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Old Posted Jun 26, 2023, 6:48 PM
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The cost for underground parking would be as inflated as the rest of the project. However, I don't think additional costs are much of an issue. The people in charge just didn't want the cars underground whether it's strictly personal preference or security related.
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The artificial sand beach and shallow pool, centerpiece of the third phase of Samuel-De-Champlain's linear park, will soon open to the public.

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https://www.quebecurbain.qc.ca/2023/06/23/la-nouvelle-station-de-la-plage-magnifique/


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I haven't seen it in person, but that's kind of the sense I get from the photos. Overly prescriptive & landscaped; not enough green space & shade and flexibility to just be a pleasant, multi-use community park. It's the same problem that a lot modern parks have.

The pond looks nice though.

I was actually expecting this from the pictures, but in person the vibe is a lot better. The relative lack of greenspace works due to the amount of seating available - both fixed and otherwise - which is surprising for a Toronto park. Security notwithstanding it does feel like somewhere you could just hang out for quite some time. Shade is an issue right now, but as the trees mature and the wisteria canopy comes in that should be rectified. Maintenance will obviously be necessary on this front.

There is a lack of soft greenspace in the core but I do feel this was a park done correctly that works for its area which is pretty corporate in nature.
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i checked it out this morning on my way to work - Looked great. It's location at the entry to the waterfront for most tourists will also hopefully improve people's perception of Toronto's waterfront.
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2023, 4:19 PM
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The seating is all arranged to sit in quite contemplation texting. At this point, I don't care if tourists come away unimpressed by the waterfront as the waterfront is also a large residential community. Here was an opportunity to create a hard scaped area with tables and chairs with a snack pavilion and even a fountain/ water feature . A larger consolidated green area instead of these islands that were hip when HTO Park was built. Finally, something active like a pickleball court or two.

This would be perfect filler between the commercial, religious and galleries and museums of a central riverfront in Europe. Harbourfront is high density mixed residential.

How often will this award worthy landscape architectural design have temporary tents set up all over it?

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The artificial sand beach and shallow pool, centerpiece of the third phase of Samuel-De-Champlain's linear park, will soon open to the public.
Great looking addition. Very cool how this new “beach” area sits on the St Lawrence.
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Love Park is rather basic but incredibly nice. It really is a wonderful little park, while that A-LGBT-Z+= % # {I think I've covered everyone} is very unattractive and completely unimaginative.
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Love Park is rather basic but incredibly nice. It really is a wonderful little park, while that A-LGBT-Z+= % # {I think I've covered everyone} is very unattractive and completely unimaginative.
Design of the TSLGBTQ+ monument was dumbed down and value engineered to death. It featured a huge ramp and viewing platform that have been removed.






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It appears that Avenue Park is going forward
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Great! Could you post tweet or info as I am being blocked by Twitter!? Not sure why. Is this new information?
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Great! Could you post tweet or info as I am being blocked by Twitter!? Not sure why. Is this new information?
Can't view Twitter anymore either. No account myself, just browsed a few people/organizations once in a while.
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Great! Could you post tweet or info as I am being blocked by Twitter!? Not sure why. Is this new information?
Basically some wealthy people are willing to finance the project.
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Queens Park is a neat idea. I don't know about the rest of University Avenue. The space is subdivided by east west streets. I guess it provides spaces for people to escape from the hospitals. Other than that, what does it accomplish? Removing lanes of traffic will have an effect in a city that's gaining more people by the minute.
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Queens Park is a neat idea. I don't know about the rest of University Avenue. The space is subdivided by east west streets. I guess it provides spaces for people to escape from the hospitals. Other than that, what does it accomplish? Removing lanes of traffic will have an effect in a city that's gaining more people by the minute.

Toronto Transportation Services has earmarked the reconstruction of University Ave between Dundas and Queen's Park for 2024, which would involve repaving and construction of raised cycle tracks, so I'm not sure how legit this plan is.

The city has a terrible track record of actually putting shovels in the ground after studying or even funding public realm improvements to city streets. John Street anyone?
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I’m all for added public space, but a little concerned how this would effect one of only a few roads with decent traffic flow in a downtown that’s choking traffic and getting worse.
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Queens Park is a neat idea. I don't know about the rest of University Avenue. The space is subdivided by east west streets. I guess it provides spaces for people to escape from the hospitals. Other than that, what does it accomplish? Removing lanes of traffic will have an effect in a city that's gaining more people by the minute.
And those people need park space, not pavement. Most cars are probably from outside of Old Toronto.
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When they do break ground it's usually a value engineered half assed plan (eliminating buried wires) that only ever achieves 95% completion. Not sure why that missing 5% never gets completed.

Dundas West in The Junction is one of those rare circumstances in which none of the big ticket items were dropped and, AFAIK, near 100% completed was achieved and it shows.
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2023, 3:24 PM
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And those people need park space, not pavement. Most cars are probably from outside of Old Toronto.

I'm stubborn but, I'm open to a solid argument for decreasing the number of traffic lanes in a City that will gain what 25% population in the next 10 to 15 years. It's mostly been cheerleading as a win against post war suburbia. I see the same as one less single family home in the city for the recent proposed conversions of modest, inner city, single family home to multi-family micro suites . Our transit is surface, mixed traffic. Queens Park is a large, formal park with accessibility issues that this idea resolves . I would not call the rendered greening of University Avenue park space.
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It really just comes down to space being at a greater premium as more people occupy the same urban area so space needs to be used more efficiently. General traffic road lanes are among the least efficient uses of urban space (when there's no congestion pricing) since they get clogged by so many private vehicles that require much more room than their occupants. Expanding public space, green or otherwise, tends to be one of the more beneficial things a city can do to improve the quality of life for residents as crowding increases. Whether or not public space is officially called a "park" doesn't really factor into it.

Also, reducing the area dedicated to vehicular traffic and impermeable surfaces can be an improvement in and of itself even without the new public space created. Wide multi-lane roads are both harder to cross and noisier. People in residential nabes often talk about how even the subtlest things can affect (aka "destroy") the character of the area. A building a bit too tall, a touch too dense, a shadow here and there, etc. A lot of those people would have a heart-attack and die if you increased the traffic on their two-lane local street by 25%. But in downtown where far more people live and spend time, something that has a major affect on the area character like a huge traffic filled mini-freeway running through it just gets shrugged off. Some of it's just a status quo thing in that if the street had existing public space and there was a proposal to remove much of it to add traffic lanes in the name of traffic capacity there would be an outcry. But when the lanes already exist, it's fine.
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I’m all for added public space, but a little concerned how this would effect one of only a few roads with decent traffic flow in a downtown that’s choking traffic and getting worse.
Indeed. It takes the 501 streetcar 75 minutes to trundle the 8 kilometres from home to Queen and Yonge up from about 45 minutes a decade ago. That was before the Ontario Line diversions too. The TTC has also eliminated stops to improve efficiency and, IMHO, boardings are faster with the new streetcars.
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