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[plrh]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I’m for bike lanes everywhere and always but these are yet again lanes from nowhere to nowhere. Without the bridge crossing the river these are useless bike lanes.

They will be useful for me. I go between River Heights and St B a lot. But I agree the new bridge will be helpful. Connecting Wellington to the Norwood bridge is a big step.

[zalf]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I’m for bike lanes everywhere and always but these are yet again lanes from nowhere to nowhere. Without the bridge crossing the river these are useless bike lanes.

I think it actually links up rather decently to existing or near-future bike infrastructure. The design connects the multiuse path at Harkness Station and the Norwood Bridge. That in turn gets you to the St Boniface protected lanes described in Moving on Marion that run down Marion and Goulet. Also gets you all the way from Wellington to the Forks.

It would be nice if the Osborne Bridge didn't 🞵🞵🞵🞵 🞵🞵🞵, though. The paths there are wide enough that the City could probably replace the Cyclists Must Dismount signs with Cyclists Must Yield to Pedestrians. Doesn't change anything materially, but it would be acknowledging reality and it would nice to not have the nagging fear of getting fined by an understimulated bylaw officer. The bigger problem is how narrow it gets at 11 Evergreen and the Shell.

[pegster]

^ Agreed.

As a cyclist who lives in the Village, between River and Stradbrook, these bike lanes will be much appreciated and become part of my daily commute (come warmer weather). It's now the cycling experience on Osborne, and particularly the bridge I must cross to get to work every day, that needs to catch up.

[trueviking]

I’m definitely not opposed to them but for such a big intervention they just don’t connect things to things. I personally can’t envision where I’d be going to use them. A north-south connection for OV should be the top priority. Connect OV to the rest of the city.

I wish it at least connected to the Maryland Bridge and Sherbrook lane instead of spitting you out on to a terrifying stretch of Wellington. I ride on the sidewalk from Stradbrook to the bridge when I’m there.

I heard that the Moving on Marion plan is 15 years from implementation.

[pegster]

Agree, if it connected to Maryland and Sherbrooke bridge, say if there was a bike lane on Wellington there, you'd have a pretty pleasant cycling way to and from The Forks on both sides of the river. Maybe one day?

[zalf]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I heard that the Moving on Marion plan is 15 years from implementation.

Yikes. I didn't realize it was so far out. Though Goulet is in such rough shape, I'll hold out some hope that that component will be dealt with sooner.

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by zalf

Yikes. I didn't realize it was so far out. Though Goulet is in such rough shape, I'll hold out some hope that that component will be dealt with sooner.

Yea couldn't they do like what was done to Pembina? Add the bike lanes when rehab is being done? It's piecemeal but two-birds-one-stone that would reduce overall capital spending.

[Johnny199r]

Hooray for more protection from being killed while riding my bicycle! Looking forward to this.

[bomberjet]

*15 years* in the old lady from Titantic voice.

[anthonyk]

I am moving to Winnipeg from Steinbach in April and I am so excited to be able to bike places, I know Winnipeg isn't known for its AT infrastructure, but it is way better than Steinbach and I am looking forward to it.

I still have to commute to the Steinbach area 3 days per week though...

[plrh]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

I am moving to Winnipeg from Steinbach in April and I am so excited to be able to bike places, I know Winnipeg isn't known for its AT infrastructure, but it is way better than Steinbach and I am looking forward to it.

I still have to commute to the Steinbach area 3 days per week though...

That's a long ride.jk

[esquire]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

I am moving to Winnipeg from Steinbach in April and I am so excited to be able to bike places, I know Winnipeg isn't known for its AT infrastructure, but it is way better than Steinbach and I am looking forward to it.

I still have to commute to the Steinbach area 3 days per week though...

I always thought smaller communities were pretty bike friendly? Nothing is really too far to cycle to in Steinbach, and really other than the main drags of PTH 12/52 which are pretty busy, most other streets are fairly quiet and don't have excessively heavy traffic.

[3de14eec6a]

Originally Posted by plrh

That's a long ride.jk

I do weekend rides to my parent's place in Steinbach and back to my place in North Kildonan during the summer. It's pretty fast unless there's a headwind both ways.


Steinbach has no real cycling infrastructure. There are a few sharrows - but paint isn't infrastructure. And one or two multiuse paths. Some actually connecting areas in good ways. But those are mostly used by elderly people walking (like my parents).
But agreeing with esquire, it doesn't really need much. I cycled around the streets in Steinbach a lot in the years before I moved to Winnipeg. Nearly everything is low speed streets aside from from the mile square and the highways. And main has enough lights, and is wide enough that it isn't a problem.

[CoryB]

For anyone that still seriously thinks mixed use pathways are okay in Winnipeg for pedestrians and bikes, including ebikes, to share a space look at this. That is the direction ebikes are moving towards. They do not require a license to operate, can do 32 km/h and currently are allowed anywhere bikes are. Yes this Fiat is technically not an ebike, yet, and isn't available in North America, yet, but it is the direction the market is heading.

[CoryB]

Yes, someone is going to point on why that "isn't a bike" but factually this one is an ebike and there are similar ones that have been in Manitoba already. Considering the Fiat is being marketed in Europe as essentially a car for teens that don't have licenses and the growth of full fledged road going EVs in Canada it won't be long until we see something like the Fiat as an ebike here.

[esquire]

I would look to Asia for answers to this issue... although they're somewhat new here, ebikes have been very popular there for over 25 years. I'm sure they have sorted out some of the best ways to deal with this.

[WestEndWander]

Originally Posted by CoryB

For anyone that still seriously thinks mixed use pathways are okay in Winnipeg for pedestrians and bikes, including ebikes, to share a space look at this. That is the direction ebikes are moving towards. They do not require a license to operate, can do 32 km/h and currently are allowed anywhere bikes are. Yes this Fiat is technically not an ebike, yet, and isn't available in North America, yet, but it is the direction the market is heading.

Comparing this to e-bikes is a bit ingenuous. Many urban municipalities have begun to regulate e-scooters and I don't think e-bike regulation will be far behind.

If you're an avid manual power cycler you can already hit a steady 25km/hr. pace on any multi use pathway in the city. We have giant trucks and SUV's flying around a mere foot away from every major pedestrian corridor in the city. I would think regulation of those types of vehicles should be more of a priority in regards to everyone's safety.

[Johnny199r]

I find people who drive those battery-powered mopeds on sidewalks/bike lanes incredibly annoying.

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by WestEndWander

Comparing this to e-bikes is a bit ingenuous. Many urban municipalities have begun to regulate e-scooters and I don't think e-bike regulation will be far behind.

If you think companies aren't working on ways to bring something like that Fiat out and call it an ebike in North America the only person you are fooling is yourself. It is just a matter of time.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by CoryB

If you think companies aren't working on ways to bring something like that Fiat out and call it an ebike in North America the only person you are fooling is yourself. It is just a matter of time.

You seem to think that just cause something is called an ebike it will automatically be allowed wherever bikes are. You know things can be outlawed pretty easily.