Winnipeg Construction X - Page 500

1ajs · #**9981** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 12:43 PM**

City lost the Parker lands court case

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-marquess-misfeasance-judgment-1.6899598

3de14eec6a · #**9982** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 1:20 PM**

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All that sprawl hurts my eyes.

They missed out on adding bike lanes to Transcona BLVD even though there is a stupid amount of space to add some. It would’ve connected to Peguis and Transcona Trail so well.

Also, do we just not plant trees anymore in these new subdivisions?

I could be mistaken as I often just hop onto the road when a path disappears. But I thought that the bike path does go all the way to Peguis already.

Also, isn't there a plan to connect it to Callsbeck Ave by going under Lag somehow?

cheswick · #**9983** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 2:22 PM**

People talked about a while about about the fire rubble on main st. A story on why it's taken so long to get it removed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/surplus-direct-demolition-dispute-1.6899222

bomberjet · #**9984** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 2:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by zalf

This should work
https://panoraven.com/en/embed/fwooavQcZm

Neat. I wonder when, if ever, they'll finish the SB lanes on Peguis at the intersection.

There is a decent amount of density along Peguis in that area. Still mostly SFH's beyond that.

optimusREIM · #**9985** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 2:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by cheswick

People talked about a while about about the fire rubble on main st. A story on why it's taken so long to get it removed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/surplus-direct-demolition-dispute-1.6899222

I wonder why the province is so opaque on this? It just seems any time you work with government or a quasi-governmental entity, it's like pulling teeth. Imagine if things were semi-efficient how much more productive everyone could be....

pspeid · #**9986** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 2:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1ajs

City lost the Parker lands court case

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-marquess-misfeasance-judgment-1.6899598

I wonder if this one may spark some change at city hall? It's not just a couple of relatively unknown civil servants, it's been tied directly to Orlikow. Has this personal interference in construction projects been standard practice at the city? Interesting to watch to see if the issue gets traction.

TimeFadesAway · #**9987** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

You don't have to write anything fancy. Just say that you support the project and would like the Appeals Committee to approve it. This project would make a great addition to the main commercial stretch of Provencher Blvd!

I submitted my report. Why would a business owner not want more potential customers right next door? Does she have other CRUs that she wants to rent out and is worried about competition?

WinCitySparky · #**9988** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 3:39 PM**

Inflated sense of self-importance. Long tenured business owners are prone to this it seems.

ColdRain&Snow · #**9989** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 3:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by TimeFadesAway

I submitted my report. Why would a business owner not want more potential customers right next door? Does she have other CRUs that she wants to rent out and is worried about competition?

Yeah it seems silly to me. If you're a business owner, why would you not want ~70 people moving in right next door to your business?

borkborkbork · #**9990** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 6:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

So oppose a development that likely means more business for your shop? What a dunce.

This being Winnipeg, I would imagine all the stuff about scale and snow load and everything is just a sideshow to the real concern, i.e., street parking.

I'd imagine that 99% of her clientele drive there, *even those who live nearby*. St. B is one of those places that could be pedestrian but has been built to make driving feel like the natural move.

If your clientele is River Heights people who will stop going if there's not enough street parking, I could see the fear. 70 households of midmarket renters next door are not going to be your bread and butter clientele.

The problem here is that Winnipeg doesn't build neighbourhoods to have lively and walkable high streets. There are places with continuous retail along unpleasant stroads (Portage), places with cute retail but spaced so far out that it's not great to walk (Academy), etc. The only neighbourhood I can think of that has a real 'high street' of retail and restaurants is Osborne, and even there, it's only really a few blocks long.

So retailers fight against things that would reduce car dependence because one building is going to eat up all the street parking customers would use, but just one building isn't sufficient to transform shopping and make it less car dependent. It's a short term and likely pain for a long-term and uncertain gain.

I think the city should ignore her appeal but I do understand why she'd do it.

ColdRain&Snow · #**9991** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by borkborkbork

This being Winnipeg, I would imagine all the stuff about scale and snow load and everything is just a sideshow to the real concern, i.e., street parking.

I'd imagine that 99% of her clientele drive there, *even those who live nearby*. St. B is one of those places that could be pedestrian but has been built to make driving feel like the natural move.

If your clientele is River Heights people who will stop going if there's not enough street parking, I could see the fear. 70 households of midmarket renters next door are not going to be your bread and butter clientele.

The problem here is that Winnipeg doesn't build neighbourhoods to have lively and walkable high streets. There are places with continuous retail along unpleasant stroads (Portage), places with cute retail but spaced so far out that it's not great to walk (Academy), etc. The only neighbourhood I can think of that has a real 'high street' of retail and restaurants is Osborne, and even there, it's only really a few blocks long.

So retailers fight against things that would reduce car dependence because one building is going to eat up all the street parking customers would use, but just one building isn't sufficient to transform shopping and make it less car dependent. It's a short term and likely pain for a long-term and uncertain gain.

I think the city should ignore her appeal but I do understand why she'd do it.

Yeah I agree, her main concern is probably parking. That being said, the new building has 39 parking stalls for 45 apartments, which is pretty reasonable for a building that is 1.5 blocks from the Provencher Bridge. Also, there's a Peg City Car Co-Op parking stall and indoor bike parking. Whenever I drive down Provencher, it seems like there's lots of on street parking available. Plus this new building will actually be adding on-street parking spots right next to her business by getting rid of the two large curb cuts that enter into the existing gravel parking lot.

Also, I would say our nicest "high street" is Corydon Ave.

bomberjet · #**9992** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 6:56 PM**

Similar to Peg City Car thing. Winnipeg needs Bixi. Bike rentals throughout the City. It was glorious during my time in Montreal, which has sadly come to an end.

dmacc · #**9993** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 7:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Similar to Peg City Car thing. Winnipeg needs Bixi. Bike rentals throughout the City. It was glorious during my time in Montreal, which has sadly come to an end.

Wasn't there a pilot done for this ages ago? I seem to remember a bunch of the bikes were destroyed or thrown in the river. I'm sure requiring an app to rent a bike would allow for auditing and accountability.

Flatland Metropolis · #**9994** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 7:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by pspeid

I wonder if this one may spark some change at city hall? It's not just a couple of relatively unknown civil servants, it's been tied directly to Orlikow. Has this personal interference in construction projects been standard practice at the city? Interesting to watch to see if the issue gets traction.

Just a small clarification, Orlikow is not a civil servant, he is an elected official, not part of the bureaucracy. In this case Orlikow pressured civil servants who either agreed with him or knew him personally and red tape ensued.

Flatland Metropolis · #**9995** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Similar to Peg City Car thing. Winnipeg needs Bixi. Bike rentals throughout the City. It was glorious during my time in Montreal, which has sadly come to an end.

Point Douglas bike thieves rubbing their hands over that idea.

BAKGUY · #**9996** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

Yeah it seems silly to me. If you're a business owner, why would you not want ~70 people moving in right next door to your business?

Likely she feels this is free advertising. Seriously.. Sounds like a beeyatch . having any cause today will arouse excitement to persons who hate progress & capitalism are my guesses?

pspeid · #**9997** Posted **Jul 7, 2023, 9:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flatland Metropolis

Just a small clarification, Orlikow is not a civil servant, he is an elected official, not part of the bureaucracy. In this case Orlikow pressured civil servants who either agreed with him or knew him personally and red tape ensued.

Yes. Don't know how I gave a different impression, but me sometimes not write thoughts goodly.

trueviking · #**9998** Posted **Jul 8, 2023, 3:47 PM**

Well said @bork. I agree completely.

It annoys me that one person can appeal and hold up projects for months.

bomberjet · #**9999** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 2:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by dmacc

Wasn't there a pilot done for this ages ago? I seem to remember a bunch of the bikes were destroyed or thrown in the river. I'm sure requiring an app to rent a bike would allow for auditing and accountability.

I don't remember, but sounds like Winnipeg.

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Originally Posted by Flatland Metropolis

Point Douglas bike thieves rubbing their hands over that idea.

I'm sure there would be growing pains. The Montreal program is 15 years old now. But it would be obvious is you are riding a stolen Bixi. There are very unique looking. That's a manual bike. They also have electric ones that look similar.

The whole system is wireless and based on an app. But you can also rent at certain location just with your credit card. If you are so inclined to pry the bikes out of the station, then I guess go for it.

Thery have staff that are checking each station at least twice a day. The moves bikes around and such. Seems like it would be great to have to encourage more people to use the bike infrastructure we do have. And maybe encourage more development by the City.

borkborkbork · #**10000** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 2:45 PM**

It's not like Montreal is a city without bike thefts.