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J.OT13 · #**3141** Posted **Oct 29, 2013, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Radster

And lastly, why did they remove a big chunk of the North Side roof?

The way it was built, it's sort of like stretching your arm out and holding a weight. You can do it for a while, but eventually your arm gives out. It's a similar scenario for the beams holding up the North Side roof; they're stretching out, sort of freestanding, to hold the roof. After 46 years, they had to relieve the pressure by cutting back the roof.

I'm sure they could have done something to keep the full roof, maybe add bracing, but they probably opted to cut it back for financial reasons.

Umpaidh · #**3142** Posted **Oct 29, 2013, 7:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by citizen4829

This link will give you a good explanation of the advantages of low-e glass coating and how they work in keeping a home cooler in summer and warmer in winter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eFOFNevRcI

I see what you are saying, but this is what I was referring to:

http://www.ppg.com/corporate/ideascapes/glass/resources/bulletins/Pages/FAQs.aspx#15

The different placement affects the optimal result, not the angle of the sun.

Radster · #**3143** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 3:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

radster wrote

I suppose the type of roof in Europe would depend on where it is. A lot different in Scandinavia, where the snow load is a problem, than in sunny Italy and Spain.
The roof on the Big Owe in Montreal was designed by a European and we have seen how well that has worked out.

Doesn't matter where the stadium is in Europe, most of the new ones constructed have covered seating. For the ones in snowy areas, which includes Scandinavia, Northern Europe (Poland, Germany, etc), even Italy, their roofs have heating systems that prevent snow buildup. Not talking about complete roofs like the one Big Owe has, just covered seating, while the field remains under the sky.

Anyway, I agree, me too weather doesn't stop me from going to a game and enjoying myself, but you have to admit, for smaller market sports, like 2nd division soccer, even MLS, bad weather and no protection from the elements, does affect attendance. Lets hope in Ottawa it won't. My buddy and I are on the season ticket list for Ottawa Fury FC and will go regardless of the weather, we are psyched! I was simply sharing my opinion about the new south side stands, that I like their look, but not completely sold on it due to a very minimalist roof.

Andy Zagg · #**3144** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 6:03 PM**

Can I ask for some opinions on the town homes and "terrace homes" as I'm considering buying into this project?

I love the location. It's great to be near the canal and the retail and I'll be a season ticket holder of the RedBlacks. As a dog owner I much prefer these to the condo towers (it's easier to get out for a walk).

I was hoping to get some different opinions on them from this wise group though.

Thanks for any thoughts.

nredding · #**3145** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 6:20 PM**

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Can I ask for some opinions on the town homes and "terrace homes" as I'm considering buying into this project?

Hard to have an opinion until we see the prices. They're having a launch on Saturday so I guess prices will be available then.

There are artists impressions of the townhomes and terrace homes on the Minto website.

Andy Zagg · #**3146** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by nredding

Hard to have an opinion until we see the prices. They're having a launch on Saturday so I guess prices will be available then.

There are artists impressions of the townhomes and terrace homes on the Minto website.

What would you predict the prices to be is another good way to look at it. They say they start in the mid 300. I was thinking 350-550 for the terrace homes and 600-800 for the townhomes. I'll give a prize to however is closest.

Shalaby · #**3147** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 6:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Andy Zagg

What would you predict the prices to be is another good way to look at it. They say they start in the mid 300. I was thinking 350-550 for the terrace homes and 600-800 for the townhomes. I'll give a prize to however is closest.

There will be one or two awkwardly laid out terrace homes at around 360 and they'll reach 700. The Town homes will be 750-1.5 mil.

Shalaby · #**3148** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 7:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by nredding

Hard to have an opinion until we see the prices. They're having a launch on Saturday so I guess prices will be available then.

There are artists impressions of the townhomes and terrace homes on the Minto website.

Any more info on this launch? Is it something anyone can attend?

Andy Zagg · #**3149** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 7:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Shalaby

Any more info on this launch? Is it something anyone can attend?

You need to register, but you can still do so through the minto lansdowne site.

umbria27 · #**3150** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 8:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Andy Zagg

What would you predict the prices to be is another good way to look at it. They say they start in the mid 300. I was thinking 350-550 for the terrace homes and 600-800 for the townhomes. I'll give a prize to however is closest.

For comparison purposes, there's a 1700 sq. ft ground floor unit in a Hobin designed 3 unit condo on Brown's inlet listed at 1.1 mil.

Glenlivet Ave · #**3151** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 8:16 PM**

Have they sent out email invitations to the launch? I registered on their website but didn't receive anything.

I was told by the Minto sales person that the lower level terrace homes will start at below 400k and upper level terrace homes start at under 500k for the 1060ft2 model.

YOWetal · #**3152** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 8:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by umbria27

For comparison purposes, there's a 1700 sq. ft ground floor unit in a Hobin designed 3 unit condo on Brown's inlet listed at 1.1 mil.

Where have you seen this?

Andy Zagg · #**3153** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Glenlivet Ave

Have they sent out email invitations to the launch? I registered on their website but didn't receive anything.

I was told by the Minto sales person that the lower level terrace homes will start at below 400k and upper level terrace homes start at under 500k for the 1060ft2 model.

I received an email last week. You may want to pop by the sales office.

YOWetal · #**3154** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 8:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Andy Zagg

What would you predict the prices to be is another good way to look at it. They say they start in the mid 300. I was thinking 350-550 for the terrace homes and 600-800 for the townhomes. I'll give a prize to however is closest.

There are townhouses already available in the Rideau (Bank/Canal) building. The prices there would put the cheapest townhouse at more like 800k.

www.minto.com/ottawa/Glebe-new-condos/Rideau/collections/Rideau.html

Holmwood is certainly less desirable for several reasons (2 biggest being: further from canal, north only windows) but I would be surprised if the 1400 sq townhouse is less than $700k. I would think the largest (almost 2000 sqft) would be $950k ish.

That said the Rideau townhouses have not sold well at all, so these might be priced closer to your estimate if they want to actually move them.

YOWetal · #**3155** Posted **Oct 30, 2013, 8:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Shalaby

There will be one or two awkwardly laid out terrace homes at around 360 and they'll reach 700. The Town homes will be 750-1.5 mil.

You sound like you have inside information? But, 750-1.5 mil makes no sense as the largest (+/-2000 Sq Ft) is not even 50% bigger than the smallest (+/-1400 sq Ft).

umbria27 · #**3156** Posted **Oct 31, 2013, 4:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by YOWetal

Where have you seen this?

Jogged past it the other day, then looked it up on MLS. It's nearing completion. They seem to be using copper for some of the exterior finishes, nice touch. MLS listing has the layout. Great location too if you have a million to spare.
Say what you will about the Glebe, but it does attract some high value infill. Not all of it significantly increases density though. A lot of the infill are very big single family homes, but there are occasional singles that are bulldozed and replaced by towns. I think this location was formerly a house converted to apartments, so again not an increase in density, but a definite increase in building quality.

Shalaby · #**3157** Posted **Oct 31, 2013, 12:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by YOWetal

You sound like you have inside information? But, 750-1.5 mil makes no sense as the largest (+/-2000 Sq Ft) is not even 50% bigger than the smallest (+/-1400 sq Ft).

Ha, that's what I was going for- but I have no such information. I was just pulling those number out of my butt, in fact you seem to know much more than me because I wasn't sure of the square footage. That was pure speculation on my part based on a glance of the renderings and the occasional read of this thread, I'm sure I'm way off. I haven't really looked at the site, but I think I might attend this launch on Saturday.

nredding · #**3158** Posted **Nov 1, 2013, 2:20 PM**

There's an article in the Citizen about the Holmwood town homes with some pricing information.

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A big part of the allure is the price. A stacked two-bedroom townhome of about 1,000 square feet will cost in the low $400,000s. A 2,000-square-foot, three-bedroom, 3.5-storey town will sell for about $650,000. Prices like that are hard to find in the Glebe.

http://www.househunting.ca/homes/buffer/9107273/story.html

The prices per square foot are considerably less than the Rideau town homes.

YOWetal · #**3159** Posted **Nov 1, 2013, 3:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by nredding

There's an article in the Citizen about the Holmwood town homes with some pricing information.

http://www.househunting.ca/homes/buffer/9107273/story.html

The prices per square foot are considerably less than the Rideau town homes.

Interesting article. A few errors and the prices quoted seem a bit strange as the price per Sq Ft is dramatically different. If the prices are correct I think they will sell reasonably well despite the many drawbacks, and the softness in the condo market.

EdFromOttawa · #**3160** Posted **Nov 1, 2013, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by YOWetal

Interesting article. A few errors and the prices quoted seem a bit strange as the price per Sq Ft is dramatically different. If the prices are correct I think they will sell reasonably well despite the many drawbacks, and the softness in the condo market.

Gahhh I hate fridays.

Always takes the city too damn long to publish the picture update...