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Old Posted Jun 29, 2023, 2:38 PM
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Mid 2024, should be a good clip through design at this point. I think completion was for 2028 (if I'm being honest, I think they could complete the project sooner than that).
That's for Terminal C? Then would they tear down and build the new A or B first? Logistically, I would think B because it's in the middle, but A is older.
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That's for Terminal C? Then would they tear down and build the new A or B first? Logistically, I would think B because it's in the middle, but A is older.
Yea, or as they've termed it "The New Terminal". I actually think B will stick around for a while. A is going to be priority for replacement because of its age, and I believe they will do that in phases as they will want to keep part of it so they don't lose capacity. In the plans, for the new terminal they call for a post security connector from A to B so that its all one unified terminal complex that people can freely move between A, B and C after security. I think they'll demo the north part of A first, build that out with 6 - 8 new gates, then demo the south part and (at least how it looks on the plans) build 2 or 3 new gates. My guess is they will have some sort of temp solution for passenger loading on the new ground load gates that will begin construction late this year/early next year. B I think will be last to go as its still very functional, albeit cramped, but not nearly as cramped as A.
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Yea, or as they've termed it "The New Terminal". I actually think B will stick around for a while. A is going to be priority for replacement because of its age, and I believe they will do that in phases as they will want to keep part of it so they don't lose capacity. In the plans, for the new terminal they call for a post security connector from A to B so that its all one unified terminal complex that people can freely move between A, B and C after security. I think they'll demo the north part of A first, build that out with 6 - 8 new gates, then demo the south part and (at least how it looks on the plans) build 2 or 3 new gates. My guess is they will have some sort of temp solution for passenger loading on the new ground load gates that will begin construction late this year/early next year. B I think will be last to go as its still very functional, albeit cramped, but not nearly as cramped as A.
Are they going to demo the security and front check-in section of A? Or do they have an elaborate scheme to do it in sections so they can keep it open?
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2023, 2:34 PM
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Are they going to demo the security and front check-in section of A? Or do they have an elaborate scheme to do it in sections so they can keep it open?
I'm just repeating what I've read in the news and my experience with being a PM on other airports projects.
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I'm just repeating what I've read in the news and my experience with being a PM on other airports projects.
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2023, 3:58 AM
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Adding more international flights at San Antonio airport would boost local economy

From: SA Report

Those of us who have visited the San Antonio International Airport have noticed that it is pulling from all levers to handle large crowds of travelers. Airport staff is working around the clock to maintain the level of high-quality service for the millions of leisure and business travelers that depend on our airport. But have you ever considered how important the airport is to our city’s ability to attract foreign direct investment and economic opportunities from abroad?  It’s a bigger deal than most people realize.

According to the City of San Antonio Aviation Department, international demand to and from our airport has grown at an astonishing rate over the past several years. While the COVID pandemic slowed growth, demand from most regions has recovered, and in several cases, surpassed 2019 levels. This is exciting because international travelers usually stay longer and spend more money in the region than domestic travelers, adding a much-needed boost to our local economy.

Our city has been closely connected to Mexico for many years, but demand has grown significantly due to our ever-expanding population, post-pandemic travel patterns and the new Mexican airlines. Increased activity between our metro area and Mexico is creating many more opportunities to connect our region and other cities across Mexico.

Over the past two years, our airport has added nonstop service to five Mexican destinations across five airlines. Expansion to more cities in Mexico is important, but so is expansion to Panama, Colombia and other Latin American countries. The city’s aviation department estimates that just one new flight to Central or South America, even less than daily, could result in an economic impact of over $36 million per year. The economic development opportunities created by international flights are too important to ignore, and it’s exciting to know that San Antonio is positioned to benefit from them.

In large part, this is because our local communities made up of people from those countries are growing at a very fast clip. Also, we’re creating relationships with major cities and their markets, requiring airport capacity that can handle the passenger and cargo that are already arriving from these countries. I’m confident that, in the next five years, San Antonio will have established strong Sister Cities relationships with major cities in Central and South America.

It is also important to me that we establish nonstop service between San Antonio and Europe. The city’s aviation department estimates that a single new flight to Europe could create over $52 million in economic impact to our community on an annual basis. London is the top market for European travel to San Antonio. Continuing to grow lasting relationships in the United Kingdom, Spain and Germany is key to attracting flights to our airport. 

It’s not just tourism that informs our airport expansion efforts. San Antonio’s strong cultural relationships with Spain and Germany span hundreds of years. Those historical and cultural ties have resulted in significant business opportunities and opportunities for our local universities and our local economy. There is a straight line that connects those long-term relationships with current and future jobs and capital investment for San Antonio. San Antonio’s economic resiliency depends on an airport that can support tourists, business travelers and cargo planes.

San Antonio’s limited airport has resulted in our region losing out to other cities when large employers consider relocating or building new corporate headquarters. I know this because, all too often, I’ve been in the room when the CEOs and their site selection consultants tell us that San Antonio checks all the boxes of an ideal host city, but our airport makes it impossible for them to choose us. Simply put, we have gifted multi-billion-dollar opportunities to other cities by not offering a competitive airport to the world’s largest employers.


Recognizing this, and with a sense of urgency, I am working with our airport team, Mayor Ron Nirenberg and our City Manager to add more capacity to our airport so that we can meet our growing city’s needs and maximize our potential. During the development of the San Antonio Airport System Strategic Development Plan, the airport team and the City of San Antonio emphasized engagement throughout the community resulting in a plan that incorporated input from more than 100,000 direct engagements with residents and stakeholders. We’re always eager to hear from residents on how our airport can best serve locals and visitors and we will continue to inform the public of our progress through regular public presentations to civic and residential organizations, which offer opportunities for feedback. After all, this airport belongs to all of us.
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Not sure if it's possible with the runway as is, but I get the feeling that a London or Frankfurt flight is looming in the not too distant future.

The airport seems to be gaining a lot of momentum lately.
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The city’s aviation department estimates that just one new flight to Central or South America, even less than daily, could result in an economic impact of over $36 million per year.


It is also important to me that we establish nonstop service between San Antonio and Europe. The city’s aviation department estimates that a single new flight to Europe could create over $52 million in economic impact to our community on an annual basis.

I hope these numbers are wrong...because they are not really impressive. At least impressive enough to warrant the establishment of a route.
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I hope these numbers are wrong...because they are not really impressive. At least impressive enough to warrant the establishment of a route.
What should the revenue on a single flight per year?
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I hope these numbers are wrong...because they are not really impressive. At least impressive enough to warrant the establishment of a route.
"Economic impact" being tax revenue
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2023, 8:05 PM
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My point is that those impact estimates seem low. Too low to warrant a route.

Austin's initial BA flight initially brought in about $75 million in "economic impact" in 2014-2015. That's almost $100 million in 2023 dollars. SAT's estimated econ impact is just over half that - in today's dollars.

It's not a knock. I just don't think SA is quite ready for intercontinental routes - yet.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2023, 2:34 AM
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Sure,

I know chancla it surely is a gorgeous concept for the Airport ,but when is the completion date for all of these upgrades and additions?
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Is that a legit render? That's gorgeous!
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2023, 7:39 PM
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San Antonio International Airport broke its Fourth of July travel record this weekend with a 7 percent increase in passengers compared to 2019.

More than 162,000 people flew in and out of San Antonio from Friday through Tuesday compared to the almost 152,000 people who traveled during the holiday weekend in 2019.

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article...ord-breaking-fourth-of-july-18187351.php
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2023, 2:19 PM
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San Antonio International Airport broke its Fourth of July travel record this weekend with a 7 percent increase in passengers compared to 2019.

More than 162,000 people flew in and out of San Antonio from Friday through Tuesday compared to the almost 152,000 people who traveled during the holiday weekend in 2019.

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article...ord-breaking-fourth-of-july-18187351.php
If not June, which could legitimately happen, July will be the first month SAT surpasses a million passengers for the first time in a monthly report based on the 7% increase from July 2019. Good stuff, time for some more direct destinations!
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Who could argue with that, this rendition looks beautiful.
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San Antonio airport loses shot for direct flights to D.C., but hope is not lost - San Antonio Report

https://sanantonioreport.org/san-antonio-airport-direct-flights-washington-dc/
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I kinda get what they mean with the article but it's also misleading with service to Dulles twice a day. I know it's much farther out versus Reagan, but it's still a primary DC airport.
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FAA grants for the San Antonio airport are adding up. Here’s how much so far.

Great article talking about the gobs of Federal Dollars flowing into the airport right now. But the big point at the end of the article states that June was the second busiest month ever at SAT.... just behind July 2019. Numbers aren't out yet, but that would put June at around 950k.
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SAT June 2023 Stats

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In June 2023, the airport’s passenger numbers reached 949,830. Not only was this the
busiest June in the airport’s history, but it was also the second busiest month on record only
behind July of 2019. June 2023 passenger levels increased 10% compared to the same month
in 2022.
The airport continues to compare its numbers to those in 2019 to better understand its
recovery. 2019 was a record year for the airport with more than 10 million passengers flying
through the terminals. Passenger levels seen during June 2023 were 1% higher than the
same month in 2019.
The airport has essentially caught up with 2019 in terms of year to date passengers with over 5 million pax through June 2023.
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What’s the plan for the San Antonio airport? KSAT Explains

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‘The 7th largest city in the country is starting to act its size.’ And size has everything to do with it.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2023/08/...hAiDV2JzIoZ4Zqjm7Jupx7u85KKkFxz1VAmItEpE
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