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WesternSon · #**8641** Posted **May 5, 2023, 1:54 PM**

I will probably get flamed, but I would almost guess AUS today could be more lucrative than the PDX-HND flight.

GoldenBoot · #**8642** Posted **May 8, 2023, 9:18 PM**

March 2023 up 6.52% over March 2022 (1,941,044 PAX).

1Q2023 is up 19.13% over 1Q2022 (4,911,607 PAX).

https://www.austintexas.gov/news/march-2023-passenger-cargo-traffic-austin-bergstrom

*Still on pace to exceed 25 million PAX in 2023.

guiml · #**8643** Posted **May 8, 2023, 10:02 PM**

Hello, I recently moved to Austin, and I love aviation. I noticed ABIA has a "Family Viewing Area".

I was wondering if you could share what could be the best day/time to catch some widebodies coming in/out of the city. Possibly with some sunlight.

Thanks!

ATX2030 · #**8644** Posted **May 8, 2023, 10:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by GoldenBoot

March 2023 up 6.52% over March 2022 (1,941,044 PAX).

1Q2023 is up 19.13% over 1Q2022 (4,911,607 PAX).

https://www.austintexas.gov/news/march-2023-passenger-cargo-traffic-austin-bergstrom

*Still on pace to exceed 25 million PAX in 2023.

Crazy to think we might hit 25m!

Here's a link that KXAN updates monthly with a ton of stats

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/austin-airport/2023-aus-passenger-stats/

llintner · #**8645** Posted **May 9, 2023, 1:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by guiml

Hello, I recently moved to Austin, and I love aviation. I noticed ABIA has a "Family Viewing Area".

I was wondering if you could share what could be the best day/time to catch some widebodies coming in/out of the city. Possibly with some sunlight.

Thanks!

Mondays are the heaviest for widebody activity at AUS;
BA191 is an A350-1000 that arrives at 15:55 (BA191/190)
LH469 is a B787-9 that departs to FRA at 16:00 (LH468/469)
KL667 is a B787-9 that arrives from AMS at 16:05 (KL667/668)
VS231 is a B787-9 that arrives at 16:45 (VS231/232)

guiml · #**8646** Posted **May 9, 2023, 2:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by llintner

Mondays are the heaviest for widebody activity at AUS;
BA191 is an A350-1000 that arrives at 15:55 (BA191/190)
LH469 is a B787-9 that departs to FRA at 16:00 (LH468/469)
KL667 is a B787-9 that arrives from AMS at 16:05 (KL667/668)
VS231 is a B787-9 that arrives at 16:45 (VS231/232)

Allright! I'll be there Monday around 3pm! Thanks for the tip!

LoneStarMike · #**8647** Posted **May 9, 2023, 11:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by GoldenBoot

March 2023 up 6.52% over March 2022 (1,941,044 PAX).

1Q2023 is up 19.13% over 1Q2022 (4,911,607 PAX).

https://www.austintexas.gov/news/march-2023-passenger-cargo-traffic-austin-bergstrom

International passengers:

March 2023 up 51.28% over March 2022 (87,049 PAX).

1Q2023 is up 62.78% over 1Q2022 (209,670 PAX).

Austin-Bergstrom International Airport
Aviation Activity Report

ILUVSAT · #**8648** Posted **May 17, 2023, 7:34 PM**

Unless it was a typo or misunderstanding in the attached article - why in the world does it take AUS roughly the same amount of time to build a $164 million, 80,000 SF, 3-gate extension to the BJT as DFW can build a new, $1.63 billion, 15-gate Terminal F? Both are slated to be delivered in 2026.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre...-agree-to-build-airports-sixth-terminal/

ATXboom · #**8649** Posted **May 17, 2023, 7:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Unless it was a typo or misunderstanding in the attached article - why in the world does it take AUS roughly the same amount of time to build a $164 million, 80,000 SF, 3-gate extension to the BJT as DFW can build a new, $1.63 billion, 15-gate Terminal F? Both are slated to be delivered in 2026.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre...-agree-to-build-airports-sixth-terminal/

That's depressing.

paul78701 · #**8650** Posted **May 17, 2023, 7:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Unless it was a typo or misunderstanding in the attached article - why in the world does it take AUS roughly the same amount of time to build a $164 million, 80,000 SF, 3-gate extension to the BJT as DFW can build a new, $1.63 billion, 15-gate Terminal F? Both are slated to be delivered in 2026.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre...-agree-to-build-airports-sixth-terminal/

I'd speculate that adding a completely new terminal likely won't affect current operations or require the extra logistics that are going to be needed for the AUS extension. i.e. They aren't going to have to reallocate gates and shift schedules and who knows what else. Just build and go.

Novacek · #**8651** Posted **May 17, 2023, 8:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by paul78701

I'd speculate that adding a completely new terminal likely won't affect current operations or require the extra logistics that are going to be needed for the AUS extension. i.e. They aren't going to have to reallocate gates and shift schedules and who knows what else. Just build and go.

It also may be that this has been in work longer.

"DFW-based American and the airport had announced plans to build a new terminal in 2019, but the COVID pandemic put the project on the back burner"

even though it was on the "back burner" they could have still been working through planning/clearance/architectural issues.

SproutingTowers · #**8652** Posted **May 17, 2023, 9:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Novacek

It also may be that this has been in work longer.

"DFW-based American and the airport had announced plans to build a new terminal in 2019, but the COVID pandemic put the project on the back burner"

even though it was on the "back burner" they could have still been working through planning/clearance/architectural issues.

Austin has lots of permits and environmental studies before construction starts and even during. One endangered spider found in underground caves while digging can hold up a project for months.

chinchaaa · #**8653** Posted **May 18, 2023, 12:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Unless it was a typo or misunderstanding in the attached article - why in the world does it take AUS roughly the same amount of time to build a $164 million, 80,000 SF, 3-gate extension to the BJT as DFW can build a new, $1.63 billion, 15-gate Terminal F? Both are slated to be delivered in 2026.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre...-agree-to-build-airports-sixth-terminal/

You should jump in there and get it done then

llintner · #**8654** Posted **May 18, 2023, 3:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Unless it was a typo or misunderstanding in the attached article - why in the world does it take AUS roughly the same amount of time to build a $164 million, 80,000 SF, 3-gate extension to the BJT as DFW can build a new, $1.63 billion, 15-gate Terminal F? Both are slated to be delivered in 2026.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre...-agree-to-build-airports-sixth-terminal/

A true apples to apples comparison is pretty difficult, if not impossible to make. One could be equally dramatic by pointing out that one project will cost over $108 million per gate and the other #54 million, but that wouldn't be a fair comparison either.

ATX2030 · #**8655** Posted **May 18, 2023, 1:33 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Unless it was a typo or misunderstanding in the attached article - why in the world does it take AUS roughly the same amount of time to build a $164 million, 80,000 SF, 3-gate extension to the BJT as DFW can build a new, $1.63 billion, 15-gate Terminal F? Both are slated to be delivered in 2026.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/bre...-agree-to-build-airports-sixth-terminal/

Some airports kick-ass and get things done while some airports make excuse after excuse as to why they can or can't get things done. I'll give AUS one thing they're great at the latter.

Novacek · #**8656** Posted **May 25, 2023, 1:32 PM**

Item 35 at the next council meeting is

"Approve a settlement in City of Austin v. Lonestar Holdings, LLC, Cause No. C-1-PB-22-001462 in the Travis County District Court, and Lonestar Holdings, LLC v. City of Austin, Cause No. 1:22-cv-00770, in the United States District Court for the Western Division, Austin, Texas."

No real details

https://www.austintexas.gov/department/city-council/2023/20230601-reg.htm

ATX2030 · #**8657** Posted **May 25, 2023, 2:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Novacek

Item 35 at the next council meeting is

"Approve a settlement in City of Austin v. Lonestar Holdings, LLC, Cause No. C-1-PB-22-001462 in the Travis County District Court, and Lonestar Holdings, LLC v. City of Austin, Cause No. 1:22-cv-00770, in the United States District Court for the Western Division, Austin, Texas."

No real details

https://www.austintexas.gov/department/city-council/2023/20230601-reg.htm

Watson lighting fires.....nice to see

freerover · #**8658** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 4:52 PM**

The south terminal nightmare is over.

urbancore · #**8659** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by freerover

The south terminal nightmare is over.

An $88m screw up. Where does the buck stop with this one?

freerover · #**8660** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 5:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by urbancore

An $88m screw up. Where does the buck stop with this one?

I don't think it's a screw up. The south terminal provided badly needed terminal space for cheap airlines. We also didn't spend any money operating it or setting it up. So basically, we spent about 15 million dollars a year subsidizing family vacations for the people of Austin. Maybe that's a waste to some people. I think it's fine.