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tjp · #**4341** Posted **May 25, 2023, 4:39 PM**

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And I named a pro-business action he took. I think this is part of the disconnect. Let the guy propose some bad ideas before roasting him for destroying the city with his bad ideas. It's hyperbolic at this point.

He proposed a lot of bad, anti-business ideas during the campaign and as a CTU lobbyist, so I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to be concerned even if he hasn’t managed to screw anything up over the last week.

Steely Dan · #**4342** Posted **May 25, 2023, 5:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by tjp

He proposed a lot of bad, anti-business ideas during the campaign and as a CTU lobbyist, so I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to be concerned even if he hasn’t managed to screw anything up over the last week.

BULLSEYE!!

Now if JB is able to babysit BJ well enough to prevent him from giving into his craziest uber-lefty desires, as some have promoted, that will obviously be fantastic, but I'd still much rather have a mayor who's not fucked in the head enough to actually believe that a head tax is a good idea (regardless of whether or not he actually accomplishes it).

moorhosj1 · #**4343** Posted **May 25, 2023, 7:14 PM**

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but I'd still much rather have a mayor who's not fucked in the head enough to actually believe that a head tax is a good idea (regardless of whether or not he actually accomplishes it).

The same tax we had in effect when Paul Vallas was Revenue Director and then Budget Director? I'm not in support of it myself, but the response just seems over-the-top.

Steely Dan · #**4344** Posted **May 25, 2023, 9:09 PM**

^ and it was as stupid then as it is now.

Why in gods name would anyone in city leadership want to disincentivize companies from creating new jobs in, and bring new jobs to, chicago???

It defies all reason and logic.

What kind of head-up-their-ass moron would want to bring it back?

Oh, right....

tjp · #**4345** Posted **May 25, 2023, 9:55 PM**

The financial transaction tax is what really takes the cake. I can't take seriously any candidate or group that supports that.

left of center · #**4346** Posted **May 26, 2023, 3:38 AM**

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The financial transaction tax is what really takes the cake. I can't take seriously any candidate or group that supports that.

The only reason I don't want JB to run for president is so that he can remain IL governor and keep BJ and any other future mayor from trying to enact anything that is remotely as stupid.

Vlajos · #**4347** Posted **May 28, 2023, 9:34 PM**

12 dead and over 20 more shot so far. Mass shooting in Lake View last night. BJs peacekeepers doing a bang up job.

skysoar · #**4348** Posted **May 28, 2023, 10:06 PM**

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12 dead and over 20 more shot so far. Mass shooting in Lake View last night. BJs peacekeepers doing a bang up job.

What, you expect 40 to 50 people to cover a city of over 200 square miles, even the police can't do that. I was not for Brandon Johnson either but I don't expect any government official to be a miracle worker. Crime is everywhere throughout the country now, we can only hope things get better. Have Chicago ever been a low crime city? I am willing to give this administration 6 mos. to a year, not a weekend, and then I will evaluate one way or the other, and I believe the majority of Chicagoans will too.

marothisu · #**4349** Posted **May 29, 2023, 1:43 AM**

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12 dead and over 20 more shot so far. Mass shooting in Lake View last night. BJs peacekeepers doing a bang up job.

Not a mass shooting, but tragic nonetheless. I'm not sure why anybody would expect anything different. I voted for Vallas and I wouldn't expect anything different even with him in the matter of 2 weeks. These things take time to change, unfortunately. Expecting immediate change of anyone's first few months in office IMO is a bit foolish no matter if it's Johnson, Vallas, or anyone else. Johnson took off less than 2 weeks ago. I wasn't for the guy but it's a bit insane to expect a guy to work a miracle 2 weeks later on the job. Pretty sure you're smart enough to actually realize that.

tjp · #**4350** Posted **May 29, 2023, 2:57 AM**

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Not a mass shooting, but tragic nonetheless. I'm not sure why anybody would expect anything different. I voted for Vallas and I wouldn't expect anything different even with him in the matter of 2 weeks. These things take time to change, unfortunately. Expecting immediate change of anyone's first few months in office IMO is a bit foolish no matter if it's Johnson, Vallas, or anyone else. Johnson took off less than 2 weeks ago. I wasn't for the guy but it's a bit insane to expect a guy to work a miracle 2 weeks later on the job. Pretty sure you're smart enough to actually realize that.

I agree it's ridiculous to pin this weekend's violence on Johnson, but has he proposed anything that we can realistically hope is going to reduce crime in the short term? I'm afraid we're going to see a lot more weekends like this one.

marothisu · #**4351** Posted **May 29, 2023, 4:47 AM**

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I agree it's ridiculous to pin this weekend's violence on Johnson, but has he proposed anything that we can realistically hope is going to reduce crime in the short term? I'm afraid we're going to see a lot more weekends like this one.

No idea, but I find it hard to use Memorial Day weekend as a barometer typically. It's usually been a pretty violent weekend no matter who is in office. Back in 2012, 10 were killed over that weekend (Rahm in office) as an example. There were over 70 people shot in 2016, which was worse than now in terms of violence in the city with Rahm in office still. In 2017 there were around 55 shot.

SIGSEGV · #**4352** Posted **May 29, 2023, 5:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

No idea, but I find it hard to use Memorial Day weekend as a barometer typically. It's usually been a pretty violent weekend no matter who is in office. Back in 2012, 10 were killed over that weekend (Rahm in office) as an example. There were over 70 people shot in 2016, which was worse than now in terms of violence in the city with Rahm in office still. In 2017 there were around 55 shot.

I bet there's more of a correlation with weather than who is in office...

glowrock · #**4353** Posted **May 29, 2023, 11:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Vlajos

12 dead and over 20 more shot so far. Mass shooting in Lake View last night. BJs peacekeepers doing a bang up job.

So now you've resorted to using death and violence as a cheap political tool. Classy.

marothisu · #**4354** Posted **May 29, 2023, 2:13 PM**

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I bet there's more of a correlation with weather than who is in office...

Typically. Nice weather and school being out typically mark a violent weekend. A lot of people without AC too may end up spending more time outside on hot days and voila. There's been a ton of studies for decades in many cities on this too.

A new elect of 2 weeks in office whether it was Vallas or Johnson wouldn't have changed the outcome of this weekend sadly. Chicago's violence has been a bit amped up since 2016 especially (2019 was a down year but look ar some other stats for the year and ...not necessarily). Not sure why anyone would think that someone in office for 2 weeks would magically change anything.

ChiMIchael · #**4355** Posted **May 29, 2023, 3:01 PM**

I'm starting the believe that some people think that BJ is more charismatic than he really is.

Steely Dan · #**4356** Posted **May 29, 2023, 3:05 PM**

Yeah, trying to pin bog-standard (though obviously still horrendous) Chicago memorial day weekend violence on a 2 week old mayor is pretty fucking stupid (but so is our new mayor, so I get where the temptation to do so might come from).

Memorial day weekend has been a shit-show in this town for like the past 60 years.

Besides, the root of the current spike of the past handful of years really lies at the feet of Kim Foxx.

Worst. DA. Ever.

left of center · #**4357** Posted **May 30, 2023, 2:10 AM**

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Besides, the root of the current spike of the past handful of years really lies at the feet of Kim Foxx.

Worst. DA. Ever.

Truer words never spoken. She sucks and needs to go. Thank god she is not running again for reelection.

Here is to hoping that her replacement is at least halfway competent.

Klippenstein · #**4358** Posted **May 30, 2023, 3:02 PM**

^Truer words? I’m pretty sure every American city just experienced a spike in crime that was very clearly pandemic related. How about the reduction in crime since the spike? Was that also thanks to Foxx or no?

Vlajos · #**4359** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 4:19 PM**

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^Truer words? I’m pretty sure every American city just experienced a spike in crime that was very clearly pandemic related. How about the reduction in crime since the spike? Was that also thanks to Foxx or no?

Crime is up over 40% in Chicago from last year.

Randomguy34 · #**4360** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 4:22 PM**

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Crime is up over 40% in Chicago from last year.

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