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Old Posted Aug 5, 2014, 1:56 PM
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Apparently the owner of the Old Reardons is trying to move a meth lab/clinic into the building. That would be a disaster for the area.
A meth lab and a methadone clinic are totally different things. Meth is not short for methadone.
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Old Posted Aug 5, 2014, 4:41 PM
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Does that even matter?? The fact is that whether meth lab or methadone clinic it is a gross misuse of a property in an area that Hamilton so badly needs to thrive. Is the John St. Clinic not suffice, do we really need another clinic 2 blocks away? The answer is No.
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I don't necessarily support a methadone clinic on that corner, but what about the consequences of not having that facility where people need it? It is part of the solution and it needs to be somewhere.
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What 5 aren't enough, not to mention that the clinic on John street is 2 blocks away??



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Ontario Addiction Treatment Centres (OATC) - Hamilton
397 Main Street East
Hamilton, ON L8N 1J7
(905) 528-9889

ACT Hamilton
666 Barton Street East
Hamilton, ON L8L 3A4
(289) 799-2135

John Street Clinic
14 John Street North
Hamilton, ON L8R 1G9
(905) 522-7206

The Hamilton Clinic - A Fresh New Start
200 Main Street East
Lower Level
Hamilton, ON L8N 1H3
(905) 523-4567

Addiction Treatment Clinic
554 Main Street East
Hamilton, ON L8M 1J3
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Old Posted Aug 5, 2014, 7:30 PM
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Looks like there are probably a sufficient number of methadone clinics in the area.

I can guarantee it won't be a meth lab
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What 5 aren't enough, not to mention that the clinic on John street is 2 blocks away??



Hamilton

Ontario Addiction Treatment Centres (OATC) - Hamilton
397 Main Street East
Hamilton, ON L8N 1J7
(905) 528-9889

ACT Hamilton
666 Barton Street East
Hamilton, ON L8L 3A4
(289) 799-2135

John Street Clinic
14 John Street North
Hamilton, ON L8R 1G9
(905) 522-7206

The Hamilton Clinic - A Fresh New Start
200 Main Street East
Lower Level
Hamilton, ON L8N 1H3
(905) 523-4567

Addiction Treatment Clinic
554 Main Street East
Hamilton, ON L8M 1J3
(905) 522-9002
Sadly, five clinics likely is not sufficient to meet the requirements of recovering addicts who reside in Hamilton. Which is why this is being opened.

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Hundreds of people are rushed to Hamilton’s hospitals every year for opioid related emergencies. According to the Ministry of Health and Long Term Care, there were 515 LHIN opioid emergency visits in Hamilton in 2012, up from 439 in 2009. Emergency room visits peaked in 2011 at 545.

People are dying, too. There were 22 opioid-related deaths in Hamilton in 2012 — more than half of all drug related deaths in the city, according to the Office of the Chief Coroner.

And more people are seeking help for addiction. Just 10 per cent of St. Joseph’s Healthcare’s withdrawal management program for men consisted of opioid patients in 2002. That number has grown every year to 24 per cent in 2012.

The numbers are virtually the same for women. Opioid patients made up eight percent of St. Joe’s Womankind Addiction Service in 2002. A decade later, that number had more than tripled to 26 per cent.
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The management for the john street methadone clinic was "kicked out" due to multiple violations, and it is now under new management.

The previous management company is the one wanting to open on King William.

IMHO a retail storefront is not the right location for a methadone clinic anywhere in the city. This belongs in a medical facility. I won't argue that these services are not necessary for those in need. But it is not fair to claim that the negative impact on surrounding businesses should not be considered.

Burrito Boyz was forced to rebuild their storefront because they did not have enough glass, meanwhile these clinics are allowed to operate with 100% of their glass blocked out? It's not appropriate use of the space.
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Before we get into a discussion on whether or not a methadone clinic belongs in a storefront space in this building, we need to determine if this is a fact or just hearsay/rumour. Can anyone actually confirm that it is actually moving into the building? If it is, why are we assuming it is looking to move into the ground floor retail space? The clinic, if it is actually coming to this building could very well occupy the space above the storefront, which has been vacant for years. In that case, the ground floor storefront would remain available for retail space.

AFAIK, the same rules that applied to Burrito Boyz will apply to this space, regardless of what business may set up shop there.

Finally, if the person seeking to set up a clinic here was removed from operating another location for "multiple violations", I would doubt he would be successful in any bid to set up another clinic anywhere.
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Mark, the storey that coalminecanary mentioned was exactly the storey that I heard from someone attached to the situation. Same owners that were removed from the John St Clinic. Is this what King William needs?

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The front portion of the stucco on the old London Tap House is now bright orange/red. It looks... vivid.

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The front portion of the stucco on the old London Tap House is now bright orange/red. It looks... vivid.

uh
Maybe they're going for a Bondo rat rod aesthetic.
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The building next door on Main Street is also on the verge of collapse. The corner of the building is literally being held together by strapping and 2x4's. Rumor I was told is that a water leak has compromised the structure. I think we'll be hearing about it soon.
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Not sure how Hamilton is progressing on core density targets but it would be nice to think that downtown TO's enthusiasm will express itself locally to some degree as well.

Toronto’s ‘Manhattanization’: Downtown development growing at ‘mind blowing’ rate
(National Post, Natalie Alcoba, Aug 27, 2014)

For more evidence of the astounding pace of growth in Toronto, one need look no further than the past two days of city council, which approved 18 new buildings in the downtown, including three office towers.

The development bonanza works out to 755 additional storeys, or 6,887 units — more fuel for the “Manhattanization” of Canada’s largest city.

Chief planner Jennifer Keesmaat called the amount of work her department has processed “mind blowing” and “astronomical,” noting that it comes in addition to the 70,000 units already approved and in the pipeline to be constructed across the city.

Downtown Toronto, she noted, is growing four times faster than the rest of the city and has a quarter of all of the office development in Canada. The three office towers on Front Street and King Street West come after a concerted effort by the city to speed up approvals for commercial projects.

“Quite frankly, the development industry is just waiting for cranes to become available, they’re waiting to be able to get the construction workers available to actually build their projects,” said Ms. Keesmaat.

For anyone jockeying for space on the sidewalks, streets and streetcars of the core, the obvious question is, can Toronto handle all this growth?

“Absolutely, yes,” said Ms. Keesmaat, who has worked in cities across North America that are “desperate” for the kind of activity that Toronto is experiencing.
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Not sure how Hamilton is progressing on core density targets but it would be nice to think that downtown TO's enthusiasm will express itself locally to some degree as well.
Would appreciate a link to those density targets, if you have one.

Meantime, that TO enthusiasm will never find its way to Hamilton, I fear.

People here are horrified that a kinda-sorta neo-modernist 22-story building is proposed for James N. I did find one person who is happy about it.

http://bit.ly/YYzF9h

The density people cheer for in Hamilton is car density. "That'll help get rid of those effing bike lanes. And that goddam bus lane!"
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Chief planner Jennifer Keesmaat called the amount of work her department has processed “mind blowing” and “astronomical,” noting that it comes in addition to the 70,000 units already approved and in the pipeline to be constructed across the city.
70,000 units in progress makes me think "real estate bubble"...

Anyway, I do think that the addition of more high-rises in downtown Toronto will inevitably help people in nearby municipalities like Hamilton warm to the idea in their own downtowns.
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70,000 units in progress makes me think "real estate bubble"....
Toronto added 111,000 people 2006-2011. I don't there's a real bubble worry there. It's attracting people on a global scale.

The day Hamilton residents start to complain that condo construction is blocking the sidewalks....please pinch me.
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Would appreciate a link to those density targets, if you have one.
The initial target was apparently met several years ago, though the metric ("people and jobs per hectare") arguably merges jobs and residents into a single figure that doesn't tell you much about population density ambitions.

City looks at upping density downtown
(Hamilton Spectator, Nicole Macintyre, Nov 28, 2008)

In 20 years, could Hamilton's downtown be nearly as densely developed as Toronto's?

It's a question some councillors want municipal planners to study as the city decides where its growth should be focused in the next two decades.

Hamilton's downtown has already met the province's growth target of 200 people and jobs per hectare. Staff recommended increasing the target to 250, but several councillors questioned if the city was setting its goal too low.

"I think we need to go beyond the status quo," said Councillor Brian McHattie, who plans to ask staff to explore the implications of doubling the current density by 2031.

A growth target of 400 people and jobs per hectare would match Mississauga's goal for its downtown and the current density in Toronto.

Tim McCabe, general manager of planning and economic development, cautioned that changing the city's growth target for downtown would radically change the look of the core. For example, he noted the city would have to change its height restrictions for buildings.

"I think it's a very risky path," McCabe said.

If the city set its downtown growth target too high and failed, it could stop the city from expanding its urban boundary in other areas, he said.

Planning staff said the 250 density target was "a reach" but attainable.


Read it in full here.

Additional detail from MMM Group’s March 2013 Downtown Hamilton Parking Study and Parking Garage Assessment (Appendix "A" to Report PED12153(a)):

Based on the Downtown Hamilton Employment Analysis report, dated November 2010, the Downtown Hamilton Secondary Plan area (i.e., the study area) has a gross density of 218 residents and jobs per hectare. The City has established a minimum gross density target of 250 residents and jobs per hectare by 2031 for the Downtown Hamilton Urban Growth Centre, a slightly larger area that includes the study area. Figure 10 illustrates the boundaries of both the Downtown Hamilton Urban Growth Centre and the Downtown Hamilton Secondary Plan area. Thus, an annual growth of 0.71% in gross density is expected over the span of 21 years (between 2010 and 2031), as shown in Table 16.

Again, they're measuring gross density — so if downtown population stagnates or declines, the City can still claim victory if those losses are offset by job growth.
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The initial target was apparently met several years ago, though the metric ("people and jobs per hectare") arguably merges jobs and residents into a single figure that doesn't tell you much about population density ambitions.
Thanks for that article.

I can't believe this guy actually uttered this. Is he still employed by The City of Hamilton? No wonder projects like the Tivoli, 6 years on, are resisted!

"Tim McCabe, general manager of planning and economic development, cautioned that changing the city's growth target for downtown would radically change the look of the core. For example, he noted the city would have to change its height restrictions for buildings.

"I think it's a very risky path," McCabe said.

Downtown growth is where it's happening in all cities. Oy vey.
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Toronto added 111,000 people 2006-2011. I don't there's a real bubble worry there. It's attracting people on a global scale.
110,000 - but how many of those are part of a family? And how many can actually even afford to buy real-estate after just migrating to a new country?

Don't kid yourself, there are a lot of units sitting empty... and this increased supply will just add to the glut.
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