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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 5:56 PM
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Closing Riverview in 2012 was a ‘mistake’, former attorney general tells safety forum

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A one-day event addressing provincewide public safety concerns was held in Vancouver on Thursday.

Organized by Save Our Streets (SOS), a coalition of businesses and community groups, the Communities Driving Change forum features panels consisting of experts on policy, housing and addiction.

Many incidents of random street violence in Vancouver have been tied to mental health issues, Vancouver police chief Adam Palmer told the forum.

“If somebody is that severely addicted or mentally ill, this is where I agree with the idea of secure mandatory care,” Palmer said. “There’s compassionate care, many other names, but there are some people that are not safe for us, or for themselves to be in community and that’s not compassionate society, that’s not a safe society.”

One of the topics raised at the event on Thursday was the 2012 closure of Riverview Hospital.

Former B.C. Attorney General Wally Oppal said that in retrospect, it was the wrong decision.

“There was a thinking at the time, I guess, that the best way to treat people was in the community,” he said.

“The problem is, the community suffered by virtue of the experiment, and I call it an experiment at the time, the shutdown of Riverview. I think with 2020 hindsight, it was a mistake.”

SOS said the issues it raised when the group formed in 2023 have yet to be addressed by the province.

“It feels like there’s a bit of classism that we’re allowing this permissive environment, repeat chronic offenders with violent histories to continue to impact the safety in our communities,” Clint Mahlman, co-founder of SOS and president and CEO of London Drugs told Global News.

“For us, it’s about protecting our employees, service workers, and ensuring our business community and organizations thrive throughout the province.”

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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 6:16 PM
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I mean the history of the institution made it easy for something that people wanted to get away from.

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By the 1980s, the hospital was actively being downsized for two reasons: a belief patients belonged in community rather than warehoused and out of sight, and the government deciding it was financially better as well.

“Government policy at the time was to have psychiatric services developed in the acute care hospitals like Vancouver General and St. Paul’s (hospitals),” said Dr. John Higenbottam, a clinical professor of psychiatry at UBC who was vice president of clinical programs at Riverview Hospital from 1980 to 1992.

He described orders from the then-NDP government in Victoria where “they actually gave the hospital quotas on the numbers of patients to discharge to the community, so it didn’t matter what they’re needs were – basically, get ’em out.”

Both Higenbottam and Morrow said there were insufficient supports at the time, backed up by a 1994 Ombudsman’s office report noting “transition issues around discharge planning.”

“I saw it hundreds and hundreds of times,” said McCardell. “The government said ‘We have all these places set up for them.’ They lied. They didn’t have all these places set up for them.”

Despite that, plans continued to wind down the hospital and discharge patients through the 1990s, and the BC Liberals carried on closure plans when they came into power. Morrow tracked bed-to-bed transfers of the final wave of patients to other facilities leading to Riverview’s full closure in 2012.
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He described orders from the then-NDP government in Victoria where “they actually gave the hospital quotas on the numbers of patients to discharge to the community, so it didn’t matter what they’re needs were – basically, get ’em out
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 10:28 PM
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History repeating itself.

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While Harcourt decries the dysfunction of the Downtown Eastside, he won’t brook any suggestion that the NDP was complicit in aggravating its problems by proceeding to deinstitutionalize Riverview before sufficient community-based alternative housing was in place. He sets out a variety of federal and provincial decisions that “allowed the problem to get away from us,” but he doesn’t labour those issues. “It doesn’t matter who did what when,” he says. “To solve homelessness you build homes.”

However, Harcourt says he doesn’t think new social housing should be built in the Downtown Eastside -- only replacement housing. And he believes we need to think not so much of the small Downtown Eastside so much as the larger East Downtown.

Harcourt declares that we need to spread facilities to care for the addicted, the mentally ill and the homeless around the city, and decries the opposition in Dunbar to proposed social housing there. “These are your kids,” he says to those who loudly opposed the plan.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 11:31 PM
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For those who like to throw around the “violent crime is down” mantra:

…. retailers are becoming increasingly alarmed about threats to customers and staff, who have been assaulted during robberies even when they do not attempt to intervene. Executives say they have seen thieves collide with bystanders, including children, as they flee. Some culprits pose as customers and ask for a display case to be unlocked. They then empty the shelves, sometimes assaulting the employee or threatening them with weapons such as hammers and knives.

“Retailers across the country are experiencing a rise in violent incidents, threats and increasingly aggressive behaviour,” Darrell Jones, long-time president of Pattison Food Group, wrote in an e-mail to The Globe and Mail. “In fact, I have never seen anything like this in my nearly 50 years in the grocery industry…


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business...ng-a-91-billion-problem-organized-theft/
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2025, 3:31 PM
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Six months so he'll be out by next month.

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A Vancouver man who tagged himself “the sheriff of Kitsilano” has been jailed for six months on convictions for assaults, uttering death threats and causing a disturbance.

Vancouver Provincial Court Judge Nancy Adams sentenced Paul Henry Desroches, 51, Friday after deciding his lack of willingness to listen to authorities did not make him a candidate for a conditional sentence order (CSO) to be served in the community.

She ruled out community work service to give back to the community because “he doesn’t seem to think he needs to give anything back.”

Adams dismissed a CSO as, “he would just be living his life as he does now.”

And that, she said, would not address the sentencing principles of denunciation and deterrence.

Desroches had pleaded guilty in two instances while Adams found him guilty on others.

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Adams said that on April 16, 2024, Desroches assaulted a bus driver in Vancouver after the driver had witnessed him making racists slurs toward an elderly South Asian couple.

Desroches spat in the driver’s face, Adams said. The incident was caught on the bus security video.

Police said Desroches was highly intoxicated when arrested later that day.

He pleaded guilty to assault in that case. Adams said Desroches claimed he did not remember the incident.

Restaurant beating
Desroches was also charged with assault causing bodily harm, and uttering a threat to cause death or bodily harm to a man in Vancouver Dec. 13, 2022.


Adams said the victim was speaking with an elderly woman in a restaurant when Desroches began verbally accosting the woman. The man asked him to stop.

Desroches reacted by pinning the man to a seat and then delivered “10-20 full-force blows to the head,” according to the judge.

At that point, Desroches interrupted.

“There’s no video footage, which is very convenient,” he said.

Adams later said Desroches had reported he had only hit the victims four times “as hard as he could.”

The victim suffered a concussion. Adams said he was a handyman who did work for several condominium buildings in the area for which he was given housing.

As a result of his injuries, the man could no longer work.

“As a consequence, he lost his employment . . . and he lost his housing,” Adams said.

The man now has trouble walking and balance problems.

Adams said Desroches and the victim were somewhat known to each other.

And, she said, Desroches had admitted to being a “jerk.”

Adams said the Crown prosecutor had called the attack a “significant assault on a stranger for no point whatsoever.”

The judge called it “gratuitous violence” which left a significant impact on the victim’s life.

“He believes he’s allowed to express his anger if provoked,” she said.

Screaming in Kitsilano
In connection with a Jan. 23, 2024, incident in Vancouver’s Kitsilano neighbourhood, Desroches was charged with causing a disturbance and uttering a threat to cause death or bodily harm to a man.

Police had responded to a call of a man yelling and screaming on the 200-block of West Fifth Avenue.

Responding to the call, police found Desroches and arrested him, Adams said.

The court had heard that the yelling and screaming would go on “all hours of the day and night” and that the neighbours had had enough of it.

The homeless Desroches had been living in a stairwell in the neighbourhood.

Alcohol problems
Adams said, by all accounts Desroches had a significant drinking problem, something he had referred to as “psycho drinking” while being assessed.

Desroches had been in hospital repeatedly in 2023 at which point he had been having 67 drinks a day. He’s now down to 13 drinks a day.

Adams said Desroches has refused alcohol treatment as he doesn’t want to sit around and listen to other people’s stories.

She said Desroches won’t sober up until he’s ready.

“The community needs him to do that,” she said.
https://www.nsnews.com/highlights/self-p...-for-vancouver-assaults-threats-10128570
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Six months, what a pathetic joke.
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Six months, what a pathetic joke.
Exactly... this is far less than the maximum.. which would seem justified in this case.

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Old Posted Jan 25, 2025, 7:57 PM
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She said Desroches won’t sober up until he’s ready.


Moron.
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Should have spent more time processing his visa instead of protesting...
And Buh-bye...


British Columbia-based environmental activist Zain Haq was aboard a plane in Toronto on Sunday afternoon, awaiting a nearly 14-hour flight to Pakistan, where he said he was looking forward to seeing his family and eating the food.

But Haq was not on the plane by choice. He was being deported following the expiry of a temporary residency permit and a failed bid by his Canadian wife to sponsor him to stay. The couple had been living together in Vancouver.

Still, Haq said he was "feeling at peace" with his fate.

"I'm looking forward to whatever the next years are (going to) look like," he said, as other passengers boarded the flight to Karachi on Sunday...


https://www.nationalobserver.com/2025/01...-bc-old-growth-logging-deported-pakistan
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some guy was outside his building in yaletown having a smoke and some couple came up to him and the guy got stabbed multiple times, and is recovering in the hospital, the stabber was arrested and released as they are not allowed to hold him longer than 24 hours? wtf

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/02/04/yaletown-stabbing-18-year-old-charged/
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A 34-year-old man was arrested by #VPD today after he brought a makeshift weapon into a fast food restaurant near Robson and Richards. Officers responded to a 9-1-1- call around 9 a.m., after the suspect was seen behaving erratically and allegedly assaulted another customer.

Police arrested the suspect, who also had an outstanding warrant from Winnipeg. He is currently in custody and facing criminal charges. Nobody was injured during the incident.


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The man Macgyvered a freaking halberd spear.
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I'm having a massive Archer flashback right now.
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Rob Shaw: NDP's safe-supply gaslighting collapses under leaked government report

Two years after saying it wasn’t happening, a year after arguing there was no evidence, and nine months after promising to maybe start tracking the issue, the BC NDP government finally admitted this week that yes, a huge amount of its safe supply prescription drugs are finding their hands into criminals and fuelling an underground network of drug trafficking.

Sort of.

The government would probably still be trying to artfully dodge the whole issue if it wasn’t for the fact BC Conservative MLA Elenore Sturko got her hands on an internal Ministry of Health presentation that laid out the situation pretty clearly.

“A significant portion of the opioids being freely prescribed by doctors and pharmacists are not being consumed by their intended recipients,” read the report, written by a ministry investigative unit and shared with police.

“Prescribed alternatives are trafficked provincially, nationally and internationally.”

By this point, you’d either have to be living under a rock, or be an elected member of the BC NDP caucus, to not already know how big a problem diverted safe supply has become.

“The NDP and their bureaucrats spent years downplaying the extent and harms of their taxpayer funded drug trafficking,” Sturko posted on social media, after releasing the new presentation.

“Now they are shifting the blame and patting themselves on the back — shameful.”
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Why is this written like an opinion piece?
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2025, 11:42 PM
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Why is this written like an opinion piece?
He's a columnist.

Here's a CP article on the report

https://globalnews.ca/news/11005999/bc-safe-supply-diversion/
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He's a columnist.

Here's a CP article on the report

https://globalnews.ca/news/11005999/bc-safe-supply-diversion/
Ah, sorry, I haven't read newspapers in a while but I assume they still stuck all the opinion pieces in the "Opinion" section. I was a little confused but assumed that's just now they do news now online.
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Ah, sorry, I haven't read newspapers in a while but I assume they still stuck all the opinion pieces in the "Opinion" section. I was a little confused but assumed that's just now they do news now online.
Huh? It isn't an OpEd, it is a news story.
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