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Vickers says the Tin Can Beach proposal could tie in to the proposed uptown developments. During his presentation, he showed enhanced photos that show trees lining the proposed Harbour Passage extension from Water Street to Tin Can Beach. There would be lookout stations at Tin Can Beach, similar to the one along Chesley Drive, he said, and possibly a pedestrian wharf that could extend into the harbour.
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This reallly needs to be filled in.... ugly!
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If I remember correctly, we had a discussion some weeks ago about who the architect for the Irving HQ would be. Well I can't recall if anyone else had ever mentioned who it was, so I will do it now.

The architect that Irving Oil has hired is Robert A.M. Stern Architects, and judging by their previous office building work (http://www.ramsa.com/projectslist.aspx?cat=6) I don't think we have much to worry about when it comes to ensuring a top-class design for Long Wharf.
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SAINT JOHN - As groups and individuals made presentations before common council Monday night on the question of the possible sale of the Lantic Sugar refinery site to Irving Oil, the Irving company released the results of a recent public opinion survey that shows overwhelming support for the proposed deal.

A survey of 400 adult residents of Greater Saint John, conducted Aug. 1-6, shows that 85 per cent support the deal, while seven per cent oppose it and eight per cent are undecided or don't know.

The survey, conducted by Halifax-based Thinkwell Research, showed a total of 43 per cent of respondents said they strongly support the deal, while a further 42 per cent support it.

Four per cent said they oppose the proposal and three per cent are strongly opposed.

The survey, which has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 per cent, 19 times out of 20, is contained in an information binder that was provided to members of council Friday and to media outlets Monday.

The binder also contains conceptual drawings of the proposed $30-million Irving Oil global headquarters and answers to what the company calls frequently asked questions.

The proposed deal would see Irving Oil purchase the former sugar refinery site and then turn it over to the Saint John Port Authority in return for a 99-year lease on Long Wharf, where the Irving Oil headquarters would be built. Irving Oil would own the land on which its headquarters would sit and the company would lease the surrounding area from the port authority, which would retain control of its secondary cruise ship berth.

The deal is opposed by groups such as Local 273 of the International Longshoremen's Association and the Saint John and District Labour Council. Proponents include the port authority, the Saint John Board of Trade and many local business owners and developers.
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If I remember correctly, we had a discussion some weeks ago about who the architect for the Irving HQ would be. Well I can't recall if anyone else had ever mentioned who it was, so I will do it now.

The architect that Irving Oil has hired is Robert A.M. Stern Architects, and judging by their previous office building work (http://www.ramsa.com/projectslist.aspx?cat=6) I don't think we have much to worry about when it comes to ensuring a top-class design for Long Wharf.
That's a really nice portfolio including the Comcast Center in Philly. Anyone with a brain can see how big for this is for the city, hence the overwhelming support.
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very, very nice models...the structure should fit in nicely next to the cruise terminal .... kinda classy....
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This reallly needs to be filled in.... ugly!
That picture was taken with the tide out which is why it looks so bad, but what you're proposing filling in is Tin Can beach.

I expect a lot of people don't know it exists - I didn't before this was posted. Done right, this might be a nice "quality of life" spot for South End residents.
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I was surprised a number of years ago when I heard there was a beach in the South End. I'm just as surprised to know it's still there; I thought it had been filled in.

It looks kinda ugly from above but I imagine it's nice at ground level. I like kwajo's concept.
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It's sign of the times

Published Thursday August 14th, 2008
Development Appearance of construction crane(yet another indicator(of hot local economy
Dave MacLean
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SAINT JOHN - Sightings of construction cranes in Saint John have been so rare in the past decade the devices were thought to be on the endangered species list.


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A crane sits on the site where St. Paul’s (Valley) Church used to be located. The crane is helping build a new hotel at 369 Rockland Road.


But a large crane has been sighted this week just north of the Saint John Throughway - yet another sign that the local economy is starting to sizzle in anticipation of a number of large-scale energy-related projects.

The crane has been erected at the future home of a 112-room hotel that is being built by prominent Moncton-area businessman Bernard Cyr.

Cyr, one of three inductees who will enter the New Brunswick Business Hall of Fame this year, appeared before common council earlier this year at a public hearing that cleared the way for rezoning of the property for a hotel at the site of the former St. Paul's (Valley) Church at 369 Rockland Rd.

At the time, former councillor Glen Tait said he supported the rezoning and the hotel project, but wondered if Cyr had given any consideration to a development at the north of Union site. Cyr noted that he hadn't, but was willing to talk to city staff about options near the site of the new provincial justice facility and municipal police headquarters.

Cyr said Wednesday that he preferred not to comment at this time, but expects to be holding a press conference to formally announce the project in the next three weeks.

In an interview earlier last month about his induction into the provincial business shrine, Cyr said he would be announcing "our biggest project to date within a month, in the city of Saint John."

He is well-known in Moncton business circles as the owner of the luxurious Chateau Moncton that overlooks the Petitcodiac River in the city's downtown and the owner and franchisor of the Dooly's Group, which owns and operates more than 75 billiards facilities in seven provinces.

If the Saint John hotel follows the example Cyr has set with the Chateau Moncton template, patrons will be able to expect rooms that are 30 to 40 per cent larger than standard hotel rooms, plus in-room coffee and high-speed Internet in every room.

The rezoning application mentioned a 112-room hotel, which would bring the city's total room inventory to 1,869 rooms.

The Cyr property, tentatively dubbed Chateau Saint John, is expected to open next summer, joining the most recent additions to the city's hotel offerings - the Hampton Inn and Best Western - that both opened this year on the east side.
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Troupe unveils new building
Published Thursday August 14th, 2008
Arts Restoration of Saint John Theatre Company's new home nears completion

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SAINT JOHN - The Saint John Theatre Company is putting on a facade.


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Stephen Tobias, artistic director of the Saint John Theatre Company, in front of the new facade of the group’s building on Princess Street.


This isn't one of the group's stage shows, though - the company revealed a finished portion of the facade of its new building on Wednesday.

The ground level of the exterior is complete, while the top level will require more brickwork and new windows.

A crowd of 50 attended the announcement by the theatre company as it revealed the facade, as well as the design of the interior of its new headquarters building at 112 Princess St.

The company is spread out among several locations, with offices in Brunswick Square, rehearsal space in the Aliant tower, construction workshops on Prince William Street, and a warehouse space in the north end.

The new building consolidates the troupe's resources, says Stephen Tobias, artistic director of the company. Pending a building inspection sometime this week, the theatre company could start moving into the building for good in several weeks' time.

The amalgamation of facilities into the 8,000-square-foot building marks a major milestone for the company.

It also has another reason to celebrate - Wednesday's announcement coincided with the company's reaching 90 per cent of its $1.4-million capital fundraising goal for the building. The original capital goal was $925,000 - but that was before the group found out the building was structurally unsound.

"We had to rebuild the building from scratch," Tobias said Wednesday. "The silver lining of that was, we actually got to design exactly the building that we wanted. Up until that time, we were planning to really utilize a lot of the structure and the footprint of the building as it existed then.

"All we had were support posts, four brick walls and a roof. Literally everything you see, with the exception of the brick walls, it's all been designed to our specs. The design is really perfect for what we're doing."

Among other features, the new building has a large construction workshop, a rehearsal space and large loading dock, which Tobias hints could be used as an outdoor stage.

"We're already talking about that for next summer. Imagine a tent in that parking lot with 100 people sitting out there for Shakespeare in the Parking Lot, or some sort of thing like that."

The rehearsal space on the top floor of the building can also act as a stage.

"We have a lighting grid, we have technical capabilities. There's no reason why this space can't double as a small studio production space to seat 50 to 75 people for little intimate performances."

Coun. Carl Killen was in attendance, as well as councillors Gary Sullivan and Donnie Snook.

"The fact that this building has been restored to this degree is in itself a wonderful thing," said Killen, who represents Ward 3, where the building is located. "And that it would in turn be given to such a profoundly valuable community use? It's another one of those situations where there are so many positives that it's almost become difficult to list them."

Along with other new artistic initiatives uptown, Killen said "there's a real sense of the potential to bring a new kind of vibrancy to the uptown that I think is marvelous."

Aside from smaller renovation issues, the rear parking lot still must be paved and landscaped, and an elevator is yet to be in place. But Tobias said these items shouldn't take too long.

"We are in a position now where we will be auditioning, rehearsing, building and producing Chicago from this facility," said the artistic director. Chicago goes on stage the third week of November.

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Few uptown vacancies
Published Thursday August 14th, 2008
Retail Brunswick Square, Market Square boast occupancy rates of more than 90 per cent

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SAINT JOHN
- Retail space in the uptown is getting tight, a sign that the economic boom is building in the city.

At Brunswick Square, 92 per cent of the retail space is rented and in the office tower it is slightly higher, at 94 per cent, said Paulette Hicks, general manager of the complex.

In neighbouring Market Square, operated by the Hardman Group, there is a 95 occupancy rate with only one empty retail space.

The occupancy rates are higher than they have traditionally been, but the current rates are optimal because it gives a bit of flexibility. There is a lot of interest in uptown Saint John, said Hicks.

City Hall, in between the two, is owned by Revenue Properties Ltd in Toronto and has just recently rented out a space along the pedway that was vacant for awhile. Angela Sagrati is bringing her business to the uptown after opening a jewelry outlet in McAllister Place in March.

On Sept. 1 she plans to relocate Jewels for Divas to the Shoppes of City Hall, closing out her kiosk on the east side.

The former owner of Sagrati's in the City Market says she feels more at home in the uptown, so she was on the lookout for a place to put her new business and is grateful to have found one.

"My heart was set on being in the uptown from the beginning," she said. "Once you have owned a business in the uptown, it is really hard to work anywhere else."

Sagrati opened her kiosk in McAllister Place in March, carrying imported sterling silver pieces from such places as India, Mexico and Israel, as well as fresh water pearls from Beijing, Murano glass from Italy and semi-precious stones.

It has an exotic international flair, which will find an audience more in the uptown area, Sagrati said.

In the City Market she was providing food, but sold the business about three years ago and is now excited to be in retail. A graphic artist by trade, Sagrati has an eye for beautiful things from around the world and always got a positive response whenever she wore pieces of jewelry she purchased on vacation.

She has been following with great interest the proposal by Irving Oil to build a new headquarters at Long Wharf.

"I am very anxious about that, because if it doesn't go through I will be extremely disappointed," she said.

As a businesswoman with a product aimed at other women, she expects the number of females working in the new complex would be around 40 per cent.

Sagrati researched suppliers and is importing directly from them. The jewelry she sells ranges in price from $75 to $150 for bracelets, $40 to $60 for rings, and $60 to $70 for earrings.
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If the Saint John hotel follows the example Cyr has set with the Chateau Moncton template, patrons will be able to expect rooms that are 30 to 40 per cent larger than standard hotel rooms, plus in-room coffee and high-speed Internet in every room.

The rezoning application mentioned a 112-room hotel, which would bring the city's total room inventory to 1,869 rooms.
man, with the crane on site & ready to go i would HOPE that the forthcoming announcement will include some sketches of the structure....
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If the Saint John hotel follows the example Cyr has set with the Chateau Moncton template, patrons will be able to expect rooms that are 30 to 40 per cent larger than standard hotel rooms, plus in-room coffee and high-speed Internet in every room.
Wow! What an innovation for the hospitality industry!
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Wow! What an innovation for the hospitality industry!
I bet they have various flavours of coffee whitener as well.

I hope they go with a look and feel similar to the one in Moncton, I think the design is fun and not too pretentious.
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man, with the crane on site & ready to go i would HOPE that the forthcoming announcement will include some sketches of the structure....
Regarding the "forthcoming announcement", it's not clear to me whether he would be announcing the hotel, or actually a project in North of Union. The wording has been a bit ambiguous a few times. Perhaps it's along the same lines where the Coast Guard project is reannounced a couple of times every year, but having some sort of formal announcement of a project that has had public meetings and is under construction, just seems like such a non-announcement.
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There is a large construction site underway on Fairville Blvd. directly beside Canadian Tire (to the right). Something is going up. I am aware of the proposed development in this area and I see the new Shoppers Drug Mart well underway in the Lancaster Mall lot however, does anybody know what this new building is on Fairville Blvd? Thanks -
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If I remember correctly, we had a discussion some weeks ago about who the architect for the Irving HQ would be. Well I can't recall if anyone else had ever mentioned who it was, so I will do it now.

The architect that Irving Oil has hired is Robert A.M. Stern Architects, and judging by their previous office building work (http://www.ramsa.com/projectslist.aspx?cat=6) I don't think we have much to worry about when it comes to ensuring a top-class design for Long Wharf.
The comcast center is one of the nicest buildings to be built in the past 5 to 10 years and I am amazed that he will be the architect on this building we should have nothing to worry about in terms of architectural integrity.
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There is a large construction site underway on Fairville Blvd. directly beside Canadian Tire (to the right). Something is going up. I am aware of the proposed development in this area and I see the new Shoppers Drug Mart well underway in the Lancaster Mall lot however, does anybody know what this new building is on Fairville Blvd? Thanks -

There is new sobeys and a Canadian tire going there they are tearing down the old Canadian tire as well as the bus terminal and the old Sobeys will be a movie theater (rumor mill). They have finished the parking lot but I believe they are waiting for the new transit facility to be in the full swing of construction before they go any further,
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very, very nice models...the structure should fit in nicely next to the cruise terminal .... kinda classy....
They have already Started the reformation of three sisters park and this is going to do wonders to the uptown if it comes anywhere close to these designs.
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At the time, former councillor Glen Tait said he supported the rezoning and the hotel project, but wondered if Cyr had given any consideration to a development at the north of Union site. Cyr noted that he hadn't, but was willing to talk to city staff about options near the site of the new provincial justice facility and municipal police headquarters.


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In an interview earlier last month about his induction into the provincial business shrine, Cyr said he would be announcing "our biggest project to date within a month, in the city of Saint John."

He is well-known in Moncton business circles as the owner of the luxurious Chateau Moncton that overlooks the Petitcodiac River in the city's downtown and the owner and franchisor of the Dooly's Group, which owns and operates more than 75 billiards facilities in seven provinces.
hmm....maybe its a 10 story hotel with a dooley's on top?????!?!
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hmm....maybe its a 10 story hotel with a dooley's on top?????!?!

That would be FANTASTIC !!!
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