Lansdowne Park Redevelopment Phase 1 | Completed

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

In answer to GlassCity


uOttawa is building a small campus stadium right now. They hoped to have it for this September, but constructionn problems has delayed it until November.
They will play on a borrowed field this season. The campus stadium will have a bubble dome over the field this, and every winter, for university and community use.

When Frank Clair is rebuilt, the Gee-Gees will have the option to use it at times. The plan is to play at FC when it is perceived that a game will draw a larger crowd than the small campus stadium will hold.

Carleton U in Ottawa will have a football team starting in 2013. They too will have their own small campus stadium. They too will opt to play at FC when there is a game that is likely to draw more fans than the campus stadium can hold.

I hope this clarifies things a bit.

Yeah, definitely. Looking forward to seeing this all come together.

[Udon'tknow]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

CFL; looking at 2014, could be 2015 (http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/06/16/cfls-return-could-be-delayed-mayor)

Stadium; still a go, not started yet. Legal hurdles had to be cleared.

Completion; 2014/2015 area

Legal hurdles; as of yesterday, they seem to be cleared; stand by

I hope you guys don’t go thru the same thing. Thanks for your intrest and if you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.

Cool, thanks for the info. Glad to hear the legal hurdles are cleared, looking forward to some construction pics and Ottawa rejoining the league!

[KHOOLE]

I just updated my Picasa album on the Lansdowne Park construction site.

https://picasaweb.google.com/jcdube2001/LansdowneParkConstructionSiteStartingAugust2012#

I don't understand the foundations for the relocated Horticulture Building. Will that underground space be used for something?

BTW, work is being done internally on the FC Stadium

[MountainView]

Great set of pictures. Thanks for sharing and keeping us updated!

[ThaLoveDocta]

Originally Posted by KHOOLE

I just updated my Picasa album on the Lansdowne Park construction site.

https://picasaweb.google.com/jcdube2001/LansdowneParkConstructionSiteStartingAugust2012#

I don't understand the foundations for the relocated Horticulture Building. Will that underground space be used for something?

BTW, work is being done internally on the FC Stadium

Not sure exactly which foundations you meant... but i presume it's these:

Those are just pad footings to support piers. They will likely be back filled inside and out with Granular B. Sometimes these are mass excavated (as is the case here) rather than individually excavated when the soil conditions are not suitable to remain in place.

And yes, most buildings have ridiculously large pad footings like that now. this is a result of changes to the building code to accommodate (mostly) earthquake loading.


Great pics, thanks for sharing!

[McC]

Originally Posted by ThaLoveDocta

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and thank YOU for sharing some technical expertise!

[ThaLoveDocta]

Originally Posted by McC

and thank YOU for sharing some technical expertise!

Interestingly it looks like they have poured 'mudslabs' beneath the pad footings to come (note the dark looking concrete on the left and the loosely dug holes at the front of the picture). Usually these are used when the soil bearing is not sufficient to support the required loads, even with the large bearing surface of the pad footing.

(Think column capitals widening to increase load area - only upside down)

So glad to finally see some progress on this site.

[J.OT13]

When are they suppose to build the PK Garage? Horticulture is suppose to have direct access to it, right?

Great to see progress on this after so many years of time wastin'.

[KHOOLE]

Originally Posted by ThaLoveDocta

Not sure exactly which foundations you meant... but i presume it's these:

Those are just pad footings to support piers. They will likely be back filled inside and out with Granular B. Sometimes these are mass excavated (as is the case here) rather than individually excavated when the soil conditions are not suitable to remain in place.

And yes, most buildings have ridiculously large pad footings like that now. this is a result of changes to the building code to accommodate (mostly) earthquake loading.


Great pics, thanks for sharing!

Thank you for explanation. Much appreciated.
I'm presently out of town. Will back in about 10 days and will take more pictures (on a sunny day). The big move was said to be for the end of September. Hope that I don't miss it. Stay tuned.

[Huche]

A few shots of progress on Horticultural building foundation. Taken yesterday.

https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#AC5WXqd9JI3q6 sorry for the duplicates. You can't remove them easily.

[KHOOLE]

Construction site pictures updated Sept 20, 2012

https://picasaweb.google.com/jcdube2001/LansdowneParkConstructionSiteStartingAugust2012#

Public gallery. Help yourself. Credit appreciated.
Will be culling pictures when Picasa album gets too big next year.

[jchamoun79]

More fear-mongering nonsense from the whiners in the Glebe.

Glebe residents worried about Lansdowne’s ‘toxic’ berm

Soil containing toxic leftovers from boilers and refrigeration units does 'not pose hazard to human health,' says City

By Andrew Duffy, The Ottawa Citizen September 22, 2012

OTTAWA — Some Glebe residents want the province to impose better safeguards on the construction of a large earthen berm at Lansdowne Park.

The 10-metre high berm, which is to be built east of Frank Clair Stadium, will include tonnes of contaminated soil excavated from the construction site.

The City of Ottawa could have trucked all of the soil to a landfill, but instead chose to reuse most of the excavated material, which contains petroleum hydrocarbons, heavy metals and poly-aromatic hydrocarbons.

The chemicals are toxic leftovers from boilers and refrigeration units that once operated on the 15-hectare site.

Part of the site was also contaminated by garbage — up to five metres deep in places — which was used to fill in an old inlet from the Rideau Canal.

The landfill included materials such as wood, metal, ashes, cinder, coal, bricks and decayed organic material.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/technology/...boilers+refrigeration/7285632/story.html

[citizen j]

Mmmmmm, poly-aromatic hydrocarbons!
I wonder if they have the vanilla-scented ones?

[McC]

Originally Posted by citizen j

poly-aromatic hydrocarbons

Are there no monogamous hydrocarbons anymore? This is what they warned us about when we legalized same-sex marriage.

[Postmaster]

They must be worried about leachate that could pollute the pristine and pure waters of the canal.

[alecz_dad]

No, I think it is more fact-mongering caution out of genuine concern:
* from adjacent residents about what toxins have been blowing around during the course of the excavations;
* that contaminants continue to blow off the giant mounds of exposed soil, that would normally have to be removed offsite to an appropriate disposal site;
* that after having been blended up with other non-contaminated soil it will be impossible to obtain accurate levels of different contaminants found in soils from the different locations around the site; and
* that the soils are going to be re-entombed without an impermeable liner and leachate pumping system, to prevent the contaminated soil that will all now be located immediately next to the Canal, from potentially leaching toxins into the groundwater and by way of the Canal into the Ottawa River ecosystem.

Also, one of the main arguments given why a redeveloped stadium at Lansdowne was better than a new stadium located at Bayview Yards - which is much better located so far as its location at a major mass public transit hub and several bridges from Quebec - was because of the costs of contaminated soil remediation at Bayview, yet now it seems Lansdowne had plenty of contamination to deal with too.

So, nonsense? No, I don't think so.

Originally Posted by jchamoun79

More fear-mongering nonsense from the whiners in the Glebe.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/technology/...boilers+refrigeration/7285632/story.html

[ThaLoveDocta]

Originally Posted by alecz_dad

* that after having been blended up with other non-contaminated soil it will be impossible to obtain accurate levels of different contaminants found in soils from the different locations around the site
So, nonsense? No, I don't think so.

Actually, this is, most often, how soils are remediated.

So, yes, it is a little non-sensical.


If you have 1 ton of 10% contaminated, and 100 tonnes of 0% contaminated, and mix them together on site, you can now remove your 101 tonnes of 1% contaminated soil under most provincial and municipal regulations as "fullly remidiated" (for example - percentages vary)

**GASP**

[phil235]

Originally Posted by alecz_dad

No, I think it is more fact-mongering caution out of genuine concern:
* from adjacent residents about what toxins have been blowing around during the course of the excavations;
* that contaminants continue to blow off the giant mounds of exposed soil, that would normally have to be removed offsite to an appropriate disposal site;
* that after having been blended up with other non-contaminated soil it will be impossible to obtain accurate levels of different contaminants found in soils from the different locations around the site; and
* that the soils are going to be re-entombed without an impermeable liner and leachate pumping system, to prevent the contaminated soil that will all now be located immediately next to the Canal, from potentially leaching toxins into the groundwater and by way of the Canal into the Ottawa River ecosystem.

...

So, nonsense? No, I don't think so.

Two additional problems with these comments. First, the suggestion that this soil should be removed to "an appropriate disposal site" really means that you just want it to be somewhere else. Foisting local problems on someone else by sending your contamination to some remote area is a typical NIMBY sentiment and is not good policy.

Second, the contaminated soil, complete with leaching issues, has been there for years, just like the sea of crumbling asphalt. There was no public outcry until the Lansdowne project began. Why is that? And why is this outcry coming from the exact same group of people that has opposed the project as a whole?

The problem is that these complaints lack credibility. (Mind you, not as much as the complaints about the loss of parkland as the City plans construction of a massive urban park.) The approach taken by this group - complain about every aspect of the project and hope something sticks - means that none of the complaints are being taken seriously anymore.

I really believe that the interests of the community would have been much better served if a constructive approach had been taken from the beginning. People posting pages from the Lorax on fences have to recognize that they are not going to be seen as people with genuine, balanced arguments to make.

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by jchamoun79

The City of Ottawa could have trucked all of the soil to a landfill, but instead chose to reuse most of the excavated material, which contains petroleum hydrocarbons, heavy metals and poly-aromatic hydrocarbons.

The chemicals are toxic leftovers from boilers and refrigeration units that once operated on the 15-hectare site.

Part of the site was also contaminated by garbage — up to five metres deep in places — which was used to fill in an old inlet from the Rideau Canal.

The landfill included materials such as wood, metal, ashes, cinder, coal, bricks and decayed organic material.

Well, at least there's no dog poop! Had the site ever been an actual Park, they might have had to deal with that too.

[waterloowarrior]

some big Lansdowne reports coming out tomorrow
http://www.capitalward.ca/en/lansdowne/media/610-final-lansdowne-recommendation-due-tuesday