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Old Posted Aug 15, 2025, 3:04 PM
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Right now they are on the upper roof so according to the elevat is 996.5, so what are they building on top of this? I'd like to know. how can it be almost another forty feet
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The height of the tower has not been the ever ongoing question. It's the various site elevations that can be used to mark the starting point of measuring the total height. These building elevations of the top should make it more clear. The one being referenced in this latest height disucssion may be confusing.



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Is there any occupiable space in the part circled in red?

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Is there any occupiable space in the part circled in red?

That's the residential amenities level. If there wasn't, it would still be included in the height but not floor count.
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That's the residential amenities level. If there wasn't, it would still be included in the height but not floor count.
But the diagram has what would be its floor listed as "Level 74 Roof." I thought the building is 74 floors.
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But the diagram has what would be its floor listed as "Level 74 Roof." I thought the building is 74 floors.
There is no 13th floor. I don't know why news outlets and other sources don't take that into account.
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thanks for clearing that up. looks like another 26 feet for the parapet.
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Are there multiple floors (full or partial) under that sloped roof?

My point in asking: I'm wondering if the developers of Waterline may have built the tallest roof in Texas, but not the highest top floor.
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Are there multiple floors (full or partial) under that sloped roof?

My point in asking: I'm wondering if the developers of Waterline may have built the tallest roof in Texas, but not the highest top floor.
I cannot guarantee that the above elevations are the latest ones. But, if they are, Chase Tower's top floor is at 974' and Waterline's is at 972'.
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I cannot guarantee that the above elevations are the latest ones. But, if they are, Chase Tower's top floor is at 974' and Waterline's is at 972'.
I've never heard of using the height of the top floor as being the official height of the building. In any event, using this elevation drawing:



wouldn't the height 1474 (parapet) - 455.5 (plaza lobby) = 1018.5?
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I've never heard of using the height of the top floor as being the official height of the building. In any event, using this elevation drawing:
Nobody is suggesting that.

ETA: However, the height of the top occupiable floor is generally listed on the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat website.
In the case of Chase vs. Waterline, it doesn't make much difference. It does matter (somewhat) with buildings using pitched roofs and decorative spires to fudge their official heights.
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I've never heard of using the height of the top floor as being the official height of the building. In any event, using this elevation drawing:



wouldn't the height 1474 (parapet) - 455.5 (plaza lobby) = 1018.5?
No because the lobby entrance is higher than the lowest entrance. That’s why y’all are all confused.
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No because the lobby entrance is higher than the lowest entrance. That’s why y’all are all confused.
Exactly. I don't unsderstand how that point keeps getting missed.
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No because the lobby entrance is higher than the lowest entrance. That’s why y’all are all confused.
Ah, thanks for that clarification. I'm sure it's in a previous post but can somebody tell me what the elevation of the lowest entrance is?

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what the official height is and what we will actually see is two different things. This will appear to be just short of 1000
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what the official height is and what we will actually see is two different things. This will appear to be just short of 1000
Do you “see” a 999’ giraffe or what? You are increasingly moving towards the troll category.
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What the official height is and what we will actually see are two different things. This will appear to be just short of 1000’.
I fixed this for you.

Consider learning proper English if you want people to take your arguments seriously.
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I fixed this for you.

Consider learning proper English if you want people to take your arguments seriously.
I don't think potshots like this are necessary. You should engage people on the merits of their arguments or lack thereof. There's no need to attack someone on their improper grammar or punctuation. This is, after all, the Internet. Not only that, not everyone here is a native speaker.
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I don't think potshots like this are necessary. You should engage people on the merits of their arguments or lack thereof. There's no need to attack someone on their improper grammar or punctuation. This is, after all, the Internet. Not only that, not everyone here is a native speaker.
Disagree. We should be, as a society, encouraging people to learn proper English and quit making liberal excuses for people.

… and the user’s argument was bunk on the merits anyway, so why bother defending them?
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2025, 8:50 PM
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Its just the lower elevation and the slanted roof being visible as the top. Will the higher parapet be noticeable is my question. By the way wouldn't a central located 1200 foot tall observation tower look great!!! Maybe Elon could build one for pocket change to him lol
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