[Burnaby] The Amazing Brentwood | 15 Towers | 186m | 56 flrs | U/C & Proposed

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

and there it is! i knew you sounded like someone from reddit.

It is a fact that only one type of housing form - SFHs - are allowed in the vast majority of most cities while a disproportionate amount of the population lives on the small slivers of land where other housing forms are permitted. In Vancouver, the residential split is 80 - 20 between SFH and multi-family homes.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by chowhou

If you want to save up the money to buy a SFH in the suburbs, you have that right. If someone wants to develop their own property into denser housing, that should be their right too.

And speaking as someone who spends plenty of time in Vancouver backyards, having a SFH doesn't protect you from smokers next door.

That's only when stupid policies from the past allowed that suburb to be converted from a beautiful forest or productive farmland into part of the horrible urban sprawl you see today. You, by doing this, is just encouraging all the wrong policies to continue. That is one of the biggest problems that North American cities have today.

You may have your right, but we all know now that many rights like smoking can harm people in the longer term.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Vin

That's only when stupid policies from the past allowed that suburb to be converted from a beautiful forest or productive farmland into part of the horrible urban sprawl you see today. You, by doing this, is just encouraging all the wrong policies to continue. That is one of the biggest problems that North American cities have today.

You may have your right, but we all know now that many rights like smoking can harm people in the longer term.

That past harm is done, there's no undoing existing sprawl. We're never turning Westwood Plateau back into forests or Whalley back into farmland, so all we can do is live in the city we've built.

Smoking is actually a great example of (in my eyes) good government policy. We (almost) all acknowledge that smoking has negative externalities, so we've attempted to reduce that negative externality with a pigovian tobacco tax. If someone enjoys a cigar and wants to splurge a little sometimes, we afford them the right to pay for that privilege. People are discouraged from starting it in the first place by the price tag, but hey if you still want to we're not going to stop you. On your own land we let you smoke as much as you want for as long as you want, you just gotta pay up.

Housing policy should be the same thing. If someone enjoys a SFH, they should be allowed to pay for the privilege of a SFH, and should be allowed to buy and keep as much vacant land around them as they want — as long as they pay for the negative externalities associated with that desire (inefficient land use, blocking others from accessing parts of the city, wasted infrastructure, environmental cost due to spreading people out, etc.)

Did I mention I like land value taxes? Boo wealth tax on capital, yay land use tax!

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

It is a fact that only one type of housing form - SFHs - are allowed in the vast majority of most cities while a disproportionate amount of the population lives on the small slivers of land where other housing forms are permitted. In Vancouver, the residential split is 80 - 20 between SFH and multi-family homes.

which is why i also mentioned up zoning and building more density in many areas... im not advocating for keeping all the SFH as is, SFH. what i am saying is ensuring we do still have at least some SFH areas that arent being ruined. density doesnt need to be crammed in everywhere, nor should it.

but i dont expect nuance from the reddit crowd, and i can make a good guess on the types of subreddits some of these people here follow based on their comments.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

but i dont expect nuance from the reddit crowd, and i can make a good guess on the types of subreddits some of these people here follow based on their comments.

I can't believe you can say this and not realise how much like a Fox News watcher you sound like.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by chowhou

I can't believe you can say this and not realise how much like a Fox News watcher you sound like.

right, because nothing says hardcore/extremist views like the want to balance the needs of high density, mid density, and low density. using a balanced, nuanced approach. accepting density needs to happen, but disagreeing that it needs to be blanket everywhere. accepting that developments centred around SkyTrain ARE good and should be done.

then theres you, with your "GTFO if you want that" attitude with no balance, or nuance. pushing what you want everywhere. you push this idea that is one OR the other. when the reality is that doesnt have to be the way, nor should it be the way.

right, okay. but youre what i expect from the reddit crowd, and the subreddits im sure you follow.

[Migrant_Coconut]

It's practically inevitable that SFHs are going to be less and less worth it for a developer over the next fifty years. I see basically three options for keeping a low-density neighbourhood past 2060:

• One, the City maintains the RS zoning as the rest of Vancouver densifies around it on all sides, effectively creating another Shaughnessy, at which point the rest of Vancouver cries foul and shuts that down next election.
• Two, the City ditches the RS zoning but offers subsidies and incentives to build SFHs there, effectively creating another Shaughnessy on the taxpayer dollar, at which point the rest of Vancouver cries foul and shuts that down next election.
• Three, the City ditches the RS zoning and hopes the developers keep busy with other neighbourhoods. It's only a matter of time before the first duplexes and quadplexes move in, but the overall community will be able to stay dead for much longer.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

right, because nothing says hardcore/extremist views like the want to balance the needs of high density, mid density, and low density. using a balanced, nuanced approach. accepting density needs to happen, but disagreeing that it needs to be blanket everywhere. accepting that developments centred around SkyTrain ARE good and should be done.

then theres you, with your "GTFO if you want that" attitude with no balance, or nuance. pushing what you want everywhere.

You are clearly delusional, not once have I ever said SFH need to GTFO, you're the only one here you who has said that density needs to GTFO away from you. I am the one in favour of balance, you are the one in favour of enforced zoning irrespective of the demands of people and the economy. I do not respect authoritarians like you. You're so brainwashed into thinking that suburbia is under attack and needs to be protected by legislation that you're willing to destroy a perfectly good city to suit your needs. It's disgusting.

Tell me who's the balanced one, the person who wants society and the market to decide how to best use the land - meaning people who want SFHs should be allowed to buy and build SFHs, or the person who wants to legally enforce that their way of life is the correct one - meaning if anyone wants to buy and build anything else, fuck them?

This is you -> https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/next-dems-hit-list-suburbs

you push this idea that is one OR the other. when the reality is that doesnt have to be the way, nor should it be the way.

I sure hope you aren't dumb enough to think that we have infinite land in Vancouver or something.

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

It's practically inevitable that SFHs are going to be less and less worth it for a developer over the next fifty years.

SFHs in Vancouver are already subsidized by restrictive zoning; the homeowner's grant; unbalanced tax load between commercial, industrial, and residential properties; unbalanced wealth tax on structures vs land; equal infrastructure investment for both low density zoning and high density zoning; and free parking on public property. Probably even missed a bunch. ell me how that's fair and balanced.

I still believe that people should be allowed to buy and own SFHs, if Bill Gates wants to come to Vancouver, buy 4 acres of land in the West End, and build a mansion there that should be his right. He should just be ready to pay $50m a year in land taxes. We need to stop tampering so much with the market.

[SpongeG]

I noticed today that Presotea is closed down, I wonder how long ago it closed, it was a pretty bad location, and another bubble tea place opened up with a much better location. I feel sorry for The Sporting Life, it's a great store but I've never seen it busy, I think people, myself included, forget that there is stuff down on that level.

SuitSupply has been boarded up in a glossy black boarding that Says SuitSupply coming soon, so it's actually gonna open. Maybe it will prompt some others to move in.

Also, is that gelato place ever going to open? still no movement, summer is approaching.

[NewfBC]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

I noticed today that Presotea is closed down, I wonder how long ago it closed, it was a pretty bad location, and another bubble tea place opened up with a much better location. I feel sorry for The Sporting Life, it's a great store but I've never seen it busy, I think people, myself included, forget that there is stuff down on that level.

SuitSupply has been boarded up in a glossy black boarding that Says SuitSupply coming soon, so it's actually gonna open. Maybe it will prompt some others to move in.

Also, is that gelato place ever going to open? still no movement, summer is approaching.

SuitSupply may be even more anxious to open now that they no longer have an outlet at Nordstrom.

Ron.

[RabidMoose]

https://www.burnabynow.com/local-news/fi...s-exhibit-in-burnaby-temporarily-6738060

Any guesses? They threw a prop exhibit in an empty CRU. I'm guessing they didn't modify any sprinkler heads or considered exit paths.

[officedweller]

Seems to be open again:

https://theamazingbrentwood.com/store/marvel-avengers-station/

[SonyPS5]

Looks like a new taco restaurant is opening in the food court across of the viet restaurant.

[Lexus]

2023,Apr 5
I tried different angles and couldn't see the bottom of the pit, it is pretty deep, and we might see a crane going up soon.

Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

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[Lexus]

2023, Apr 13

They came on high alert when I was trying to take photos. This is the best I could get, and after I had to run:

Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

[LeftCoaster]

You're fully within your rights to take pictures of a construction site in Canada. They can tell you not to but they have no basis to do so.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

You're fully within your rights to take pictures of a construction site in Canada. They can tell you not to but they have no basis to do so.

When the mall/food hall was under construction I got chased off the sidewalk by a security guard from in front of the Brentwood One building because I "didn't live there" and I was notified that I would be considered trespassing if I didn't leave. Pretty sure the sidewalk is public land in Canada.

[LeftCoaster]

Sidewalks in a mall are generally not public, though they may be secured by an SRW for public use. Either way they can't reasonably chase you out for taking a picture, and any security guard isn't allowed to do anything other than ask you to leave or call the cops... and they aren't going to call the cops on someone taking a picture of a crane.

[Lexus]

2023, May 25

Pretty deep already!

Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

[Klazu]

Once the complex is fully built, they will have removed a decent size hill of dirt and ground from the site. That's a huge amount of dirt getting relocated.