[Moncton] Infinity | Harper & Main & Bateau | 104m | 30 Storeys | Proposed - Page 16

MonctonRad · #**301** Posted **Apr 5, 2025, 3:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by Riberview

Icon has a potential problem on their Infinity site.. the pilings are sinking as the ground is quite silty.. prepare for significant delay.

I would also like to know where this information comes from.

The pilings went down pretty deep. I was also under the impression they reached bedrock (otherwise, what was the point).

The soil conditions here probably aren't that much different than the Gateway Towers, and that project is happening (although 17 storeys vs 30 storeys might make a difference).

More information please.............

Riberview · #**302** Posted **Apr 5, 2025, 12:34 PM**

That information is all I have related to this one. And came from someone with some knowledge of all potential projects for the city..

In the same update given to me, were some other projects in the pipeline. Hopefully they see the light of day, because wow.

MonctonRad · #**303** Posted **Apr 5, 2025, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riberview

In the same update given to me, were some other projects in the pipeline. Hopefully they see the light of day, because wow.

You're just teasing us now.

new kid in town · #**304** Posted **Apr 5, 2025, 3:44 PM**

Oof I much personally not hear about stuff that won't likely come to fruition, but boy am I intrigued.

WhipperSnapper · #**305** Posted **Apr 5, 2025, 3:56 PM**

Sinking foundational piles? Doesn't make sense. The released permit should have required a geotechnical analysis that would have said, "hell ya; the ground is silty"

Riberview · #**306** Posted **Apr 5, 2025, 6:14 PM**

I agree it doesn't make sense. I found the information very surprising. Disappointing as I thought that project was just waiting on the trades and cranes from Riverview...

As for teasing, MonctonRad, I would never! Haha. I wish I had more info. I relay what I have when I get it and will continue to do so for the betterment of society as a whole.

Monctoncore · #**307** Posted **Apr 5, 2025, 7:12 PM**

My only confusion about this is that the land is the same across the majority of downtown. if a building like Assumption can stand, then I can’t see why this project wouldn’t. It’s just odd that only this one section would be so much worse than the rest.

jonny golden · #**308** Posted **Apr 5, 2025, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Monctoncore

My only confusion about this is that the land is the same across the majority of downtown. if a building like Assumption can stand, then I can’t see why this project wouldn’t. It’s just odd that only this one section would be so much worse than the rest.

And what would be the point of pile driving if not to test the soil conditions so they could pre-plan the whole project? I thought they were testing to see how deep it is to hit bedrock as info for their engineers.

jonny golden · #**309** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 12:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by Riberview

That information is all I have related to this one. And came from someone with some knowledge of all potential projects for the city..

In the same update given to me, were some other projects in the pipeline. Hopefully they see the light of day, because wow.

Riberview, Did you hear anything about Saint Bernard's Place by any chance? Thanks.

Riberview · #**310** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 2:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by jonny golden

Riberview, Did you hear anything about Saint Bernard's Place by any chance? Thanks.

Sorry, did not come up. Only Infinity was specifically mentioned. The 'pipeline' I wrote of earlier was short on specifics (location, names, etc) but did list multiple VERY tall buildings.

It was a wow moment for me. I am looking forward to specifics.

riverviewer · #**311** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 12:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Sinking foundational piles? Doesn't make sense. The released permit should have required a geotechnical analysis that would have said, "hell ya; the ground is silty"

What if the bedrock there is a smooth slope and the pilings are sliding down sideways because the silt is too soft to hold them vertical.

Disappointing no matter what the problem.

Leroy321 · #**312** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 12:45 PM**

how would they fix this problem?

sailor734 · #**313** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 1:10 PM**

So, questions are.........
1. Is there actually a problem?
2. If so, what is it?
3. Is it fixable and is so at what cost?
4. If sub soil issues preclude a highrise what could be built there?

I'm curious to know the history of this land. What sort of structures were there in the past?

Leroy321 · #**314** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 1:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riberview

That information is all I have related to this one. And came from someone with some knowledge of all potential projects for the city..

In the same update given to me, were some other projects in the pipeline. Hopefully they see the light of day, because wow.

When would you think announcements will happen for these projects? How many separate building will there be that you heard of?

Riberview · #**315** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 5:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by sailor734

So, questions are.........
1. Is there actually a problem?
2. If so, what is it?
3. Is it fixable and is so at what cost?
4. If sub soil issues preclude a highrise what could be built there?

I'm curious to know the history of this land. What sort of structures were there in the past?

I've got a picture from a Facebook group named "old monton photos".. picture is from mid 1980s..

Shows a combination of 2 storey houses and 1 to storey warehouse/garage type on Harper Street.

MonctonRad · #**316** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 6:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riberview

I've got a picture from a Facebook group named "old monton photos".. picture is from mid 1980s..

Shows a combination of 2 storey houses and 1 to storey warehouse/garage type on Harper Street.

I'm sure we can do better than that!

Monctoncore · #**317** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 10:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I'm sure we can do better than that!

Maybe this is true, but I have a hard time believing that this development couldn’t happen. With assumption building, the blue cross, the three sisters and even the U de M residence all built on similar soil, i can’t imagine a project being stopped. Look at Manhattan it was a swamp.

jonny golden · #**318** Posted **Apr 6, 2025, 11:37 PM**

The bottom line is that we just don't know what's going on, and who knows if ICON will go public with any info regarding potential problems with the project. They're supposed to be having a new web site coming on line this month - that would be an ideal way to communicate info to the public. (If they choose to do so)

Sandbagger · #**319** Posted **Apr 7, 2025, 4:10 PM**

Was no testing ever done when Valmond Robichaud had plan after plan that never materialized on this block? Seems like if there were something there it would be known already long before getting to this point in development.

MonctonRad · #**320** Posted **Apr 7, 2025, 4:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sandbagger

Was no testing ever done when Valmond Robichaud had plan after plan that never materialized on this block? Seems like if there were something there it would be known already long before getting to this point in development.

Nothing beyond cursory testing. ICON has been much more rigorous, driving pilings deep into the ground (to bedrock). This was last year, and there has been no mention since that there was a problem. I am quite certain that there is no engineering reason why Infinity cannot proceed. Trumpian economics and decreasing immigration may be an issue though.