Atlanta Project Thread IV

[montydawg]

Originally Posted by shivtim

They're cantilevering it over Green's? I love it

I hate how they are preserving greens, but like the pathway to freedom parkway idea. It appears there are only three property owners between new city property and freedom parkway, including the greens property owner and hotel clermont property owner. The other owner owns the Dugans property, which has been rumored to be redeveloped. I’m thinking some of these properties will be redeveloped to face the new path. Would also be a boost to the clermont lounge/hotel with an east way to walk there from the Beltline which didn’t involve walking along ponce. I’m guessing the path on park property between bonaventure and north avenue on park property would not be built by the developer, but would need to be finished by the city or path foundation. Might not be a priority but would be a great connection to the Beltline once completed

[Martinman]

Yeah I've kinda gone back and forth on the plan for Greens and I don't think it would be too difficult to design something cool and interesting for them as the base of the new building. But I don't hate this.

I love the design of the building itself.

[smArTaLlone]

At the Beltline DRC presentation, New City mentioned that development team is working with Green’s to potentially expand and make improvements to the store in exchange for being able to build above the store.

[bryantm3]

The way it cantilevers over Green's looks industrial in a bad way. They at least need to back it up to the property line— truthfully it might be better if the building was stairstepped in the other direction, away from ponce. Maybe they can cantilever over the lot in front of Kroger?

[Street Advocate]

I’m more interested in what they’re going to do to fill the area between 725 & 715 Ponce. That’s still a huge gap and with the demand in the area, should not be limited to car storage & hostile pedestrian environment. I would put housing on top considering the proximity to the grocery & transit.

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

I’m more interested in what they’re going to do to fill the area between 725 & 715 Ponce. That’s still a huge gap and with the demand in the area, should not be limited to car storage & hostile pedestrian environment. I would put housing on top considering the proximity to the grocery & transit.

I agree. I have been keeping an eye on this spot for a while and knew they were going to develop it eventually. I assumed it would encompass the parking lot and the mini parking deck. Surely they wont leave it like this forever

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2023/05/23/publix-grocery-store-old-fourth-ward-fuqua.html

Publix Super Markets Inc. is poised to open at a future mixed-use development in Old Fourth Ward, according to a source familiar with the deal.

The Florida-based company is expected to claim about 45,000 square feet of space at Boulevard and Highland Avenue. Fuqua Development and Northwood Ravin plan to fill the corner lot with 284 apartments atop the grocery store and roughly 12,000 square feet of additional space for local retailers.

The project will take shape on a site formerly used by furniture store Desperate Housewares near Freedom Barkway Dog Park. The redevelopment will add shops and restaurants along Highland and Boulevard, as well as 378 below-ground parking spaces. It is expected to break ground by the first quarter of next year with a two-year construction period, said Jeff Fuqua, principal of the namesake firm.

Rendeiring of a similar proposal in Athens by Northwood Ravin.

[PhunkyPho]

Rendeiring of a similar proposal in Athens by Northwood Ravin.
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I HATE it. There is no parking lot. It's too much unlike what Fuqua would build. This should NEVER be built in Atlanta.




I was in Nashville a few months ago and there was an apartment building built on top of storefronts AND a Publix with a parking deck inside the development. It twas nicw.

[smArTaLlone]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

Publix eyes Old Fourth Ward for new store

The AJC has a rendering of the new development.

[montydawg]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

The AJC has a rendering of the new development.

I like the design overall. The tall thin windows make the building look a bit more elegant than a traditional 5/1. Hopefully this will jump start the redevelopment of the hospital areas. This area has potential to become a dense node, with more of an affordable angle than areas right next to the Beltline. A grocery store is really good news for the area.

[Julien]

Originally Posted by montydawg

I like the design overall. The tall thin windows make the building look a bit more elegant than a traditional 5/1....

You can put all the lipstick in the world on it but you can't hide a 5 over 1.

[smArTaLlone]

[RocketSurgeon]

Speaking of lipstick on a pig ... holy shit, what a nightmare.

I've said this before, but Midtown should ban garages like that. I'm fine with parking but it should be disguised with a facade. If Novare can do it in the 00s there's no excuse for not requiring it now.

[Username123]

I like the building behind it on the left side

I’d love to see all corners of that intersection get redevelopment, except the one where Blake’s is, I like that old row of storefronts.

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Yeah, this is ridiculous. I don't even mind the look of the tower, but that blank wall for the garage is just inexcusable. A handful of of opaque windows would go so far.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

What happened to the rainbow mural/art things that was supposed to face the gay corner

[smArTaLlone]

That rendering was from the retail leasing flyer and may not be 100% accurate (I hope). The deck would be a significant step down from what they presented to the DRC.

[atlnative73]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

That rendering was from the retail leasing flyer and may not be 100% accurate (I hope). The deck would be a significant step down from what they presented to the DRC.

Don't understand how a developer can present one rendering to the DRC and build something completely different (i.e. parking façade). Should the DRC or city require better quality materials similarly to what the city required for the Hotel next to the fox.

[bryantm3]

I get the idea that the façades and parking podiums of these 2010s era projects are going to look dated pretty quickly. I know that in the 1950s and 60s there were a lot of older buildings that got re-cladded. Maybe we'll see another decade with a lot of similar work being done on these more lackluster projects.

[shivtim]

Just saw this planning permit. Maybe Center for Puppetry Arts is selling the southern part of their lot? Currently a one-story windowless building (I believe used for puppet storage) and a surface parking lot.

Concept review committee
"Inquiring on the permissibility for a right-in, right-out on the north curb-cut of 17th Street between Spring Street to the east and the I-75/85 Connector to the west for access into a retail/ residential high rise tower and parking garage. The RIRO will enable 2 desirable "corner" retail parcels and offer another means of ingress and egress to retail patrons and tower residences."