[Halifax] Navy Lane Condos (2183 Gottingen) | 24 m | 8 fl | U/C

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by counterfactual

Local reporters are incredibly lazy when it comes to planning stories.

All media has become lazy in researching facts. News seems to be more about entertainment these days than actually relaying important facts to the public. IMHO, the internet-based "news" sites tend to be the worst *cough* MSN *cough*.....

[Hali87]

Originally Posted by counterfactual

They file the appeal, because they want to drive up costs. They want to make every single development a battle. By challenging everything, they drive up the costs of development, for everyone, but mostly for parties considering developing property. This means they likely chill some proposals from ever getting built, due to tighter margins. They're in the business of stopping everything they can, even if the law or process is not on their side.

Who is "they" in this case?

[worldlyhaligonian]

Originally Posted by Hali87

Who is "they" in this case?

I'd say the "human scale" crowd, or any who claim requested variances from policies (i.e. guidelines) are "illegal".

[someone123]

There kind of is a "they" when it comes to development appeals on the peninsula. Appeals are often led by the same people, plus a few locals. Beverly Miller has likely personally participated in a large percentage of appeals on the peninsula, for example.

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

All media has become lazy in researching facts. News seems to be more about entertainment these days than actually relaying important facts to the public. IMHO, the internet-based "news" sites tend to be the worst *cough* MSN *cough*.....

totally!

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by Hali87

Who is "they" in this case?

Someone123 nailed this, above.

[Dmajackson]

Originally Posted by someone123

There kind of is a "they" when it comes to development appeals on the peninsula. Appeals are often led by the same people, plus a few locals. Beverly Miller has likely personally participated in a large percentage of appeals on the peninsula, for example.

I still haven't been to a single municipal meeting on the peninsula that Bev Miller hasn't shown up to. She was at the University Avenue bike lane meeting earlier tonight. She even butted herself into a conversation I was having although she did apologize later. It's nice occasionally to go out to a Bedford meeting where the BANANA's don't congregate.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by someone123

There kind of is a "they" when it comes to development appeals on the peninsula. Appeals are often led by the same people, plus a few locals. Beverly Miller has likely personally participated in a large percentage of appeals on the peninsula, for example.

Ms. Miller is named as one of the appellants in this case, along with Edelstein and others.

[someone123]

The appeal to the NSURB was rejected. There may be a third appeal to the NS Court of Appeal, but unless that happens this development can proceed.

Hopefully there is no third appeal. One major problem with Gottingen right now is simply that it doesn't have enough residents to support the number of storefronts on the street. Higher density buildings are needed for this part of town to live up to its potential.

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by someone123

The appeal to the NSURB was rejected. There may be a third appeal to the NS Court of Appeal, but unless that happens this development can proceed.

Hopefully there is no third appeal. One major problem with Gottingen right now is simply that it doesn't have enough residents to support the number of storefronts on the street. Higher density buildings are needed for this part of town to live up to its potential.

But, but, but... CHANGE IS BAD. APPEAL TO THE SUPREME COURT!

[JET]

Originally Posted by someone123

The appeal to the NSURB was rejected. There may be a third appeal to the NS Court of Appeal, but unless that happens this development can proceed.

Hopefully there is no third appeal. One major problem with Gottingen right now is simply that it doesn't have enough residents to support the number of storefronts on the street. Higher density buildings are needed for this part of town to live up to its potential.

It's interesting that when this proposal first came out there were a number of new buildings on Gottingen, but almost all of the first floor storefronts were empty; now they are mostly full, very nice to see.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by JET

It's interesting that when this proposal first came out there were a number of new buildings on Gottingen, but almost all of the first floor storefronts were empty; now they are mostly full, very nice to see.

I think there's a bit of lag between new construction, people moving in, and then new businesses moving in and business itself actually picking up. We likely won't see the full impact of the projects under construction on Barrington for another 3-4 years, for example.

[someone123]

The third appeal of this project was rejected. It sounds like the developer might be free to move forward with construction now. Not sure what the timeline is.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Sounds like a step in the right direction. It'll be good to see something finally built on the old Misty Moon site...

http://www.metronews.ca/news/halifax/201...taff-and-regulars-of-misty-moon-bar.html

[hokus83]

so are these projects dead now? Did the crazy bus stop lady that wanted to plant strawberries in the gravel lots win

[IanWatson]

No, the appeals were dismissed and they have permission to build.

These have actually been in AllNS in the past couple of days. They're looking for the city to waive a bunch of development fees + enter into some sort of tax abatement to help support the affordable housing component.

[JET]

Originally Posted by IanWatson

No, the appeals were dismissed and they have permission to build.

These have actually been in AllNS in the past couple of days. They're looking for the city to waive a bunch of development fees + enter into some sort of tax abatement to help support the affordable housing component.

Given the # of affordable housing units that are proposed, I hope that the city will assist.

[hokus83]

Still nothing going on with these. Are you guys sure this one isn't dead

[IanWatson]

Originally Posted by hokus83

Still nothing going on with these. Are you guys sure this one isn't dead

These are Ross Cantwell, same guy as Velo Lofts across the street. Wouldn't be surprised if these were less of a focus until Velo nears completion.

[planarchy]

Originally Posted by IanWatson

These are Ross Cantwell, same guy as Velo Lofts across the street. Wouldn't be surprised if these were less of a focus until Velo nears completion.

They have until June 2019 to start them under the existing DA unless they ask for an extension. Although its weird that the Centre Plan is proposing to match the heights as-of-right, which is higher than all surrounding lands. Meaning there is an incentive to discharge the DA, sell the land, and build as-of-right with 100% market.

This project is so screwy though. Housing Nova Scotia put up the money to puchase the land, in exchange for affordable units to be completed by sometime in 2011. The agreement was never updated to reflect a new timeline and the "affordable" rents contained in the agreement are higher than market rents in Ocean Towers.

It is difficult to know what is really going to happen on these sites....