Mobile Development Thread - Page 145

Exodus · #**2881** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 7:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by MobileLSUboy2005

haha yea i dont count the indian casinos...im talkin big ole commercial casinos....but how do places like Greenetrack, and that place between montgomery and auburn on I-85 work under our laws? i mean heck, we have a dog track in Mobile...and then they wanted to put video machines there and people flipped out....like a video machine is gonna cause anymore crime...

Most places don't have legal gambling like casinos. Hell, it was a fight to get casinos in Detroit of all places.

Muskavon · #**2882** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 7:19 PM**

I hate like hell to throw any more tanker news on the fire (we really need to make a thread if it keeps on going)....but anyway hot off the wires,

From Reuters:

"The Pentagon also said it would give more credit for an aircraft's ability to offload fuel beyond the required amount, a decision that could favor the larger A330 plane offered by Northrop and its European subcontractor EADS, said the aides.

At the same time, the revised request for proposals will measure life cycle costs over 40 years not 25, which could help Boeing with its smaller 767 aircraft, they said."

From the AP:

"The Pentagon planned a briefing Wednesday afternoon to discuss the new selection process. The final version of the request for proposals is expected to be released to both companies on Aug. 15. The new bids are due Oct. 1 and a decision is expected by the end of the year. "

OCA REP · #**2883** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 8:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Muskavon

I hate like hell to throw any more tanker news on the fire (we really need to make a thread if it keeps on going)....

I proposed a seperate thread a while back, but it never went anywhere. I envisioned it being like the seperate one Huntsville had for the VW plant discussions...

Port_of_Bama · #**2884** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 8:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by (Tim)

In other news, I have searched for information on the promenade that would be built on the Alabama motor sports parkway and could not find a dang thing. I see on the web site that a space has been placed aside for retail. Hear-say from the Bel-Air gang states that the building will be huge and nice. I have asked where they got the information and they stated the mall management. I called LaSalle and they would not tell, but stated some competition is under way and that Bel-Air is trying to step up to the plate. Your thoughts please.

Hmmm so I assume they will be building the new mall in Saraland then. The last time I talked to Dow he told me they were deciding between Tillmans Corner or Saraland. I wish I could get my hands on more info about this retail centre. If this thing is going to be huge and nice like they say it will be then Bel- Air will have to bring the food court back after Target leaves and add a second level.

MobileLSUboy2005 · #**2885** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

If this thing is going to be huge and nice like they say it will be then Bel- Air will have to bring the food court back after Target leaves and add a second level.

jeez i hope so!!!

NitekKetin · #**2886** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 9:22 PM**

Bel Air Mall can't be retrofitted with a second level. Remember most of west Mobile is reclaimed swampland. It was nearly an act of Congress for Sears to add its second level back in '96/

What retailers would enter *this* market?

10101000 · #**2887** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 10:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by NitekKetin

Bel Air Mall can't be retrofitted with a second level. Remember most of west Mobile is reclaimed swampland. It was nearly an act of Congress for Sears to add its second level back in '96/

What retailers would enter *this* market?

The kind that want to make money. You were saying?

MobileLSUboy2005 · #**2888** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 1:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by (Tim)

The kind that want to make money. You were saying?

wha-pshhh.....thats the sound of a slap 'cross da face hahahaha just kiddin

NitekKetin · #**2889** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 1:31 AM**

It would be easier to redevelop/demolish one of Bel Air's anchor stores INTO a multi-level retail space. JC Penney's nearly 200k square foot expanse could be gutted for a combination food court/bookstore/casual dining cluster (PF Chang's and Rousso's, anyone).

NitekKetin · #**2890** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 1:36 AM**

With a handful of exceptions, Mobile has never attracted higher-end retail. Compare our area lifestyle centers and malls to developments in B'ham, Huntsville and, yes, even Montgomery. Do you see a J. Crew, Harold's, or Banana Republic amongst our tenant listings? That probably won't change five years and 1 million more square feet down the road, either.

MobileLSUboy2005 · #**2891** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 1:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by NitekKetin

With a handful of exceptions, Mobile has never attracted higher-end retail. Compare our area lifestyle centers and malls to developments in B'ham, Huntsville and, yes, even Montgomery. Do you see a J. Crew, Harold's, or Banana Republic amongst our tenant listings? That probably won't five years and 1 million more square feet down the road, either.

helloooooo ive been saying this over and over about how our retail options are majorly lacking! haha

NitekKetin · #**2892** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 2:05 AM**

Now, if Bayer, Cousins, Simons or GGP developed and leased our regional centers and used their considerable connections with national retailers, there would be a lot less griping about quality of retail.

spookyapp · #**2893** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 5:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by NitekKetin

It would be easier to redevelop/demolish one of Bel Air's anchor stores INTO a multi-level retail space. JC Penney's nearly 200k square foot expanse could be gutted for a combination food court/bookstore/casual dining cluster (PF Chang's and Rousso's, anyone).

Why would you randomly "gut" a perfectly good, successful store like that just for something that is a fantasyland project?

SpawnOfVulcan · #**2894** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 6:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by spookyapp

Why would you randomly "gut" a perfectly good, successful store like that just for something that is a fantasyland project?

*winces* don't say fantasyland, please. That's a sex toy store in Tuscaloosa.

NitekKetin · #**2895** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 6:58 AM**

JC Penney, in particular, is starting to leave its dated mall stores for modern, more convenient freetanding locations, like the upcoming store at Spanish Fort Town Center. JC Penney could easily sign on as an anchor for an open-air project in north Mobile County, leaving its Bel Air Mall store behind. If Target leaves the mall as well (they have mulled the idea), around 300k of retail space is left at Bel Air, ripe for redevelopment.

OCA REP · #**2896** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 1:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by NitekKetin

With a handful of exceptions, Mobile has never attracted higher-end retail. Compare our area lifestyle centers and malls to developments in B'ham, Huntsville and, yes, even Montgomery. Do you see a J. Crew, Harold's, or Banana Republic amongst our tenant listings? That probably won't change five years and 1 million more square feet down the road, either.

I guess Pottery Barn would be one of the exceptions. Wish we had one here in Montgomery...

MobileLSUboy2005 · #**2897** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 1:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by OCA REP

I guess Pottery Barn would be one of the exceptions. Wish we had one here in Montgomery...

We've got a brand new one here in Baton Rouge at the Mall of Louisiana....it aint that great...haha overpriced stuff mainly, but still nice to look at! haha, i prefer Z Gallerie, which we have over in Perkins Rowe; same kinda stuff, but cooler set ups, and they have a big art gallery

http://www.perkinsrowe.com/
http://www.zgallerie.com/
http://www.malloflouisiana.com/html/index20.asp

10101000 · #**2898** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 1:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by MobileLSUboy2005

We've got a brand new one here in Baton Rouge at the Mall of Louisiana....it aint that great...haha overpriced stuff mainly, but still nice to look at! haha, i prefer Z Gallerie, which we have over in Perkins Rowe; same kinda stuff, but cooler set ups, and they have a big art gallery

http://www.perkinsrowe.com/
http://www.zgallerie.com/
http://www.malloflouisiana.com/html/index20.asp

I love Z Gallerie.

10101000 · #**2899** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by NitekKetin

JC Penney, in particular, is starting to leave its dated mall stores for modern, more convenient freetanding locations, like the upcoming store at Spanish Fort Town Center. JC Penney could easily sign on as an anchor for an open-air project in north Mobile County, leaving its Bel Air Mall store behind. If Target leaves the mall as well (they have mulled the idea), around 300k of retail space is left at Bel Air, ripe for redevelopment.

While we are all sitting around here barking! I said earlier that Bel-Air has something up there sleeve, but they will not tell. I called La Salle to find out and they stated that new competition is coming to the market that would allow for redevelopment. One of my friends manages a store in Bel-Air and said the same thing. Most of the stores lease's are up and need to get out or resign at a higher price. Target should be out by next year.

Also, I talked to the manager of Legacy Village and he stated that they have a high-end furniture store on the way. I sure hope it is Z Gallerie.

MobileLSUboy2005 · #**2900** Posted **Aug 7, 2008, 2:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by (Tim)

While we are all sitting around here barking! I said earlier that Bel-Air has something up there sleeve, but they will not tell. I called La Salle to find out and they stated that new competition is coming to the market that would allow for redevelopment. One of my friends manages a store in Bel-Air and said the same thing. Most of the stores lease's are up and need to get out or resign at a higher price. Target should be out by next year.

Also, I talked to the manager of Legacy Village and he stated that they have a high-end furniture store on the way. I sure hope it is Z Gallerie.

oOOooo hopefully!