stal̕əw̓asəm (Riverview) Bridge (Pattullo Bridge Replacement) | U/C

[mcj]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

But isn't the design and construction of the bridge specifically rated as a posted speed of 50 km/h with a design speed of 60 km/h? (Page 40)

https://www.infrastructurebc.com/wp-cont...-and-Construction-Execution-REDACTED.pdf

Gotta love how we design things for people to break the rules.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Stainer

I'd bet the speed limit is temporarily lower due to not having the final surface complete. Hitting those expansion joints at full speed would be bad for both them and your vehicle.

It should probably still be signed as a construction zone.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

It should probably still be signed as a construction zone.

Nothing can compete with the metal plates that were on the Lions Gate back in 2015

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.3197728

[madog222]

Columbia Street will be closed for "four to six weeks" starting on the 26th for removal of the old bridge approach.

[jollyburger]

And

In late February, Fraser Crossing Partners will begin removing the Pattullo Bridge. Deconstruction activities will be completed in three phases: onland, above-water, and below-water. Some removal activities will take place concurrently and the overall process will take approximately two years to complete.

[jollyburger]

Closeup drone of the upper crossbeam art

Medallion art is now installed on the bridge’s upper crossbeam!

Framing the bridge name, this artwork was created by Kwantlen artist Atheana Picha (left) & Musqueam artist Chris Sparrow (right).

These 4 aluminum medallions were fabricated locally in Delta, B.C.

https://x.com/pattulloproject/status/2024559078983553378

I noticed in another drone shot there did look to be some kind of gap between the panel and where the artwork is located.

[waves]

I am surprised no one has mentioned the refurbishment fantasy yet about the Pattullo that's been making the rounds on social media, and has made it to the local news (links below). With the poor condition of the bridge it is not surprising that the government has said this isn't a priority, but I do feel as though the sentiment speaks to the lack of bridges, or infrastructure generally, that is more "local" and human in scale.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pattullo-bridge-rendering-government-no-9.7098241

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article...icians-pitch-park-instead-of-demolition/


Source: CBC with files from Instagram, Link above

[flipper316]

Originally Posted by Vantage

There's a significant bump because they haven't paved the final layer of asphalt yet, leaving a large bump at every expansion joint. Also visible at the pedestrian crossing of the on-ramp from Royal, temporary letdowns from the sidewalk as the asphalt does not come up to the level of the letdown from the concrete curb yet.

I imagine they will fully repave the bridge and approaches and get it to it's final thickness once the connection to SFPR is complete. So probably a while yet. You can also see the road is not in its final alignment where the south approach meets the abutment embankment.

Still lots of work left to be done on the bridge.

Thank you.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by waves

I am surprised no one has mentioned the refurbishment fantasy yet about the Pattullo that's been making the rounds on social media, and has made it to the local news (links below). With the poor condition of the bridge it is not surprising that the government has said this isn't a priority, but I do feel as though the sentiment speaks to the lack of bridges, or infrastructure generally, that is more "local" and human in scale.

Your feeling of the sentiment speaking to the lack of infrastructure that is human in scale is one that I feel too, and others on this board and elsewhere. However, this AI generated image is unrealistic considering the seismic risks of the bridge. But could you imagine the vitriol if we had higher quality cycling pedestrian infrastructure installed on the new bridge, there's a reason we don't have nice things.

If New West was going to build a ped/cycling bridge, it would be from Quayside to Queensborough, but that's been shelved too. Haven't heard the councilors that came up with all sorts of ideas for the Pattullo advocate for that.

[Migrant_Coconut]

I'd also add how it doesn't really connect to anything: you've got a bedroom community on the New West end, and an industrial park on the Surrey end, so what's the long-term demand for keeping the Pattullo?

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by mcj

...this AI generated image is unrealistic considering the seismic risks of the bridge. But could you imagine the vitriol if we had higher quality cycling pedestrian infrastructure installed on the new bridge, there's a reason we don't have nice things.

Heck, some people are complaining about the mere existence of pedestrian / cycling infrastructure on the new bridge, why would one think that maintaining an entire ancient structure solely for them would be a viable plan?

[officedweller]

Supports for the multi-use path:


https://x.com/pattulloproject/status/2024967612434714688

[Vantage]

Originally Posted by waves

I am surprised no one has mentioned the refurbishment fantasy yet about the Pattullo that's been making the rounds on social media, and has made it to the local news (links below).

This total pipe dream is also supported by a Surrey city councilor, not sure if she's just ignorant of the issues with the old bridge and conflict with the new bridge that makes this practically impossible, or she's just trying to win votes since she's running for mayor in October.

[jollyburger]

One day Surrey will build a massive river entertainment district on the other side and it will all make sense then.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

One day Surrey will build a massive river entertainment district on the other side and it will all make sense then.

We could run the canal over the bridge, it only needs a few locks!

[WarrenC12]

Will these same people be advocating for keeping the old massey tunnel?

As if there's no reason it's being replaced.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by madog222

We could run the canal over the bridge, it only needs a few locks!

Ooh a river on a bridge that crosses a river - what could go wrong?

[bloomtronzero]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Ooh a river on a bridge that crosses a river - what could go wrong?

What's McCallum up to these days, anyways?

That guy and his wacky canals idea. It was non-stop laughs with that guy.

[bloomtronzero]

Originally Posted by waves

I am surprised no one has mentioned the refurbishment fantasy yet about the Pattullo that's been making the rounds on social media, and has made it to the local news (links below). With the poor condition of the bridge it is not surprising that the government has said this isn't a priority, but I do feel as though the sentiment speaks to the lack of bridges, or infrastructure generally, that is more "local" and human in scale.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pattullo-bridge-rendering-government-no-9.7098241

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article...icians-pitch-park-instead-of-demolition/


Source: CBC with files from Instagram, Link above

Conceptually, I love it, of course. I love shit like this.


But, you know, that bridge is just falling the heck apart. It's been replaced because that sucker was legit unsafe. Like, even if it's just pedestrians, there's still chunks falling off, the occasional fire, and just not being ready for an earthquake.

[bloomtronzero]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

One day Surrey will build a massive river entertainment district on the other side and it will all make sense then.

Surrey keeps pitching that and I keep hating it. I mean, that's the fraser river port, surely that's exactly the sort of area that should have industrial around it? It's plans like that one that make me wish for a stronger Metro Vancouver in the vein of Greater London that would be able to overrule it.


Luckily, I don't think enough people want to go to an entertainment district far outside Surrey's urban centre, across a river from New West's, and surrounded by highways, railroads, and port traffic for the whole vision to take off, anyways. Imagine they got their way? The place ends up loaded with shops, entertainment, condos, etc, mixing all that traffic with all the freight traffic coming via the SFPR or the railyards through to the Fraser Port, Tilbury, and beyond? It'd be like Abbotsford's "let's make a car-centric shopping mall whose main entrance is attached to the Mt. Lehman Hwy 1 interchange" mess but possibly worse.