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Old Posted May 18, 2023, 7:50 PM
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It's looking pretty accurate to me so far.
Still more to be done to get a better idea.
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Old Posted May 18, 2023, 11:44 PM
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for comparison
looks pretty accurate- still hoping for a podium change of brick and stone design in the front compared to their render *fingers crossed*
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Great photo! Can't wait to see this one finished
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 10:27 AM
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Thank you Akiraredacted. It was just a lucky opportunity with the sunlight just right, I guess.
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 3:42 PM
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It is real brick, but it's been laid like garbage. The seams shouldn't exist for hand laid bricks. I saw these bricks in a pile before they went up. Whoever installed these should be ashamed.
Those seams in the red-brown brick line up with the tops of the windows beneath the lintels. I haven't seen it close up, but maybe this was intentional (if that's what is being noted)

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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 7:02 PM
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they are expansion joints to allow for the building to breath a bit. I wouldn't be overly concerned and are pretty minor in my opinion.

The bigger issue here to me is the sort of half-historicism of it all, looking like a heritage building but not doing it quite right. Seems sort of disneylandish, if not terrible.

Overall it's decent materiality and is far from the rolling disaster that most G+C designed buildings are.. so it's hard to complain.

Once the retail spaces are (hopefully) filled with new restaurants lining King William and residents are moved in, it'll be hard to complain. this will be a huge addition to downtown and cannot be understated.
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 7:03 PM
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they are expansion joints to allow for the building to breath a bit. I wouldn't be overly concerned and are pretty minor in my opinion.

The bigger issue here to me is the sort of half-historicism of it all, looking like a heritage building but not doing it quite right. Seems sort of disneylandish, if not terrible.

Overall it's decent materiality and is far from the rolling disaster that most G+C designed buildings are.. so it's hard to complain.
Yeah I think most of us can agree - we're so used to core urban doing it right that when someone half-asses it we're like "ugh.. you had ONE JOB..."

I do really hope they put awnings above those 1st story grates on the podium though - itll look a lot nicer and give it a warmer vibe if they do.. like if it covers the first grate and the first pane of glass under it..
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 7:51 PM
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I am super stoked on this development, hoping for the best on retailing on all streets. Really wish they could have closed off Hughson for full pedestrian use.
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 8:08 PM
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Really wish they could have closed off Hughson for full pedestrian use.
If the updated LRT plans still include some form of pedestrian connection along that street, it would make a lot of sense to have the King to King William portion closed to through traffic; just allow for building access and that's it. Even if that transit plan has changed it makes sense.

It's been closed for a while now because of the building construction. Has anyone missed using it?
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From what I recall there will be a vehicular entrance to this development from Hughson, which will make pedestrianizing it impossible.

Remember as well that this project will have a very large amount of parking with 2 storeys of commercial parking in addition to the residential parking.
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From what I recall there will be a vehicular entrance to this development from Hughson, which will make pedestrianizing it impossible.

Remember as well that this project will have a very large amount of parking with 2 storeys of commercial parking in addition to the residential parking.
I don't see why it's impossible. You can use retractable bollards. And yes, they exist in cold countries and places in North America.

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Isn't there like 500 units in these buildings? There will be a lot of traffic in and out. Don't think bollards will be practical here.
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Isn't there like 500 units in these buildings? There will be a lot of traffic in and out. Don't think bollards will be practical here.
These bollards can be raised with a button from owners of the building. The bollards could also be set in the down position during busy periods of the day and on a remote from owners during more quiet times. I can't imagine at 2pm there's going to be more than the occasional exit via vehicle in the downtown area of the city.
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Old Posted May 20, 2023, 4:39 PM
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I don't see why it's impossible. You can use retractable bollards. And yes, they exist in cold countries and places in North America.

Bollards work fine in low traffic areas. This will see hundreds of cars coming and going every day, it’s just not practical at those traffic levels. Commercial garages especially have high turnover rates which means lots of cars coming and going.

I agree it would be great, but with prioritizing King William as being pedestrianized, you need to provide vehicular access to the area. And this development will have probably over a 1,000 vehicle movements every day so it just won’t work.
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Old Posted May 26, 2023, 3:01 AM
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I wonder if those trees will die due to lack of sunlight now..
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Old Posted May 28, 2023, 4:37 PM
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Trees seem to do fine on thinner streets with buildings just as tall in Ottawa?
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Old Posted May 28, 2023, 10:33 PM
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Trees seem to do fine on thinner streets with buildings just as tall in Ottawa?
That's up and down though, as ottawa goes north to south, not side to side where the shadows of the building on the south will blanket these trees in shadow for a large portion of the day. Also most of ottawa street is 2-3 stories.

Granted the trees in gore park seem to do ok - but the buildings are farther away.. even if they are slightly higher in parts.. its just the trees in front of this specific building all lean and curve to the south, so clearly they are reaching towards the sunlight away from their existing building in the north, which has now been blocked. Canyons running left to right are not that great for trees.

Also curious what the "spouts" are made of on both buildings mentioned above - will they rust? Will that cause rust trails under them as the building ages?
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Old Posted May 29, 2023, 4:06 AM
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That's up and down though, as ottawa goes north to south, not side to side where the shadows of the building on the south will blanket these trees in shadow for a large portion of the day. Also most of ottawa street is 2-3 stories.
I believe Beedok meant Ottawa the city, not the local street.

I guess we'll find out. Anyone know what kind of trees those are? Are they native to the region? Will they do just as well shaded for large portions of the day as they would in direct sunlight?

This is an issue that the city will have to deal with as downtown intensifies further. Though I think it's a better problem to have than that of invasive insects killing trees, such as the emerald ash borer.
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Old Posted May 29, 2023, 11:47 AM
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I believe Beedok meant Ottawa the city, not the local street.

I guess we'll find out. Anyone know what kind of trees those are? Are they native to the region? Will they do just as well shaded for large portions of the day as they would in direct sunlight?

This is an issue that the city will have to deal with as downtown intensifies further. Though I think it's a better problem to have than that of invasive insects killing trees, such as the emerald ash borer.
I think those are London Plane trees. Probably the most tolerant urban tree around. It’s a hybrid and not native but used extensively in cities. Same tree as city hall forecourt.

https://www.arborday.org/trees/treeg...cfm?ItemID=904
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