing really special about either of them. The building on the corner was particularly bad. They were two old buildings surrounded by parking lots in Denver's urban core. I mean what good does preserving them do for anyone one? Just building a building was already built does not automatically entitle it to preservation.

Never hurts to ask. It would be quite a long while since I've seen that specific block. I was trying to recall if I had ever been inside the properties and I suspect not.

My preservation preference would be specific to the 1925 (era) buildings and not the others. I think urban areas are enhanced by having both old and new.

The best comparison I might make is that I was familiar with the buildings along the west side of the 1900 block of Logan Street where Alexan Uptown is being built. Not sure I had been inside all of the properties but most. Those were pretty crappy buildings as I recall. I think many had poor foundations from which to preserve. That block is within walking distance of downtown of course.

I do have a high regard for property rights so I was only expressing a preference. I would also suggest that a new high density project may be a solid addition to the neighborhood or it might not. I have no opinion, presently on what is to be built.

mojiferous · #**3291** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 2:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by TakeFive

The best comparison I might make is that I was familiar with the buildings along the west side of the 1900 block of Logan Street where Alexan Uptown is being built.

Were you thinking the east side of Logan where the condo tower is, or maybe the Grant side where the empty retail (I think it used to be Mod Livin' before they moved to Colfax) and a couple older apartment buildings are?

The site of the Alexan Uptown has been a parking lot for as long as I can recall, even when St. Luke's and the main Cathedral High School buildings were still around.

TakeFive · #**3292** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 2:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by mojiferous

Were you thinking the east side of Logan where the condo tower is, or maybe the Grant side where the empty retail (I think it used to be Mod Livin' before they moved to Colfax) and a couple older apartment buildings are?

The site of the Alexan Uptown has been a parking lot for as long as I can recall, even when St. Luke's and the main Cathedral High School buildings were still around.

Haha, interesting question. I could be recalling Grant Street (west side). I wasn't admittedly so familiar that I can recall both streets specifically.

beattitudeforgains · #**3293** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 3:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denver

Not to mention that only two buildings were demolished for this project. One of them I believe was not even a house but rather an old office building that was designed to look like a house. This area is changing. While it is good to old onto the past, not everything can be preserved.

Sorry to not be clear, we're talking about two different things here. The one at 7th and Sherman by Martine's I'm all for! That was a terrible 50s commerical building (justifiably razed) and one older home. The other one is on Grant from 7th to the Coldwell Banker building, nearly a whole block of old homes currently being used as offices.

TakeFive · #**3294** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 3:59 PM**

panethos.wordpress.com

That's a map of Denver neighborhoods.

What's even more interesting is:

"Unofficial guide to hipsterhoods of the Mountain West"
Posted on March 28, 2015 by problogic

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For this post, my definition of Mountain West includes the states of Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming. College towns that are largely hipster havens are listed without specific neighborhoods unless they have been identified during research.

Denver · #**3295** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 4:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by beattitudeforgains

Sorry to not be clear, we're talking about two different things here. The one at 7th and Sherman by Martine's I'm all for! That was a terrible 50s commerical building (justifiably razed) and one older home. The other one is on Grant from 7th to the Coldwell Banker building, nearly a whole block of old homes currently being used as offices.

Gotcha Gotcha. I have mix feelings about that one. I do agree that they should be preserved. At the same time I have never liked the idea of houses being used for office buildings so I am a little conflicted.

DownhomeDenver · #**3296** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denver

Gotcha Gotcha. I have mix feelings about that one. I do agree that they should be preserved. At the same time I have never liked the idea of houses being used for office buildings so I am a little conflicted.

What we should've fought to preserve in this area is long gone. These are very cute craftsmans but they hold no architectural significance.

With that said, here's something to whet the appetite:

Welton Park Apartments
2015D00079
2200 Welton
D-AS
Muti-Family Residential
Greg Savage

This is potentially a block long development of nasty parking lots and an old industrial building along Welton and Park Avenue.

DownhomeDenver · #**3297** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 5:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by DenverInfill

The renderings look great.

Was it really necessary to rub this in our face? LOL. Will we see these renderings posted on DI at any point this year?

DenverInfill · #**3298** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 5:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by DownhomeDenver

Was it really necessary to rub this in our face? LOL. Will we see these renderings posted on DI at any point this year?

As soon as the developer or architect say it's OK.

TakeFive · #**3299** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 7:02 PM**

Let's hear from the Loo's section

per giphy.com

Looks like Denver may want their own Loo's at least according to the DBJ:

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The Denver Post reports a public hearing is scheduled for April 11 to consider input into the idea of replicating an idea already in use in some cities. Portland, Oregon, for instance, has set up eight "Portland Loo" public toilets in its downtown.

per citylab.com

John Metcalfe at City Lab has done the research.

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For the residents of Portland, Ore., taking a whiz in a public toilet is not just a matter of necessity. It’s an act of civic pride. That’s because the city is home to the Portland Loo, a unique, patented outdoor bathroom that inspires such worship in its fanbase you’d think that Steve Jobs himself had designed it.

When a loo hater set one ablaze last June, Facebook denizens flocked to its defense. "The Portland Loos rock! What other city can boast public restrooms that are fire proof.

" wrote Laura Mears, while Charlie Clint chimed in with, "I'm always sending someone to use one of these – and it's great to hear how sturdy they are! (woo hoo)."

Who will be the first in Denver to print T-shirts that say "Love a Loo."

DownhomeDenver · #**3300** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 8:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by DenverInfill

As soon as the developer or architect say it's OK.

Where is that damn eye roll emoticon!! Oh wait, here it is

I hope you realize I'm kidding...