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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 2:13 PM
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what i find curious though is for a country as rich in history as England, they sure seem to be struggling to find their identity. everything from the logo to these mascots, nothing says Britian to me. Nothing. What happened?
To be fair, and as ugly as the mascots are, it's not up to us to say what represents them. I mean, imagine our uproar if people from outside our country wanted us to only show them beavers and igloos - and not in the ironic, tongue in cheek way like the Closing Ceremonies. I mean, the names and the taxi components are supposedly representative of London life and of the Olympic movement in the UK. So that's what they're claiming anyway.
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 3:02 PM
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I guess it would seem odd if you haven't followed the bid from the start. The stated aim of these Olympics from the start of the bid was twofold:

1. To physically regenerate a large area of London's East End.
2. To promote sport and Olympic ideals to a younger, internet savvy audience.

The tone of our final presentation to the IOC was a lot less nationalistic than those made by Paris, Madrid, Moscow or NYC. And it won out. These Games, in short, are in Britain rather than overtly about Britain. A very different concept to Vancouver's Games, which focussed brilliantly on the "sea and sky" concept and even took a line from the national anthem as the slogan, or Beijng's which was China's international coming out party and was ALL about China being bigger and better than everyone else.

Everyone connected with the bid said from the start that London doesn't need pushing too hard as a world city or tourist destination. The focus is on the event, on sport, on spectator experience; not on pushing nationalistic ideals or stereotypes about the UK onto an international audience. There are, though, nods to the UK in the mascots - the London cab lights on their heads and their names (being places important to the birth of the Olympics and Paralympics). But they're not a bulldog or a fox or a lion. And thank God for that!

Not everyone here is happy with this direction by any means, but it's entirely consistent with where the London 2012 bid said it would take the Olympics if they came to our city. And of course, when the Games come round, it oughtn't matter too much that the mascot isn't a British Bulldog and the logo isn't a River Thames motif because the city will be on show and the stadiums full of people with Union Flags.


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Remember, Britain made fun of the Vancouver Olympics
Correction: a handful of shit British hacks made fun of the Vancouver Olympics. Most people I know enjoyed them immensely. Please, please, please don't confuse us Brits with our life-sapping, self-destructive, cynical, god-awful press! And just to show they didn't pick you lot out for special treatment, look what they thought was a good story to print two days after we handed our world cup bid to FIFA

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-Spain-bid-bribe-World-Cup-referees.html

Yeah, the Daily Fail may have lost us the 2018 world cup.
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 3:10 PM
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To be fair, and as ugly as the mascots are, it's not up to us to say what represents them. I mean, imagine our uproar if people from outside our country wanted us to only show them beavers and igloos - and not in the ironic, tongue in cheek way like the Closing Ceremonies. I mean, the names and the taxi components are supposedly representative of London life and of the Olympic movement in the UK. So that's what they're claiming anyway.
Oh go on, show us your beaver!



Seriously though, Vancouver's mascots were fantastic. I didn't like your logo, despite wishing it'd grow on me, but the mascots, the look of your Games with the blues and greens, and the overall design strategy was brilliantly pulled off. I don't think London is quite there with ours yet - its still under development as Vancouver's was two years prior to your Games - but it's coming together piece by piece.

And yes, the taxi light is fairly obvious (to Londoners at least). The names take a little more explaining:

Wenlock:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/carry...s-which-still-survive-today-1532669.html

Mandeville:
http://www.insideworldparasport.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8026&Itemid=310

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i must say, our media sure is having a field day with these mascots.

today's National Post commentary headline:

Remember, Britain made fun of the Vancouver Olympics

Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010...of-the-vancouver-olympics/#ixzz0oZAjyxhh

"Amazingly enough, these walking alien penis creatures are marketed toward children, hoping to raise £15 million in merchandising these frighteningly ugly mascots in toy form. Yes, you can bring the joy of the 2012 London Olympic Games into your home by purchasing Wenlock, the one-eyed mascot that walks erect."

LOL. Ah you can only laugh.

what i find curious though is for a country as rich in history as England, they sure seem to be struggling to find their identity. everything from the logo to these mascots, nothing says Britian to me. Nothing. What happened?

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That poster is photoshopped.. right? right?
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VANOC organizers off to Russia with love

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Vancouver — From Tuesday's Globe and Mail
Published on Monday, May. 31, 2010 4:13PM EDT
Last updated on Tuesday, Jun. 01, 2010 5:16PM EDT



Still flushed with the success of the 2010 Winter Games, organizers will be in Russia this week and next to impart their collective Olympic wisdom to the next winter host, the balmy Black Sea resort of Sochi.

But there will be no crowing over Vancouver’s recent triumph, insists VANOC boss John Furlong, despite the many troubles that have already beset preparations for the 2014 Games.

“It isn’t really for us to go and flex our muscles and tell everybody how good we think were,” said Mr. Furlong on Monday, just ahead of VANOC’s formal debrief to Sochi organizers on Vancouver’s recent Olympics. “Our job really is to provide help … to share information they will be able to use to become better at what they do.”

Based on recent developments, Sochi may need some help.

The United Nations’s top environmental agency has criticized 2014 organizers for not doing enough to protect endangered wildlife, while hundreds of residents have had their properties expropriated against their will.

Reporters Without Borders, meanwhile, has accused Russian authorities of pressuring local journalists to ignore criticism of the Games, which have long been a key initiative of the country’s powerful Prime Minister, Vladimir Putin.

The latest controversy surfaced on the weekend. A rich Russian businessman told a British newspaper that he was forced to pay several million dollars in bribes to retain a lucrative construction project connected to the 2014 Olympics.

An official implicated in the case denounced the allegations as “total rubbish,” but prosecutors are investigating the matter.

Mr. Furlong, who will head a 45-member delegation to Sochi, said he is nonetheless looking forward to his first visit to the 2014 host city.

“It’s a resort area, so it will be interesting. … They’ve actually made quite a lot of progress,” he said.

He said he will not shy from stressing some things VANOC could have done better, mentioning in particular the organization’s decision to kill, then – under pressure – resurrect the medal presentation plaza in Whistler. The nightly awards ceremonies turned out be a highlight of the Games in the ski resort north of Vancouver.

“There was a time when we were allowing the economics to drive the outcome … but as it turned out we couldn’t have afforded not to do it,” Mr. Furlong said. “At the end of the day, when it’s about the atmosphere and the electricity around the Games, these programs are important.”

The International Olympic Committee was among those pressuring VANOC to keep the Whistler medals plaza, a dispute that led to strained relations between the two organizations.

In a teleconference call earlier in the day, IOC executive Gilbert Felli observed with satisfaction that, on the last day of the Olympics, Mr. Furlong acknowledged: “Sometimes we resisted IOC advice and maybe we shouldn’t have.”

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati...iefed-in-sochi-this-week/article1587065/
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U.S. interest in Surrey flower training for prisoners

By Dan Ferguson - Surrey North Delta Leader
Published: June 07, 2010 10:00 AM
Updated: June 07, 2010 10:23 AM


During the Vancouver-Whistler 2010 Olympics, Just Beginnings founder June Strandberg was fielding questions from people from all over the world.

Reporters covering the Winter Games were fascinated by the story of a small Surrey flower shop that trained troubled women as florists and how it won the contract to provide all the victory bouquets for medal winners.

And most of the reports they filed mentioned that the program started in a prison.

Strandberg had become used to explaining how a parole officer had contacted her years ago about training female prisoners.

The prison program eventually shut down, but a version of it was revived in Surrey at the Just Beginnings flower shop, which helps train former prostitutes, recovering addicts and women fleeing violence.

The women learn the trade in classrooms operating below the storefront location at 13686 96A Ave., across the street from Surrey Memorial Hospital.

Then came a call Strandberg didn't expect.

The warden of a women's prison in New Mexico had seen one of the stories and gone to the trouble to track her down.

He went to the Just Beginnings website to check them out, then picked up the phone to ask Strandberg, a veteran florist, about the Canadian prison program

"He just kept calling back," Strandberg said.

During the last conversation they had, the warden said he was preparing to pitch the program to his superiors.

"I really would love to see that program go [to the U.S.]" an upbeat Strandberg says.

She's offered to go to the American jail at no charge to help them set up a florist training program.

During the Winter Olympics and Paralympic Games, the student florists at Just Beginnings were responsible for making 1,800 bouquets, as many as 150 a day.

A total of 27 people worked on the bouquets, with eight to 10 working every day with four designers, three flower care handlers and two lead designers.

"It went like clockwork," Strandberg says.

If you don't count a few times when the delivery trucks were running late.

Because the florists always worked a day ahead, she says the delivery delays didn't keep any bouquets from being ready for podium presentations.

Strandberg began working with troubled women more than 20 years ago.

At the time, the third-generation florist was running two retail stores and operating a trade school for florists.

A parole officer contacted Strandberg and asked if she would be willing to train two women who had recently been released from prison.

That led to the creation of the first Beginnings program that opened in 1991 at the Burnaby Correctional Centre for Women.

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http://www.bclocalnews.com/surrey_area/surreyleader/community/95784724.html
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With Glowing Hearts: The Official Commemorative Book of the XXI Olympic Winter Games and the X Paralympic Winter Games is here.
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The book, published by Wiley & Sons, has already become a Canadian bestseller: Vanoc says it has already received 14,000 orders and is now expecting it will exhaust its 17,500 first edition print run.
Check out the book, including more than 1,500 photographs, in bookstores next week.
Source: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/With+...y+Canadian+bestseller/3121024/story.html
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^ i'm definitely getting a copy.
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has anyone ordered the commemorative dvd from ctv?? we ordered it right after the olympics and it still hasn't come yet...
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that pop up store - the scoop - on wets 4th has a lot of olympic stuff you can buy - they have some frames tickets and pics from the opening ceremony - i think they are $199 - why anyone would want one i don't know but if u like that kind of crap its there - as well as clothes and stuff - near the back
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has anyone ordered the commemorative dvd from ctv?? we ordered it right after the olympics and it still hasn't come yet...
I just got my copy today through the mail. You should contact CTV as it shouldn't take that long.
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^ i'm definitely getting a copy.
I think Amazon.ca offers a big discount and free shipping.
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I just got my copy today through the mail. You should contact CTV as it shouldn't take that long.
hmmm ok so I guess I should get it sometime soon then. I'll wait a little while longer then
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Danny Boyle of Slumdog Millionaire fame will direct all four London Olympic and Paralympic Opening and Closing Ceremonies with an allocated budget of 40-million pounds or CAD$60-million. Comparatively, the Vancouver Olympic Opening/Closing was done for CAD$49-million.






Slumdog's Boyle to direct 2012 Olympic ceremony


By Avril Ormsby
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Thursday, June 17, 2010; 7:26 AM

LONDON (Reuters Life!) - Oscar-winning filmmaker Danny Boyle will direct the London 2012 Olympic opening ceremony, organizers said on Thursday, and he immediately promised a "thrilling welcome" for both athletes and the world.

Boyle, whose work includes "Shallow Grave," "Trainspotting" and the hugely successful "Slumdog Millionaire," acknowledged it may not be on the same scale as the last Games in Beijing, but he promised a "genuine and personal welcome."

British director and producer Stephen Daldry, who has been involved with "Billy Elliot," "The Hours" and "The Reader," will be part of a four-man team which will oversee the opening and closing ceremonies for both the Olympic and Paralympics.

They will work within a total budget of 40 million pounds, which will come out of the overall 2 billion pound budget of Locog, the organization responsible for staging the Games.

A global TV audience of 1 billion people watched Beijing's spectacular opening ceremony in 2008, which set the benchmark against previous ceremonies often deemed woeful and cheesy.

"You have got to acknowledge that it is not going to be like Beijing in terms of this overwhelming, intimidating scale," Boyle told reporters.

"It will be more modest than that. But our job is to make sure that within those means it is spectacular and delivers a thrilling welcoming to the opening of the Games."

There were few hints about what would be included, except that the lighting of the Olympic torch was central to their thinking, and "zombies would not be running around on stage."

"I want to provide something fitting for this world event," he added.

There were hints that part of the ceremony could be "bounced out" of the stadium.

Locog chairman Seb Coe said it was important not to just ape previous ceremonies, but to portray the different cities and their backgrounds.

Boyle, who has lived in east London where the Games will be held, said he jumped at the chance of being artistic director, and would take inspiration from sporting excellence and the city which had given him so many opportunities.

He will work on the project full-time from early next year after he has completed two projects he is already committed to including a stage production of "Frankenstein."

Boyle, who said he was a better sports fan than competitor, praised the intimacy of the 80,000-seat main stadium where the ceremonies will be held, describing it as a "little wonder."

Daldry said he did not view the project as a poisoned chalice.

They would not be tied to the 8-minute show put on by London during the hand-over ceremony in Beijing, organizers said.

The slot, which featured a red London bus and bowler-hatted dancers, cost 1.5 million pounds, but was widely criticized.

"It is a different show, and a different team," Martin Green, Locog's head of ceremonies, told Reuters.

(Editing by Steve Addison)




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Seems like a small budget given the relative size of the events. Was $49m CAD the final price or initial budget?
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^ the original budget was CAD $40-million, but Atkins pleaded to VANOC that it wasn't enough in 2009. The budget was only sufficient for the pre-production costs, he needed another $8.5-million for the circular projection drapes, lighting, rigging, and staging.

I think he could've used a few more million, the Closing Ceremonies were an embarrassment and I thought it could also have used a significant fireworks finale to signal to the world that the 2010 Games were ending.


I too agree that London's budget is a bit small for the Summer Games, and not only that but we all know how much more things in the UK cost...
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Will the closing ceremonies be called 28 Days Later and feature zombies?

EDIT: Damn, Boyle said it won't... I guess I should have read the whole article before posting
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