Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability - Page 117

Vin · #**2321** Posted **May 11, 2023, 7:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by cganuelas1995

I don't get how our property values and rent can be so high when this city is going to hell

Many others are with you.

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https://dailyhive.com/canada/canada-provinces-least-satisfied-report-life-satisfaction

WarrenC12 · #**2322** Posted **May 11, 2023, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Only criminals and fake softies hate harsher but appropriate punishments. Others don't.

Back to your support of gulags?

MIPS · #**2323** Posted **May 12, 2023, 5:22 AM**

Buddy came into his shop on the 300 block of Victoria and found someone took something to a half dozen of the glass blocks in his front window.
He's not bothering with insurance this time because it's not worth the rate hike. This is now the second time in a year he's been vandalized, versus 0 broken windows in the last 14 years they've been there.

theKB · #**2324** Posted **May 12, 2023, 11:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by MIPS

Buddy came into his shop on the 300 block of Victoria and found someone took something to a half dozen of the glass blocks in his front window.
He's not bothering with insurance this time because it's not worth the rate hike. This is now the second time in a year he's been vandalized, versus 0 broken windows in the last 14 years they've been there.

I'm not sure if there is a glass shortage due to supply chain or if businesses are electing to not repair in the interest of it happening again, but anecdotally noticing boards up for longer periods of time around downtown. Example Wolford has had boards on its glass facing the lane off burrard for months.

Portland is losing another business - REI is closing it's doors due to theft etc

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2023...rtland-store-citing-break-ins-theft.html

It doesn't seem as bad here for this sort of issue since our downtown core is still much more busy than some of the other cities on the weekends especially - with that said the smaller businesses that are targeted could eventually just throw in the towel. I wonder if the closure of nordstrom will bring further disorder to the granville strip while an entire block is effectively closed for a long period of time.

whatnext · #**2325** Posted **May 12, 2023, 11:42 PM**

No problems downtown, nothing to see here. Unreal video.

@SaveOurCityVan
@saveourcityvan
45m
WARNING: Violent repeat offender on the loose. Happened a few hours ago. Degenerate junkie from @atiraproperty managed Murray Hotel. Trying to steal. Caretaker stood his ground. It’s been reported to the @VPDCommunity
Welcome to #Vancouver #vanpoli

https://twitter.com/saveourcityvan/status/1657157634838106114

jollyburger · #**2326** Posted **May 13, 2023, 5:52 PM**

One of those guys who likes ripping bark off of trees probably killed a fairly mature tree near VCC downtown recently.

Vin · #**2327** Posted **May 15, 2023, 10:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

No problems downtown, nothing to see here. Unreal video.

@SaveOurCityVan
@saveourcityvan
45m
WARNING: Violent repeat offender on the loose. Happened a few hours ago. Degenerate junkie from @atiraproperty managed Murray Hotel. Trying to steal. Caretaker stood his ground. It’s been reported to the @VPDCommunity
Welcome to #Vancouver #vanpoli

https://twitter.com/saveourcityvan/status/1657157634838106114

Kudos to all brave immigrants doing all the sh*tty work like security, etc.

Vin · #**2328** Posted **May 15, 2023, 10:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Back to your support of gulags?

Better than being a supporter of criminals like yourself.

WarrenC12 · #**2329** Posted **May 15, 2023, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Better than being a supporter of criminals like yourself.

Am I a criminal or just a criminal supporter? Be more clear before you get sent to grammar jail.

Sheba · #**2330** Posted **May 17, 2023, 2:23 AM**

B.C. attorney general praises federal bail reform legislation

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B.C. Attorney General Niki Sharma says she welcomes the federal government's new bill that aims to improve Canada's bail system.

The new legislation, tabled Tuesday, is intended to crack down on repeat violent offenders through five specific Criminal Code changes.

Those changes are:

* Creating a new reverse onus for serious repeat violent offences involving weapons where the accused was previously convicted of an offence of the same criteria within the past five years, with both being punishable by 10 years imprisonment or more.

* Adding certain firearms offences to the provisions that trigger a reverse onus to include other indictable offences such as unlawful possession of a loaded prohibited or restricted firearm, and break and enter or robbery to steal a firearm;

* Expanding the current intimate partner violence (IPV) reverse onus to address the enhanced risk to also apply to accused persons previously discharged of an offence involving IPV;

* Clarifying the meaning of "prohibition order" in an existing reverse onus to state that an order includes a court’s release order for bail that imposed conditions around firearms possession; and

* Requiring courts to consider an accused person's history of convictions for violence and other community safety concerns when making bail decisions.

B.C.'s attorney general says the proposed amendments help address issues raised by the provincial government about community safety.

Sharma added that the concerns were shared by other provinces and territories across the country.

"I urge the federal parliament to pass these amendments quickly – communities can’t wait," she said.

B.C. has also launched its own projects to try to address community safety.

This year, the province launched its "Repeat Violent Offending Intervention Initiative," which is intended to increase targeted enforcement of prolific offenders, and improve monitoring for these types of crimes.

The province is also spending $25 million to support repeat violent offender management teams, and recently announced the creation of 12 community hubs that will streamline coordination between police, corrections officials and prosecutors who deal with repeat offenders.

FarmerHaight · #**2331** Posted **May 17, 2023, 4:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

B.C. attorney general praises federal bail reform legislation

Interesting. I guess the first and lasts bullet points may be relevant for Vancouver's struggles (vandalism, theft, and stranger attacks)?

s211 · #**2332** Posted **May 17, 2023, 8:14 PM**

As expected, they're restricting the suggested changes to violent offenders. I suppose serial shoplifting gets a fee pass? That's worked out well for San Fran.

trofirhen · #**2333** Posted **May 17, 2023, 9:20 PM**

The new reverse onus element to this is rather like the element of French Code Law, which gives rise to the descriptive cliché: "In France, you're guilty until proven innocent." I used to think it unfair, even Draconian, but in the context here, it does, in fact, have a real effect in confronting crime... (à mon avis

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whatnext · #**2334** Posted **May 17, 2023, 11:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by s211

As expected, they're restricting the suggested changes to violent offenders. I suppose serial shoplifting gets a fee pass? That's worked out well for San Fran.

Yeah, and its not like we don't have serial shoplifters in Vancouver:

Vancouver shoplifting crackdown nets 138 arrests including 14 repeat offenders
By Simon Little Global News
Posted May 16, 2023

Vancouver police say they made nearly 140 arrests and recovered nearly $37,000 in allegedly stolen goods during a recent two-week anti-shoplifting blitz.

Between April 24 and May 9, officers went undercover for Project Barcode 2, a continuation of a three-week crackdown on violent shoplifters in March. During the operation, police said they worked with management, staff and security to identify chronic and violent offenders.

“Our officers went undercover to detect and arrest the thieves targeting retailers in Vancouver,” Const. Tania Visintin said in a media release.

“Violence and retail crime is still a major concern in Vancouver. Someone going to work to earn a living should not have to be subjected to this type of violence.”...

https://globalnews.ca/news/9703698/vpd-shoplifting-crackdown-april-may-2023/

Vin · #**2335** Posted **May 18, 2023, 7:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Am I a criminal or just a criminal supporter? Be more clear before you get sent to grammar jail.

That's really up to your own interpretation.

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Originally Posted by s211

As expected, they're restricting the suggested changes to violent offenders. I suppose serial shoplifting gets a fee pass? That's worked out well for San Fran.

Many serial shoplifters can also get violent when confronted by staff. Just need to corner them to give us a good reason to haul their butts away. At least the law gives police officers, owners, staff and security guards the incentive to stop these bastards.

Speaking of criminal elements, on the way out to work two days ago, I was checking mail in the mailroom when a sketchy bum came into the condo building, then seeing me there, turned towards to the elevator waiting area pretending to be waiting for one. I did not budge and asked him if he was a resident, in which he replied yes. Moments later, an older neighbour came into the lobby and both of us asked him to leave, and we were ready for a fight. Well, the guy relented and left. Good thing we were there as the mail room was full of packages. Must stay vigilant these days to prevent crime.

WarrenC12 · #**2336** Posted **May 18, 2023, 8:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Moments later, an older neighbour came into the lobby and both of us asked him to leave, and we were ready for a fight. Well, the guy relented and left. Good thing we were there as the mail room was full of packages. Must stay vigilant these days to prevent crime.

Internet tough guy confirmed.

GenWhy? · #**2337** Posted **May 18, 2023, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Speaking of criminal elements, on the way out to work two days ago, I was checking mail in the mailroom when a sketchy bum came into the condo building, then seeing me there, turned towards to the elevator waiting area pretending to be waiting for one. I did not budge and asked him if he was a resident, in which he replied yes. Moments later, an older neighbour came into the lobby and both of us asked him to leave, and we were ready for a fight. Well, the guy relented and left. Good thing we were there as the mail room was full of packages. Must stay vigilant these days to prevent crime.

Sounds like your neighbours are the problem letting strangers into the building.

whatnext · #**2338** Posted **May 18, 2023, 8:30 PM**

Gotta love the crowd the OPS site is bringing to Yaletown, just a block from a park:

https://twitter.com/SarcasticallyAJ/status/1658258921721839616

WarrenC12 · #**2339** Posted **May 18, 2023, 9:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Gotta love the crowd the OPS site is bringing to Yaletown, just a block from a park:

https://twitter.com/SarcasticallyAJ/status/1658258921721839616

One of the ABC councilors said they will move it. I wonder if that will happen and where. Pt. Grey sounds good to me.

Vin · #**2340** Posted **May 18, 2023, 10:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Sounds like your neighbours are the problem letting strangers into the building.

No one is perfect, but next time we see that lady who walks her dog daily, we will give her a good chiding.

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

One of the ABC councilors said they will move it. I wonder if that will happen and where. Pt. Grey sounds good to me.

Why not Main Street at the OV? There are so many abandoned side streets and alleys to conduct shady transactions or administer "safe" drugs. Macky D's washrooms also provide good indoor venues to shoot up should the weather be undesirable outside.