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Old Posted Aug 13, 2021, 9:12 AM
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2020 Census Population Figures for the Top 5 Most Populous CSA's:

New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area:
2020: 23,582,679
2010: 22,255,491
Change: +1,327,188 (+5.96%)

Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 18,644,680
2010: 17,877,006
Change: +767,674 (+4.29%)

Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,986,960
2010: 9,840,929
Change: +146,031 (+1.48%)

Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,973,383
2010: 9,050,192
Change: +923,191 (+10.20%)

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,720,023
2010: 8,923,942
Change: +796,081 (+8.92%)

Commentary:
To start off, the New York Metro area defied premature predictions of its decline, growing an astounding 1.3 million people in the past decade, which in terms of numerical growth puts it on the level of growth Dallas or Houston metro areas experience. What's more interesting is how concentrated this population growth was in the metro area: New York City proper grew by 630,000 people alone between 2010-2020, accounting for about half of the entire metro area's growth. This is in contrast to other metro areas, where population growth is far more concentrated in the suburbs. A caveat however, is that this is likely due to the Census Bureau discovering 265,000 housing units that had been missing from the bureau’s list, and not all neccesarily of it due to new growth during the past decade

For Los Angeles, it experienced a major slowdown in population growth in the 2010-20 decade. Before the 2010's, Greater LA had been the fastest-growing metro area in the US by numerical growth for decades, growing 1.5 million people between 2000 and 2010, compared to New York's growth of a 700K during the same decade. This decade, in contrast, LA's growth halved to just 767,674 new residents. Arguably, the prime cause of this population slowdown is the ballooning housing costs in the region, and California in general, often as a result of local housing restrictions constraining housing supply, despite the growth in jobs; in the last decade, for every 5 jobs that LA has gains, it builds only 1 new home. Thus, it will be interesting to see if recent escalation in actions by the state housing department against local housing restrictions, such as imposing mandatory zoning quotas for at least 1.3 million new housing units (for possibly 3 million new potential residents) for the Greater LA region by 2029, will reverse this slowdown. With the massive rail infrastructure expansions coming online for the 2028 Olympics in the coming decade, LA also has great potential to transform itself and embrace urban densification growth in the coming years, similar to how NYC has done last decade.

Chicago's results for the 2020 census also surprised expectations; where the metro region was expected to show a big population decline in the census, it still grew by almost 150 thousand new residents. Still, Chicago faces challenges which LA or NYC do not; unlike these two metro regions, Chicago lies inland, isolated from the coasts. This makes it harder for Chicago to attract immigrants to its region relative to NYC or LA. Chicago's weather also does it no favor, with the heavy winter weather helping to cause huge outflows of its residents to warmer sunbelt states. Other broader historical factors and trends, such as the general decline in heavy industry in the US, has also hurt Chicago's appeal, with declining industrial jobs and the shuttering of its once-massive steel industries. In any case, Chicago has for a while been the slowest growing out of the top 5 US metro areas, and had it not grown at all during the 2010's, the DC-Baltimore area would have overtaken it.

The DC-Baltimore metro area experienced very fast growth between 2010 and 2020, growing by over 900,000 people, and with the greatest percentage growth out of the 5 biggest metro areas. This is likely driven by the rapid increase in corporate presence in the region, most particularly in aerospace and defense companies. Companies such as Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, Raytheon, among others, have expanded their corporate presences in the metro area, in order to be closer to the political center of the country. Furthermore, the region has attracted tech companies to increase their presence in the region. The most notable is Amazon, which is planning to built its "HQ2" campus in Crystal City, Virginia, a subcenter of the DC metropolitan area.

The San Francisco Bay Area's population growth is pretty self-explanatory. The explosive growth in digital tech firms during the 2010's definitely fueled rapid growth in the Bay Area, centered around the area known as Silicon Valley (a moniker less accurate these days, as semiconductor production has largely relocated to Asia and Oregon/Arizona away from the Bay Area). But in any case, the region faces much of the same problems that Greater Los Angeles faces: spiralling housing costs. The average cost of a home in San Francisco has now reached $1.5 million, with prices in other parts of the region ballooning as a result of the tech boom. While chatter of a major exodus from the Bay Area and California is largely overrated (judging by the census figures), the underlying trend of lower-income and working class people being priced out and forced to relocate to far-off exurbs, or simply move out of the region altogether. There is a growing trend of super-commutes in the Bay Area; many workers are relocating to once sleepy towns such as Tracy and Stockton (hours inland from the Bay Area) in order to take advantage of cheaper housing costs. Then again, like LA, it will be interesting to see if the Bay Area can wrestle back its exploding housing costs. Like with LA, the State of California has imposed a zoning mandate for about 440,000 new housing units for cities in the Bay Area over the next decade.
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Not out of the question, no. But unlikely, as the city of Atlanta hasn't historically captured anywhere near that much of the regional growth. If Atlanta were to grow by 80k people it would be the second largest raw population increase in the city's history.

huh, it looks like that is exactly what happened - 420 -> 499k
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Have the urban area populations been released or computed?
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Interesting figures, especially the chart showing the decline in house construction, which is an endemic failure across many western countries.

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New York City and London are basically neck-to-neck in terms of population. Will be interesting to see which one reaches 10 million first
According to 2019 estimates, London’s population hit 8.986mn. The ONS opted to void 2020 figures due to COVID-19, and the 2021 Census results (due for release March/April 2022) will probably have an asterisk due to the volatility in data collection. One of the peculiarities of the census I found was the lack of COVID-19 specific questions in terms of working, commuting and residence, as to whether their COVID-19 situation was temporary or permanent. Realistically, London’s population fell over the previous year, which probably means the population is somewhere at or below the 9mn mark.

Going forward, estimates are anyone’s game. If London returned the average annual growth rate of 100,000 per annum that it managed from 2001-2019, then it wouldn’t be inconceivable to see it reach the 10mn mark sometime after 2030.

Population growth of course is a double-edged sword; it needs a corresponding increase in infrastructure and other amenities to avoid urban areas becoming oppressive.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2021, 11:33 AM
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^ London is going to shrink due to Brexit.

And anyway, the city proper population comparison is quite meaningless given London is almost twice the size of NYC (610 square miles vs 350 square miles). In metro area terms, NYC has been much larger than London for some time.

Chicago is about to go from 3rd to 5th largest US metro.
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Canada’s 2021 census was similarly skewed in that it didn’t ask for specific details regarding covid, my form specifically asked for my commuting mode on the day I filled it out, which was work from home, even though now 3 months later I’m back in the office again.

Commuting data especially will likely be useless from most censuses in the next few years, but I don’t think anyone really knows where modal shares are going to land anyway. It will be interesting to see.
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Chicago is about to go from 3rd to 5th largest US metro.
Only at the CSA level, which is more of a regional measure than a true "metro area".

At the MSA level and UA level, Chicagoland is still comfortably in 3rd place, and will be for some time to come.

In any event, Chicago's CSA was already supposed to slide to 5th place going by census estimates that had it shrinking, but it's surprise growth kept it ever so barely at 3rd for one more census.
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Mesa, AZ passed 500k milestone. Nipping at the heels of slow-growth Tucson. Should pass up Tucson to become the second largest city in Arizona in a couple years.

Mesa: 504,258
Tucson: 542,629

Then there's Chandler and Gilbert (adjacent to Mesa, suburbs of Phoenix)
Gilbert: 267,918
Chandler: 275,987

That's a total of population 1,048,163 just in Mesa, Chandler, Gilbert and would be larger than San Jose if it were a consolidated city.
Edit - If you add in Tempe and Scottsdale then the 5 East Valley suburbs of Phoenix, are closing in on the city of Phoenix.
East Valley - 1,470,111
Phoenix - 1,608,139

Is Mesa the largest suburb in the nation???

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Fort Worth, TX is about to hit the 1 million person milestone.
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huh, it looks like that is exactly what happened - 420 -> 499k
My post of Atlanta capturing 10% of the metro's growth was essentially dead on lol.
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2020 Census Population Figures for the Top 5 Most Populous CSA's:

New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area:
2020: 23,582,679
2010: 22,255,491
Change: +1,327,188 (+5.96%)

Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 18,644,680
2010: 17,877,006
Change: +767,674 (+4.29%)

Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,986,960
2010: 9,840,929
Change: +146,031 (+1.48%)

Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,973,383
2010: 9,050,192
Change: +923,191 (+10.20%)

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,720,023
2010: 8,923,942
Change: +796,081 (+8.92%)

Commentary:
To start off, the New York Metro area defied premature predictions of its decline, growing an astounding 1.3 million people in the past decade, which in terms of numerical growth puts it on the level of growth Dallas or Houston metro areas experience. What's more interesting is how concentrated this population growth was in the metro area: New York City proper grew by 630,000 people alone between 2010-2020, accounting for about half of the entire metro area's growth. This is in contrast to other metro areas, where population growth is far more concentrated in the suburbs. A caveat however, is that this is likely due to the Census Bureau discovering 265,000 housing units that had been missing from the bureau’s list, and not all neccesarily of it due to new growth during the past decade

For Los Angeles, it experienced a major slowdown in population growth in the 2010-20 decade. Before the 2010's, Greater LA had been the fastest-growing metro area in the US by numerical growth for decades, growing 1.5 million people between 2000 and 2010, compared to New York's growth of a 700K during the same decade. This decade, in contrast, LA's growth halved to just 767,674 new residents. Arguably, the prime cause of this population slowdown is the ballooning housing costs in the region, and California in general, often as a result of local housing restrictions constraining housing supply, despite the growth in jobs; in the last decade, for every 5 jobs that LA has gains, it builds only 1 new home. Thus, it will be interesting to see if recent escalation in actions by the state housing department against local housing restrictions, such as imposing mandatory zoning quotas for at least 1.3 million new housing units (for possibly 3 million new potential residents) for the Greater LA region by 2029, will reverse this slowdown. With the massive rail infrastructure expansions coming online for the 2028 Olympics in the coming decade, LA also has great potential to transform itself and embrace urban densification growth in the coming years, similar to how NYC has done last decade.

Chicago's results for the 2020 census also surprised expectations; where the metro region was expected to show a big population decline in the census, it still grew by almost 150 thousand new residents. Still, Chicago faces challenges which LA or NYC do not; unlike these two metro regions, Chicago lies inland, isolated from the coasts. This makes it harder for Chicago to attract immigrants to its region relative to NYC or LA. Chicago's weather also does it no favor, with the heavy winter weather helping to cause huge outflows of its residents to warmer sunbelt states. Other broader historical factors and trends, such as the general decline in heavy industry in the US, has also hurt Chicago's appeal, with declining industrial jobs and the shuttering of its once-massive steel industries. In any case, Chicago has for a while been the slowest growing out of the top 5 US metro areas, and had it not grown at all during the 2010's, the DC-Baltimore area would have overtaken it.

The DC-Baltimore metro area experienced very fast growth between 2010 and 2020, growing by over 900,000 people, and with the greatest percentage growth out of the 5 biggest metro areas. This is likely driven by the rapid increase in corporate presence in the region, most particularly in aerospace and defense companies. Companies such as Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, Raytheon, among others, have expanded their corporate presences in the metro area, in order to be closer to the political center of the country. Furthermore, the region has attracted tech companies to increase their presence in the region. The most notable is Amazon, which is planning to built its "HQ2" campus in Crystal City, Virginia, a subcenter of the DC metropolitan area.

The San Francisco Bay Area's population growth is pretty self-explanatory. The explosive growth in digital tech firms during the 2010's definitely fueled rapid growth in the Bay Area, centered around the area known as Silicon Valley (a moniker less accurate these days, as semiconductor production has largely relocated to Asia and Oregon/Arizona away from the Bay Area). But in any case, the region faces much of the same problems that Greater Los Angeles faces: spiralling housing costs. The average cost of a home in San Francisco has now reached $1.5 million, with prices in other parts of the region ballooning as a result of the tech boom. While chatter of a major exodus from the Bay Area and California is largely overrated (judging by the census figures), the underlying trend of lower-income and working class people being priced out and forced to relocate to far-off exurbs, or simply move out of the region altogether. There is a growing trend of super-commutes in the Bay Area; many workers are relocating to once sleepy towns such as Tracy and Stockton (hours inland from the Bay Area) in order to take advantage of cheaper housing costs. Then again, like LA, it will be interesting to see if the Bay Area can wrestle back its exploding housing costs. Like with LA, the State of California has imposed a zoning mandate for about 440,000 new housing units for cities in the Bay Area over the next decade.
California cities need to encourage more high density development, especially along transit routes. At average housing costs for the state approaching $1 million and more, they have their work cut out for them. I would not be surprised if Las Vegas and Reno accelerate their growth next decade. Chicago's inland location is not a disadvantage to immigrants; many inland cities attract immigrants, such as Minneapolis with Somalis and Chicago with Mexicans and South Asians in past decades. It will be interesting what the next decade brings - I would not be surprised if NYC and DC see a big slowdown in growth as those areas are also quite expensive for average working people.
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Is there city-level data available for the 2020 census? I'm only able to find 2019 estimates or wider MSA numbers for 2020.
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Philadelphia grew by almost 80K residents or 5.1% (back to) over 1.6MM people. If you were to walk or drive through nearly any part of Philadelphia, including what would be the most (traditionally) disinvested parts of the city, you will see construction literally everywhere.

I'd argue it's probably still and undercount of 25k or more residents. There are individual neighborhoods that have 5,000 or more housing units under construction in or in the construction pipeline.

It's totally impressive.

Each county in Southeast PA grew by 5-10+%. While every county in other parts of the state with the exception of 3 in the Pittsburgh area and a handful of others shrunk by 5-10% or more.

Hopefully this helps to shift the balance of power in the state as more and more of our legislative districts are created in SE PA and others are eliminated and consolidated in the remainder of the state.

Overall the state added between only 300 and 400K people in the last decade, but the southeastern counties added roughly 600K people to their population counts. This means the rest of the state lost about 300K folks.

The same can be said of New York and New Jersey. People think of them as reliably blue states but there are large swaths of red in far south Jersey and Northern New York. The explosive growth in and around NYC, including in North Jersey, will shift legislative boundaries to more liberal areas.

The talk has been about Republicans gerrymandering the hell out of urban areas to try to eliminate seats for Democrats, but part of me doesn't see how that is possible (I know they'll try) given how nearly all the growth has been in and around cities. Even in more conservative Sunbelt states, how can you gerrymander Dallas county when it adds another 600K reliably Democratic voters? I don't know Texas politics well but part of me believes the shenangins there are actually being driven by the fact that Republicans in TX know that after the redistricting process it's going to consolidate more and more power in liberal counties with explosive growth like Dallas, Tarrant, Travis, Harris, Collin, and Denton. The rural areas of Texas (with a few exceptions) are shrinking just like they are everywhere else.
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What happened to Aurora, Illinois? Third worst percentage drop in the country, after Jackson, Mississippi and Detroit.
You have to get to #27 - Detroit - before you get to a city that's lost population. I bet it's been many decades since that happened.
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For some reason, perhaps it was political in the 2010 Census -- East Honolulu (the most conservative area in the City) was separated from Honolulu's original CDP (Census Designated Place) but if it were kept the same (pre-2010) it would have finally passed the 400K mark at 401,886 (+14,716) in 2020. The new CDP (without East Honolulu) was 350,964 in 2020 up 13,708.
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^ London is going to shrink due to Brexit.

And anyway, the city proper population comparison is quite meaningless given London is almost twice the size of NYC (610 square miles vs 350 square miles). In metro area terms, NYC has been much larger than London for some time.

Chicago is about to go from 3rd to 5th largest US metro.
NYC city proper is actually about 300 sq. miles. So Greater London is slightly more than twice the physical size.

Anyways, the two aren't apples-apples comparable. Greater London isn't a municipality, it's a region, and a huge chunk of Greater London's geography is suburban, and more like the Home Counties. If Bronxville or Montclair or Great Neck were in the UK, they'd probably be in Greater London.

And it's really metro areas that define city size. "NY" has been more populous than "London" since probably the 1920's-1930's or thereabouts.
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Fort Worth, TX is about to hit the 1 million person milestone.
918,915
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Fort Worth __+23.98%
Austin_____ +21.69%
Seattle____ +21.09%
Charlotte __+19.57%
Denver___ +19.22%

New York City___629,057
Houston________204,317
Fort Worth______177,709
Austin_________171,465
Phoenix________162,507
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2020 Census Population Figures for the Top 5 Most Populous CSA's:

New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area:
2020: 23,582,679
2010: 22,255,491
Change: +1,327,188 (+5.96%)

Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 18,644,680
2010: 17,877,006
Change: +767,674 (+4.29%)

Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,986,960
2010: 9,840,929
Change: +146,031 (+1.48%)

Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,973,383
2010: 9,050,192
Change: +923,191 (+10.20%)

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA Combined Statistical Area
2020: 9,720,023
2010: 8,923,942
Change: +796,081 (+8.92%)

Commentary:
To start off, the New York Metro area defied premature predictions of its decline, growing an astounding 1.3 million people in the past decade, which in terms of numerical growth puts it on the level of growth Dallas or Houston metro areas experience. What's more interesting is how concentrated this population growth was in the metro area: New York City proper grew by 630,000 people alone between 2010-2020, accounting for about half of the entire metro area's growth. This is in contrast to other metro areas, where population growth is far more concentrated in the suburbs. A caveat however, is that this is likely due to the Census Bureau discovering 265,000 housing units that had been missing from the bureau’s list, and not all neccesarily of it due to new growth during the past decade

For Los Angeles, it experienced a major slowdown in population growth in the 2010-20 decade. Before the 2010's, Greater LA had been the fastest-growing metro area in the US by numerical growth for decades, growing 1.5 million people between 2000 and 2010, compared to New York's growth of a 700K during the same decade. This decade, in contrast, LA's growth halved to just 767,674 new residents. Arguably, the prime cause of this population slowdown is the ballooning housing costs in the region, and California in general, often as a result of local housing restrictions constraining housing supply, despite the growth in jobs; in the last decade, for every 5 jobs that LA has gains, it builds only 1 new home. Thus, it will be interesting to see if recent escalation in actions by the state housing department against local housing restrictions, such as imposing mandatory zoning quotas for at least 1.3 million new housing units (for possibly 3 million new potential residents) for the Greater LA region by 2029, will reverse this slowdown. With the massive rail infrastructure expansions coming online for the 2028 Olympics in the coming decade, LA also has great potential to transform itself and embrace urban densification growth in the coming years, similar to how NYC has done last decade.

Chicago's results for the 2020 census also surprised expectations; where the metro region was expected to show a big population decline in the census, it still grew by almost 150 thousand new residents. Still, Chicago faces challenges which LA or NYC do not; unlike these two metro regions, Chicago lies inland, isolated from the coasts. This makes it harder for Chicago to attract immigrants to its region relative to NYC or LA. Chicago's weather also does it no favor, with the heavy winter weather helping to cause huge outflows of its residents to warmer sunbelt states. Other broader historical factors and trends, such as the general decline in heavy industry in the US, has also hurt Chicago's appeal, with declining industrial jobs and the shuttering of its once-massive steel industries. In any case, Chicago has for a while been the slowest growing out of the top 5 US metro areas, and had it not grown at all during the 2010's, the DC-Baltimore area would have overtaken it.

The DC-Baltimore metro area experienced very fast growth between 2010 and 2020, growing by over 900,000 people, and with the greatest percentage growth out of the 5 biggest metro areas. This is likely driven by the rapid increase in corporate presence in the region, most particularly in aerospace and defense companies. Companies such as Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, Raytheon, among others, have expanded their corporate presences in the metro area, in order to be closer to the political center of the country. Furthermore, the region has attracted tech companies to increase their presence in the region. The most notable is Amazon, which is planning to built its "HQ2" campus in Crystal City, Virginia, a subcenter of the DC metropolitan area.

The San Francisco Bay Area's population growth is pretty self-explanatory. The explosive growth in digital tech firms during the 2010's definitely fueled rapid growth in the Bay Area, centered around the area known as Silicon Valley (a moniker less accurate these days, as semiconductor production has largely relocated to Asia and Oregon/Arizona away from the Bay Area). But in any case, the region faces much of the same problems that Greater Los Angeles faces: spiralling housing costs. The average cost of a home in San Francisco has now reached $1.5 million, with prices in other parts of the region ballooning as a result of the tech boom. While chatter of a major exodus from the Bay Area and California is largely overrated (judging by the census figures), the underlying trend of lower-income and working class people being priced out and forced to relocate to far-off exurbs, or simply move out of the region altogether. There is a growing trend of super-commutes in the Bay Area; many workers are relocating to once sleepy towns such as Tracy and Stockton (hours inland from the Bay Area) in order to take advantage of cheaper housing costs. Then again, like LA, it will be interesting to see if the Bay Area can wrestle back its exploding housing costs. Like with LA, the State of California has imposed a zoning mandate for about 440,000 new housing units for cities in the Bay Area over the next decade.
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And it's really metro areas that define city size. "NY" has been more populous than "London" since probably the 1920's-1930's or thereabouts.
Yeah, New York overtook London as the largest urban area in the world in the 1920s. Tokyo overtook New York in the 1960s and still holds the title today.
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California cities need to encourage more high density development, especially along transit routes. At average housing costs for the state approaching $1 million and more, they have their work cut out for them. I would not be surprised if Las Vegas and Reno accelerate their growth next decade. Chicago's inland location is not a disadvantage to immigrants; many inland cities attract immigrants, such as Minneapolis with Somalis and Chicago with Mexicans and South Asians in past decades. It will be interesting what the next decade brings - I would not be surprised if NYC and DC see a big slowdown in growth as those areas are also quite expensive for average working people.
I always wonder what the stats would be like if they were more affordable or say we really ramped up the amount of units being built. In places like NJ and NYC for example.
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