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Old Posted Jan 6, 2023, 9:09 PM
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I don't think there was any chance of the casino going anywhere but Rideau-Carleton. I remember vividly that King Watson wouldn't listen to any other bidder, any argument, any proposal...it was just Rideau Carleton or bust for him. Still makes me wonder what was going on behind the scenes.
Agreed. He and Moffatt pushed really hard for that one.

I'm honestly surprised he didn't try to convince OSEG to raise their hand, in which case, we would have seen a competition, and OSEG would have won. Maybe he did ask OSEG and they weren't interested.
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I think table games came back a few weeks ago. Removed because of the pandemic?

I think Watson bet on the wrong horse. 10 years later and still just a "future Hard Rock". Would love to see an alternate universe where we had a proper competition.
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Is there a geographic restriction on the number of casino's in the Ottawa region?
Not sure what to call that but...ie. no casino's can be built within 5km of Lac Leamy?
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Way back when, Mayor Watson considered a proposal to build a downtown casino. However the decision was made that there would be too many vagrants and we didn't want gambling addicted people to access the casino from downtown. You must be rich enough to own a car before you can donate your money to a casino. So then the plan was hatched to allow for Rideau-Carleton to expand, and voila you have the long long long long term Hard-Rock plan, hatched like 8 years ago.
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Is there a geographic restriction on the number of casino's in the Ottawa region?
Not sure what to call that but...ie. no casino's can be built within 5km of Lac Leamy?
No. Two different provinces, two different systems. Watson was just doing a favour to his friends out of the blue. Maybe it was for Moffatt.
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Lancement officiel des travaux d’expansion au casino Hard Rock à Ottawa

Par Charles-Antoine Gagnon, Le Droit
6 juin 2023




Après quelques années de retard, la traditionnelle première pelletée de terre aura lieu aujourd’hui pour la construction d’un hôtel sur le site du casino Rideau-Carleton d’Ottawa et pour l’agrandissement de la maison de jeux, un complexe qui portera la bannière Hard Rock.

La cérémonie se déroulera en présence du maire d’Ottawa, Mark Sutcliffe, de conseillers municipaux, de représentants de la tribu des Séminoles, de dirigeants de Hard Rock International et de représentants de la Société des loteries et des jeux de l’Ontario (SLJO).

Hard Rock avait été retenue par la SLJO comme nouveau partenaire du site en mai 2017. Le projet de réaménagement du casino situé sur le chemin Albion, dans le sud de la ville, avait été approuvé par le conseil municipal au mois de mai 2018.

À l’époque, le projet d’hôtel, d’expansion de la salle de jeux et de construction d’une salle de spectacle était évalué à 318 millions de dollars. Toutefois, pour diverses raisons, notamment la pandémie, le début des travaux qui devait être en avril 2020 a été repoussé.

Le coût des travaux est maintenant évalué à 350 millions pour l’expansion de la salle de jeux, pour la construction de l’hôtel de 150 chambres sur six étages et pour la construction d’une salle de spectacles pouvant accueillir jusqu’à 2200 personnes.

«Nous sommes vraiment excités d’apporter la marque Hard Rock à Ottawa et de construire un complexe immobilier dont toute la communauté sera fière», a mentionné au Droit lundi Jon Lucas, président-directeur général de Hard Rock International.

Hard Rock International, une entreprise basée en Floride, est présente dans plus de 70 pays et possède 290 sites, dont des hôtels, des casinos, des boutiques, des salles de spectacles et des cafés.

«Nous sommes une entreprise hôtelière, pas seulement une entreprise de jeux. Nous bâtissons des établissements de première classe. Les spectacles sont importants pour nous. De grands noms et des groupes locaux montent sur scène au Hard Rock Café. Nous avons aussi d’excellents restaurants», a ajouté M. Lucas.

Fin des travaux en 2025





Les travaux devraient être terminés en avril 2025. Le complexe comprendra aussi plusieurs restaurants.«C’est presque surréaliste parce que ça fait longtemps que nous sommes sur le projet. Lorsque les roulottes de construction sont arrivées et que les clôtures autour du site ont été érigées, nos clients et nos employés ont commencé à comprendre que ça allait vraiment se matérialiser. C’est excitant. Il y a beaucoup d’émotions entourant ce qui se passe aujourd’hui et ce qui se passera mardi», a partagé lundi au Droit Helen MacMillan, directrice générale du casino Rideau-Carleton.

Le site a ouvert ses portes en septembre 1962 en tant que piste de courses attelées. La salle de jeux s’est ajoutée en février 2000. La Ville d’Ottawa a depuis 2000 reçu des redevances de 93 millions de dollars. Le casino comprend aujourd’hui 1200 machines à sous et des tables de jeu. Le nouveau casino offrira aux parieurs plus de 1500 machines et une quarantaine de tables de jeu.

Une fois les travaux d’expansion terminés, Hard Rock Ottawa devrait employer quelque 700 personnes.

La région de la capitale fédérale compte un autre casino, soit celui du Lac-Leamy à Gatineau. Il est géré par la Société des casinos du Québec.
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Way back when, Mayor Watson considered a proposal to build a downtown casino. However the decision was made that there would be too many vagrants and we didn't want gambling addicted people to access the casino from downtown. You must be rich enough to own a car before you can donate your money to a casino. So then the plan was hatched to allow for Rideau-Carleton to expand, and voila you have the long long long long term Hard-Rock plan, hatched like 8 years ago.
Yeah god forbid we have vagrants in our downtown.
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That looks like a typical airport Holiday Inn from the early 2000s. How very...Ottawa.
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That looks like a typical airport Holiday Inn from the early 2000s. How very...Ottawa.
Another monument to Watson's legacy of "I guess that's better than before..."

I have a lot of trouble understanding how this will compete with Lac Leamy. Unless they have good and frequent acts in the theatre space, or a lot of people prefer car oriented hellscapes surround by nothingness, or have a deep hate for Quebec and the concept of giving them money through gambling and taxes, I don't see how this place will do very well.
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If they build a Vegas-style monorail connecting the casino to Bowesville station, I'll give it a try. Otherwise, I'll stick to Lac Leamy.
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If they build a Vegas-style monorail connecting the casino to Bowesville station, I'll give it a try. Otherwise, I'll stick to Lac Leamy.
You make a good point. The ideal casino should take money from tourists not locals to have any economic value. With that location the Hull Casino will be closer to almost every hotel room in the city. But as was previously said they have a car so it's fine to take their money. Too bad a Casino integrated with an NHL arena would actually be a destination.
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You make a good point. The ideal casino should take money from tourists not locals to have any economic value. With that location the Hull Casino will be closer to almost every hotel room in the city. But as was previously said they have a car so it's fine to take their money. Too bad a Casino integrated with an NHL arena would actually be a destination.
Like what was proposed by Melnyk when we were supposed to get a proper competition, or what was built in Edmonton.
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Having a Hard Rock Casino integrated with a new Lebreton Sens arena, as part of a larger, new Lebreton Flats entertainment district, would've been a massive jackpot (pun intended).
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Having a Hard Rock Casino integrated with a new Lebreton Sens arena, as part of a larger, new Lebreton Flats entertainment district, would've been a massive jackpot (pun intended).
It definitely would've been huge, the amount of life in the area would be neverending.
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It definitely would've been huge, the amount of life in the area would be neverending.
It would be very disruptive for our new Lebreton residential neighbourhood.
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It would be very disruptive for our new Lebreton residential neighbourhood.
The key is to build it before enough Karens move in to form a CA
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Having a Hard Rock Casino integrated with a new Lebreton Sens arena, as part of a larger, new Lebreton Flats entertainment district, would've been a massive jackpot (pun intended).
I'd rather they do this at lansdowne. Brookstreet hotel, spa, casino, rooftop restaurant, making money to pay for the development, etc. Definitely won't fly with the Glebites. I thought having a conplete destination may mean a better chance of greater funds going back to the city coffers.
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After many delays, construction kicks off at Hard Rock Hotel and Casino

Mia Jensen, OBJ
June 6, 2023 3:38 PM ET




Almost six years after plans were unveiled, construction has started on the future Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in south Ottawa.

On Tuesday, Hard Rock International executives, elected officials and local business leaders officially marked the groundbreaking of the new tourism and entertainment facility at the Rideau Carleton Casino.

Originally announced in 2017, the $350-million project will take over and expand the existing Rideau Carleton Casino.

Jon Lucas, CEO of Hard Rock International, said the project will take the reputation and success of the original casino and bring it to a whole new level.

“We’re not just about gaming, we’re about entertainment,” said Lucas. “We’re about hospitality. I think we’re going to bring to the market great nightlife, great entertainment and great restaurants. There’s also that opportunity in our bar and cafe to show off local bands, and then, in our larger venue, to bring talent into the market. It just enhances what we’re currently doing on a grander scale, which would be great for the community.”

“It’s been a long, tedious process,” he added. “Obviously, interrupted by COVID and additional challenges of capital markets, costs of construction and supply chain challenges. The good news is we got past all those hurdles. We’re really excited to finally bring our brand to Ottawa.”

The challenges experienced in the interim meant the original plan announced in 2018 has been tweaked. The total cost of the project has increased and some features have been scaled back.

The site will feature a six storey, 150-room Hard Rock Hotel with 22 suites and retail shops, as well as seven restaurants and three bar and lounge areas, including the company’s Hard Rock Cafe, a Council Oak Steakhouse, and a YouYu Noodle Bar.

The new 24-7 gaming floor will have 1,500 slots, 40 live action table games, a baccarat room, and a sportsbook for variety gaming captions. It will also include a high-limit area with a lounge for VIP guests.

The new 1,800-seat Hard Rock Live theatre will host concerts, comedy shows and dance performances by locally and internationally known artists to the city.

The expansion is projected to be complete by July 2025, according to Lucas. It is expected to create nearly 1,900 construction and ongoing employment opportunities. Once operational, the facility will employ more than 700 workers.

In a press release, Ottawa Mayor Mark Sutcliffe said the new site could be a major driving force for the local economy.

“The new Hard Rock Hotel and Casino represents a significant investment in the south end of our city,” he said. “It will create new jobs and build on the existing attraction at Rideau Carleton Casino. I know many residents of the city are looking forward to enjoying this space and it will also be another great tourist attraction in Ottawa.”

Helen MacMillan, general manager of Rideau Carleton Casino, will continue in that role. She said she’s thrilled to celebrate the beginning of construction after years of delay.

“It’s been a longer journey than we anticipated,” she said. “The property was closed during the pandemic, when we actually had a groundbreaking date in April 2020. The project restarted in August of 2021, but the world changes increased significantly and supply chains were very, very challenging.”

As a recognizable brand, MacMillan anticipates that Hard Rock will not only cater to the existing local gaming market, but also draw in tourists from across the country.

“It’s going to be extremely valuable,” she said. “We describe ourselves as a world-class operation, a world-class brand. Anyone who walks through the doors will have that local feel. The experience is the focus for us.”

As the city’s only casino, the Rideau Carleton Casino was a small but significant contributor to local nightlife and entertainment. MacMillan said the new facility will be able to kick those contributions up a notch, just as Ottawa leaders focus on revitalizing the city’s nightlife scene.

“We’ll be providing that entertainment experience,” she said. “We’re welcoming people to the property and providing them with an experience that is different than if they go to a nightclub or go to have dinner downtown. A lot of guests say, ‘You know, we didn’t know about this and we now have options that we didn’t have before.’”

She added, “People talk about Ottawa having nothing to do, which I don’t agree with, but we certainly can help change that perspective.”

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Old Posted Jun 7, 2023, 2:30 PM
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Wow, they can finally change the radio ads for this now...it's been "Future Hard Rock" for the seemingly the last 10 years...
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Having a Hard Rock Casino integrated with a new Lebreton Sens arena, as part of a larger, new Lebreton Flats entertainment district, would've been a massive jackpot (pun intended).
totally agree. The area around Hard Rock is so rural. I just can't see people in dress pants and/or high heels walking down high road from bowesville station to this place. Its so reminiscent of the Corel Centre decision. But I guess Hard Rock will run shuttles.

The area will surely develop, earl armstrong will get widened and extended etc.. and eventually it will fit in but it just would have been so much better at lebreton or bayview yards. Imagine going to a game and hitting the casino after. That would just make too much sense.
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