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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 3:28 PM
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Given the continued population growth of the city and the resulting demand for new housing, what are the odds that we see some new highrises out of the situation?

The post-covid downtown is not really the most desirable or marketable place, so it's quite understandable that we may not see any more 300 Main-type towers for quite some time until the situation stabilizes. But what about in other areas of the city? Even parts of town that are downtown-adjacent but not exactly downtown. How likely are we to see some towers go up with some skyline impact? Let's say, 20 storeys or higher. There is a lot of development around town but most of it is lower-slung suburban construction. Osborne Village would seem like a natural location for new towers but they just don't get built there anymore for whatever reason.
I think we'll continue to see a slow trickle of highrise buildings being built in/around downtown, but no big surge anytime soon. Right now, we have 109 Mayfair Ave (15 stories), 308 Colony Street (21 stories), 634 Portage Ave (20 stories), and 300 Main Street (42 stories). To be honest, 4 highrises at once is pretty good for Winnipeg.

As other people have mentioned, downtown is still not the most desirable place to live, however it is the place that is easiest to build highrises due to the large lot sizes and different set of zoning laws. We are unlikely to see any new highrises in Osborne Village in the near future due to the fact that Osborne Village tends to have smaller lots sizes, a different set of zoning regulations that do not favour highrise developments (the Osborne Village Local Area Plan from 2006), and a lack of large surface parking lots. If we do see new highrises in that area, they will probably be between Pembina and the rail tracks, close to Osborne Station. There's lots of large lots there that are being taken up by low value commercial businesses, especially the car dealerships. However, the zoning needs to change first to allow highrise development there. Hopefully City Council gets on that soon.

I think over the next 10 years, we'll see most of the new infill development taking place along arterial roads such as Pembina Hwy, St. Mary's Road, Main Street, Henderson Hwy, McPhillips St, etc. We are already seeing this to some extent with the new buildings along Pembina, St. Mary's, and St. Anne's. There are lots of single family houses and large surface parking lots along these roads. These roads already have decent bus service (by Winnipeg standards) and new housing will likely face less opposition from neighbours.

Also worth noting is that Hazel Borys will be taking over as the head of the Planning, Property, and Development department soon. She's huge on form-based codes, actually she wrote a lot of the literature on them. I could see her pushing city council to upzone properties along arterial roads and possibly even creating some sort of Secondary Plan for properties abutting arterial roads.

Due to all these reasons, I think there will be continue to be a slow trickle of highrise development in Winnipeg over the next 10 years, with most of the new infill construction being 3-7 story buildings along arterial roads.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 4:07 PM
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Has 126-140 Sherbrook been shared? See the link below for renderings. 108 units and 5 commercial spaces. Not the best ascetics but great urban design.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5...140+Sherbrook+Street+R2+Presentation.pdf
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 4:14 PM
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Has 126-140 Sherbrook been shared? See the link below for renderings. 108 units and 5 commercial spaces. Not the best ascetics but great urban design.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5...140+Sherbrook+Street+R2+Presentation.pdf
Oh that's great. What a super addition to that strip. I agree that it won't win any architectural awards but that doesn't matter, it will bring significant improvement to the streetscape.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 4:36 PM
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Affinity Architecture are a plague. They represent the most base, cynical manner of practicing architecture. A glimpse of a future in which architecture is unable to be differentiated from real estate development and has shed its obligation to the public realm.

I'm being theatrical, but an up-and-coming neighbourhood like this strip of Sherbrooke needs higher standards for design. Fountain Springs and the new Monteyne building are both examples.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 4:41 PM
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Has 126-140 Sherbrook been shared? See the link below for renderings. 108 units and 5 commercial spaces. Not the best ascetics but great urban design.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5...140+Sherbrook+Street+R2+Presentation.pdf
Thought that was 197 Osborne for a sec lol
     
     
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I like the density, but it looks drab.

Very similar to the first 2 floors of 710 Westminster...which is actually worse than drab.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 4:43 PM
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Affinity Architecture are a plague. They represent the most base, cynical manner of practicing architecture. A glimpse of a future in which architecture is unable to be differentiated from real estate development and has shed its obligation to the public realm.

I'm being theatrical, but an up-and-coming neighbourhood like this strip of Sherbrooke needs higher standards for design. Fountain Springs and the new Monteyne building are both examples.
Haha. It is basically a designed as a financial spreadsheet in building form, but honestly, the building's visual impact will be far surpassed by the activity that its residential units and CRUs generate.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 4:50 PM
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Haha. It is basically a designed as a financial spreadsheet in building form, but honestly, the building's visual impact will be far surpassed by the activity that its residential units and CRUs generate.
The only sentence on their website's home page proclaims their ability to provide maximum return on investment. Most design firms at least pretend they're interested in making the city better.

Good design can happen on a low budget. This is either laziness, indifference, or incompetence.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 5:09 PM
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Aesthetics aside, I agree with Esquire. This is good for the area. Perhaps the next build will be a stunner. Nothing wrong with variety and a good mix of design and architecture, or lack thereof.
     
     
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Aesthetics aside, I agree with Esquire. This is good for the area. Perhaps the next build will be a stunner. Nothing wrong with variety and a good mix of design and architecture, or lack thereof.
Winnipeg can't afford to wait and hope for the next one to be a stunner.
     
     
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Is that a rooftop pool on the sherbrook inn??
     
     
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thought that was 197 osborne for a sec lol
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 10:08 PM
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Haha. It is basically a designed as a financial spreadsheet in building form.
Perfect description.
     
     
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Good design can happen on a low budget. This is either laziness, indifference, or incompetence.
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Oh that's great. What a super addition to that strip. I agree that it won't win any architectural awards but that doesn't matter, it will bring significant improvement to the streetscape.
I agree that anything from the 7 to 9 floor proposal will benefit the area greatly especially having 5 retail CRU's. We have so few walkable high streets in the city.This street has been emerging for a couple of decades now.
     
     
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Winnipeg can't afford to wait and hope for the next one to be a stunner.

What are the consequences if the next one isn't? Let's get real, every new build doesn't have to be a masterpiece of architectural design ( a stunner). For the location and the streetscape, it will have a positive effect.

The city has had its' share of very nice new builds in recent years. The Hydro Tower, True North Square, 390 and 300 Assiniboine, 300 Main and the Wawanesa tower soon to be completed. There was a time that those types of buildings were being wished for in discussions on this forum. We are still wishing for a beautiful 500 - 600 footer. It will happen one day.

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I will once again draw on my recent Montreal experience. JFC that Sherbrook thing is terrible. Density great, looks like a pile of shit.

Living in the neighborhood here, it's sometimes hard to tell between the new and old buildings. They all look similar. Red brick. Good quality builds. Im sure it's not a blanket statement about Montreal as there is sure to be crappy shit built in the far reaches of the island. But living in the older neighbourhoods (St. Hemri, etc) everything fits together.

In Winnipeg there are very few projects that seem to have decent materials. And they all seem to come from a certain forum members company!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2023, 3:58 PM
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What are the consequences if the next one isn't? Let's get real, every new build doesn't have to be a masterpiece of architectural design ( a stunner). For the location and the streetscape, it will have a positive effect.

The city has had its' share of very nice new builds in recent years. The Hydro Tower, True North Square, 390 and 300 Assiniboine, 300 Main and the Wawanesa tower soon to be completed. There was a time that those types of buildings were being wished for in discussions on this forum. We are still wishing for a beautiful 500 - 600 footer. It will happen one day.
My opinion is that it will not have a "positive effect" on the streetscape of Sherbrook and that a location like this deserves better. Also, the examples of nice buildings you are citing aren't really of comparable scale and I would argue several of these are actually crap design as well (not as bad as the Sherbrook proposal though)
     
     
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