Canadian Airport Thread - Page 805

hehehe · #**16081** Posted **Jul 18, 2023, 2:24 AM**

Seems ridiculous to wait 2.5 hours in line for US customs.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-airport-wait-times-mpc-application-1.6905827

Alexcaban · #**16082** Posted **Jul 18, 2023, 2:56 PM**

AC seems to be increasing YUL-DEL to 5x weekly from December to March up from 3x weekly.

YUL-LIS extended past January, 3x weekly increasing to 4x weekly in April.

nname · #**16083** Posted **Jul 18, 2023, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Alexcaban

AC seems to be increasing YUL-DEL to 5x weekly from December to March up from 3x weekly.

YUL-LIS extended past January, 3x weekly increasing to 4x weekly in April.

Yes, AC moved 1x weekly from YUL-GRU to YUL-DEL in a recent update. Now they are both 5x weekly for the winter.

thenoflyzone · #**16084** Posted **Jul 19, 2023, 2:38 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe

Seems ridiculous to wait 2.5 hours in line for US customs.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-airport-wait-times-mpc-application-1.6905827

If you don’t have nexus, or don’t use the new MPC app, that’s what happens at YUL.

USCPB at YUL was understaffed last time I passed through in January (Probably still is). Had I not used MPC, I would have waited an extra 45 min to an hour, easy.

I’m passing through again in 2 weeks. Let’s see how it goes.

hollywoodcory · #**16085** Posted **Jul 19, 2023, 9:49 AM**

YYC June 2023 Stats

Domestic: 1,210,618 +13.2% (YTD: 5,790,416 +31.38%) [2019 levels: 1,115,268]
Transborder: 340,159 +45.9% (YTD: 1,608,249 +55.78%) [2019 levels: 306,554)
International: 188,234 +70.7% (YTD: 1,092,681 +77.80%) [2019 levels: 154,828]

June 2023 Total: 1,739,011 +23.1% [2019 total: 1,576,650]
2023 YTD: 8,491,346 +40.25%

If my calculation is correct, this is a 10.2% increase over June 2019.

Dominion301 · #**16086** Posted **Jul 19, 2023, 11:49 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

YYC June 2023 Stats

Domestic: 1,210,618 +13.2% (YTD: 5,790,416 +31.38%) [2019 levels: 1,115,268]
Transborder: 340,159 +45.9% (YTD: 1,608,249 +55.78%) [2019 levels: 306,554)
International: 188,234 +70.7% (YTD: 1,092,681 +77.80%) [2019 levels: 154,828]

June 2023 Total: 1,739,011 +23.1% [2019 total: 1,576,650]
2023 YTD: 8,491,346 +40.25%

If my calculation is correct, this is a 10.2% increase over June 2019.

Pretty remarkable numbers considering all the AC cutbacks. More than made up for by Lynx,Flair, Porter and especially WestJet.

connect2source · #**16087** Posted **Jul 19, 2023, 12:31 PM**

Looks like YVR's May 2023 domestic traffic hit an all-time record of 1,134,114 beating 2019's numbers of 1,071,267!

Dominion301 · #**16088** Posted **Jul 19, 2023, 4:26 PM**

YOW's June pax stats are out. While it's early, AF's first four YOW flights had around a 95% LF

Sector / Jun-22 / Jun-23 / % Change
Dom: 283,120 / 317,392 / +12.1%
TB: 14,639 / 38,800 / +165.0%
Int'l: 0 / 1,066 / #DIV/0! - 4 AF CDG + 2 F8 CUN - safe to assume the last southbound CUN would have been almost empty
TTL: 297,759 / 357,258 / +20.0%

Sector / YTD 2022 / YTD 2023 / % Change
Dom: 1,079,918 / 1,479,342 / +37.0%
TB: 63,204 / 279,978 / +343.0%
Int'l: 42,722 / 193,995 / +354.1%
TTL: 1,185,844 / 1,953,315 / +64.7%

Month-Over-Month Change
Sector / May-23 / Jun-23 / % Change
Dom: 287,675 / 317,392 / +10.3%
TB: 41,476 / 38,800 / -6.5%
Int'l: 2,200 / 1,066 / -51.5%
TTL: 331,351 / 357,258 / +7.8%
Avg/Day: 10,689 / 11,909 / +11.4%
% of month's avg daily pax vs 2019 (13,990 avg pax/day) = 85.1%
YTD TTL vs YTD 2019 = 76.1%

Based on the YTD daily pax average, YOW's now on pace for 3.89 million pax in 2023. At the midpoint, that's almost +300K higher vs January 2023. 4 million is looking realistic.

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2021
Dom: 3,108,423 / +171.7%
TB: 407,109 / +3,521.3%
Int'l: 244,273 / +1,466.2%
TTL: 3,759,805 / +221.1%

YOW's now on pace for 3.9 million pax in 2023 vs 3.6 million in Jan. 23. Surpassing 4 million is realistic.

Denscity · #**16089** Posted **Jul 20, 2023, 2:15 AM**

Nice to see the water bombers return to YCG for some extra action.

casper · #**16090** Posted **Jul 21, 2023, 5:54 PM**

Flair has another customer service issue on a flight from YYZ-YXE.

Insane, that is not a 10 hour flight. Passengers were left to share what food or water they may have had in their hand luggage. Flair did not provision the flight while it was sitting in Winnipeg and then decided to fly everyone back to Toronto.

There is a quote in there they gave the media where they said their customer service team is going to reach out to customers to provide "appropriate compensation". CBC is reporting that turned out to be an e-mail saying your are not getting any componsation.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/flair-delay-upset-passengers-saskatoon-toronto-1.6913289

Saskatoon needs Porter on that route to provide some competition to AC.

Denscity · #**16091** Posted **Jul 21, 2023, 9:41 PM**

YXC Cranbrook BC airport is under an evacuation alert for a nearby forest fire.

Dominion301 · #**16092** Posted **Jul 22, 2023, 1:18 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denscity

YXC Cranbrook BC airport is under an evacuation alert for a nearby forest fire.

As is YGL / La Grande in Quebec, which is actually closed until further notice. 3H 732 arrivals to YUL are bypassing YGL and since YPX that is unaffected has no security screening means the 732 is temporarily arriving at 3H’s YUL hangar.

hollywoodcory · #**16093** Posted **Jul 22, 2023, 5:09 PM**

WS is adding at least one new route as part of its winter schedule.

YYC-TPA

Also appears they are dropping YYZ-LGA?

The 787 will also fly to Mexico with YYZ-CUN and YVR-CUN/PVR
Will also operate YYC-LHR/CDG/CUN/PVR/OGG/HNL.

Edit: YEG-MZT is back too. I think this was at Swoop last winter?

nname · #**16094** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 8:07 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS is adding at least one new route as part of its winter schedule.

YYC-TPA

At the same time, YYZ-TPA is reduced from daily to 4x weekly.

hehehe · #**16095** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 8:28 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname

At the same time, YYZ-TPA is reduced from daily to 4x weekly.

YYZ-BNA seems to be cut and some domestic routes across Canada and even in the west have been reduced as well. A bit odd considering their spiel was domestic increases out west and southern flights in the east?

JakeLRS · #**16096** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 10:10 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe

YYZ-BNA seems to be cut and some domestic routes across Canada and even in the west have been reduced as well. A bit odd considering their spiel was domestic increases out west and southern flights in the east?

YHM-YYC - 4x weekly
YXU-YYC - 4x weekly
YKF-YYC - 3x weekly (this was serviced much more last winter)

Hey look, Westjet picked up a singular Swoop route!
YEG-YXX - 2x weekly

hehehe · #**16097** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 11:02 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeLRS

YHM-YYC - 4x weekly
YXU-YYC - 4x weekly
YKF-YYC - 3x weekly (this was serviced much more last winter)

Hey look, Westjet picked up a singular Swoop route!
YEG-YXX - 2x weekly

I mean I'm sure they're doing what makes financial/operational sense for them but at the same time none of this really matches the comments they're making and new strategy? Even at their exclusive YYC hub a lot of domestic and some other routes seem to still be below 2019 levels? This summer had a lot of growth though.

JakeLRS · #**16098** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 11:11 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe

I mean I'm sure they're doing what makes financial/operational sense for them but at the same time none of this really matches the comments they're making and new strategy? Even at their exclusive YYC hub a lot of domestic and some other routes seem to still be below 2019 levels? This summer had a lot of growth though.

They are also picking up 16 Swoop tails and in this update there are only a few minor frequency increases with a whole lotta frequency decreases. Maybe there is another announcement coming based on previous comments/teases?

Quite a few layoffs abloom for CYHM airport staff if this is all Westjet will do...

hehehe · #**16099** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 1:41 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeLRS

They are also picking up 16 Swoop tails and in this update there are only a few minor frequency increases with a whole lotta frequency decreases. Maybe there is another announcement coming based on previous comments/teases?

Quite a few layoffs abloom for CYHM airport staff if this is all Westjet will do...

Even YVR-YWG has been reduced to 5x weekly! And YOW-YWG, YEG-YCD was cut for the winter among other reductions

JakeLRS · #**16100** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 1:59 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe

Even YVR-YWG has been reduced to 5x weekly! And YOW-YWG, YEG-YCD was cut for the winter among other reductions

What in the hell is there new strategy? Fly exclusively to YVR/YYC/YEG?

Canada’s leisure airline my ass.

Huge domestic opportunity here for Flair and Lynx to try and grab some extra market share… especially in the east.