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Old Posted May 2, 2023, 6:51 PM
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In addition, it has five roundabouts and a third of the people in the neighborhood have no idea how to use them and come to a complete stop at each one when the circle is empty, causing frequent fender benders and slowing traffic to a crawl, which got me to the point of anger where it was affecting my mental health.
Why is it that Gatineau drivers have so many issues with roundabouts? One of my colleagues lives in Almer and he despises them for that reason, yet from my experience most people here in Ottawa seem to have figured them out. Almost no one uses their turn signals properly in them, but they seem to understand the concept of how to merge in.

I find far more people don't know how to properly navigate all-way stops than roundabouts.

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As for the headlights....it's an epidemic at this point, on both sides of the river. I'm not sure where all of these cars lacking daytime running lights came from in the last five years, but they are everywhere now. I see completely oblivious idiots driving around in all weather and lighting conditions with no lights these days. Yesterday morning at 6am in 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 rain and near darkness I saw many of them through Gatineau and Ottawa on my commute.
I don't know about the daytime running lights, but I think part of the problem is dashboards that are illuminated during the daytime. If your dashboard is dark, it is easy to notice that your headlights aren't on at night, but if it is illuminated, the only way to notice is the lack of the headlight lamp on the dashboard. I would like to see the following two regulations for new cars:
  • Cars with daytime illuminated dashboards must have automatic headlights.
  • Headlights turn on when your wipers are on.
That might not cover all situations (like fog), but it should cover most.
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If your dashboard is dark, it is easy to notice that your headlights aren't on at night, but if it is illuminated, the only way to notice is the lack of the headlight lamp on the dashboard.
I started driving in 1992 and had a 1980 Mustang. The cluster would not light up unless you pulled the lights. Big, obvious tell that your lights were not on.

Idiots today just think everything is automated.
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In addition, it has five roundabouts and a third of the people in the neighborhood have no idea how to use them and come to a complete stop at each one when the circle is empty, causing frequent fender benders and slowing traffic to a crawl, which got me to the point of anger where it was affecting my mental health. That neighborhood needs mass transit and it desperately needs another exit to Allumettieres near Agora/Centrale/Nox.
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I am also very defensive entering those roundabouts on du Plateau.. especially at night when you see someone who forgot to turn on their lights (how do these people get licenses to drive?)
If the tramway is ever built, the City will be removing the roundabouts.

There are a few roundabouts where I'm defensive, resting my hand on the horn as I turn. I find that turning right or going straight is not too bad, but turning left (from the left lane), drivers coming in often assume they have the right of way, or won't be "going straight".

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I have thought about this a lot and I think the best way to improve Allumettieres without being too destructive and without too much expropriation is to sink it like Décarie in Montreal in all of the crossroad sections, all the way from Eardley to Maisonneuve, with the same kind of space saving inline ramps.

As for the headlights....it's an epidemic at this point, on both sides of the river. I'm not sure where all of these cars lacking daytime running lights came from in the last five years, but they are everywhere now. I see completely oblivious idiots driving around in all weather and lighting conditions with no lights these days. Yesterday morning at 6am in 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 rain and near darkness I saw many of them through Gatineau and Ottawa on my commute.
Allumettières needs to be fully grade separated at Vanier, at the very lest. Des Grives is the only spot that doesn't seem to bad (at least from my experiences 6+ years ago). Another exit is badly needed between Des Grives and Vanier, for sure. At least Aylmer has plenty of intersections (that may benefit from some grade seperation, I don't know).

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I started driving in 1992 and had a 1980 Mustang. The cluster would not light up unless you pulled the lights. Big, obvious tell that your lights were not on.

Idiots today just think everything is automated.
Cars are too technological now. Distractions (a giant screen you need to search through for climate control and the radio, take phone calls), "safety" features driver rely on much more than they should. I miss the days where we controlled the car, the cars didn't control us. When they were easy to fix as they were mostly just mechanical.

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I don't know about the daytime running lights, but I think part of the problem is dashboards that are illuminated during the daytime. If your dashboard is dark, it is easy to notice that your headlights aren't on at night, but if it is illuminated, the only way to notice is the lack of the headlight lamp on the dashboard. I would like to see the following two regulations for new cars:
  • Cars with daytime illuminated dashboards must have automatic headlights.
  • Headlights turn on when your wipers are on.
That might not cover all situations (like fog), but it should cover most.
If we have to stick with all the technology, then yes.
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I wonder if they will ever turn Allumettières into a full freeway from Lac-des-fées to Eardley. At the rate they are adding people to the western part of Gatineau, it should be on the radar.

Widening Pink is not a solution.
The des Grives intersection would be tricky to convert due to the presence of the overhead pedestrian bridge.

Converting the Vanier intersection to an interchange was proposed deep in the campaign points of at least one of the candidates in the last provincial election (PLQ maybe?) but that requires a major overhaul of Ch Vanier between north of Boul du Plateau and south of McConnell. Just thinking about how that could even be done without making things so much worse there in the interim makes my head hurt.

I agree that probably Pink does not need to be widened beyond du Prado (I do think it should be widened up to du Prado, from des Grives), but the intersection of Pink/Vanier is in major need of an upgrade. A roundabout would be ideal there, but even traffic lights would be an improvement. It's far too busy for a 4-way stop now.
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I started driving in 1992 and had a 1980 Mustang. The cluster would not light up unless you pulled the lights. Big, obvious tell that your lights were not on.
Exactly! I remember going on my first date in my parent's AMC Hornet and after I picked her up I couldn't see where I was going and she asked if my lights were on.

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Idiots today just think everything is automated.
The problem is when people rely on the automation without thinking on their own. Just like the idiots who blindly follow their GPS, even if it has them drive into a lake. People need to realize that current automation features are there to assist the driver, not replace the driver.

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If we have to stick with all the technology, then yes.
I don't see technology going away anytime soon.
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I agree that probably Pink does not need to be widened beyond du Prado (I do think it should be widened up to du Prado, from des Grives), but the intersection of Pink/Vanier is in major need of an upgrade. A roundabout would be ideal there, but even traffic lights would be an improvement. It's far too busy for a 4-way stop now.
Yes, up to Prado looks like it will be done eventually. I have no problem with that.

Aren't they supposed to be building a new Eco-centre at Pink and Vanier? That would be welcome. I hauled a bunch of renovation stuff twice in the past month to the one in Hull. The lineup to get in was pretty long the first time - looked like everyone in the city had the spring cleaning itch.
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Yes, up to Prado looks like it will be done eventually. I have no problem with that.

Aren't they supposed to be building a new Eco-centre at Pink and Vanier? That would be welcome. I hauled a bunch of renovation stuff twice in the past month to the one in Hull. The lineup to get in was pretty long the first time - looked like everyone in the city had the spring cleaning itch.
Meanwhile in Ottawa, drop all this 🞵🞵🞵🞵 at the curb and garbage collection will pick it up. Pretty much anything that’s not an appliance anyway. Not for much longer though.
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Meanwhile in Ottawa, drop all this 🞵🞵🞵🞵 at the curb and garbage collection will pick it up. Pretty much anything that’s not an appliance anyway. Not for much longer though.
They'll take appliances too, often times. Depends on the waste collector. I've seen many take BBQs. If it's all metal, it's recyclable. The City should have a few days a year to pick-up scrap metal and cash it in, or have a volunteer program for scrap metal. Or, you know, Eco Centre.
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Meanwhile in Ottawa, drop all this 🞵🞵🞵🞵 at the curb and garbage collection will pick it up. Pretty much anything that’s not an appliance anyway. Not for much longer though.
Gatineau has certain days they will take your large 🞵🞵🞵🞵. Today, actually.. in my neighbourhood. I have a sectional couch on the curb right now.

I would have taken it to the ecocentre too but I don't have a pickup truck.
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On the same note, I am really getting pissed off driving on Plateau and seeing couches and appliances just dumped on the edge of the property..especially right around the intersection with Vanier. My 13 year old said, "Why are they dumping their garbage there?"

Son, I don't know.
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On the same note, I am really getting pissed off driving on Plateau and seeing couches and appliances just dumped on the edge of the property..especially right around the intersection with Vanier. My 13 year old said, "Why are they dumping their garbage there?"

Son, I don't know.
You are criticizing a time honoured Gatineau spring tradition. My street is littered right now with old furniture, mattresses, and worn out winter tires the garbage trucks wouldn't take. It makes me feel at home
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Well, it looks like Gatineau City Hall finally noticed the complete warzone on the roads in Aylmer post pandemic. Amazing what happens when you build thousands of new units in an area and don't improve the roads and transportation.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/197...h36roDGsNqq-OGwMsmf7-TkJnqxQFY7_hYPnHVZo

Vers un moratoire pour ralentir le développement immobilier dans l’ouest de Gatineau

Un immeuble de logements en construction à Gatineau.

Un chantier de construction à Gatineau (Photo d'archives)

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Le conseil municipal de la Ville de Gatineau a adopté mardi soir, à l'unanimité, une proposition de règlement de contrôle intérimaire (RCI) visant à restreindre le développement immobilier dans l’ouest de la ville.

Toutefois, le conseil municipal devra entériner le règlement après que l'administration aura mis en place les spécificités du RCI.

Ce dernier fait état de trois mandats, soit les axes routiers, le transport et la biodiversité.

Le président du comité exécutif de la Ville, Daniel Champagne, ainsi que la conseillère municipale du district du Plateau, Bettyna Bélizaire, admettent que la rue Vanier est amenée à être élargie pour répondre au besoin de transport des résidents. Mais le développement doit être encadré, soutient la conseillère.

« Cette croissance arrive avec beaucoup de problèmes, dont le manque d’écoles, des axes routiers saturés, une offre de transport en commun insuffisante, un manque d’infrastructures communautaires et récréatives et, surtout, la perte de nos milieux naturels. »
— Une citation de Bettyna Bélizaire, conseillère municipale du district du Plateau

Bettyna Bélizaire sourit.

L'avis de proposition du règlement de contrôle intérimaire restreignant le développement immobilier avait été déposé par la conseillère municipale du district du Plateau, Bettyna Bélizaire.

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Bettyna Bélizaire, qui a déposé cette demande de moratoire en février dernier, soutient que ce secteur de la ville fait face à un développement immobilier "important et soutenu". Elle explique vouloir un règlement pour « gérer cette croissance et la planifier pour les années à venir ».

"Les conversations des dernières semaines, tous secteurs confondus – on parle des citoyens, des collègues, des développeurs –, montraient qu’il fallait réfléchir, mais surtout agir face au développement de l’ouest", a souligné Mme Bélizaire cette semaine.

Ce règlement viendrait protéger certaines chaussées dans des zones en développement, afin d'éviter des expropriations dans les années futures.

"On dit aux promoteurs : "Vous pouvez continuer à développer, mais de façon différente, sur des sites un peu plus reculés, pour permettre de protéger une zone spécifique"", explique pour sa part M. Champagne.
Protection de la rainette faux-grillon

Par ailleurs, la Ville pourrait adopter un deuxième règlement intérimaire afin de protéger l'habitat de la rainette faux-grillon, une espèce de grenouille menacée que l'on trouve dans plusieurs districts de Gatineau.

Daniel Champagne assure tout de même que les projets de développement immobilier en cours ne seront pas remis en question.
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Daniel Champagne est conseiller municipal du district du Versant à Gatineau. (Photo d'archives)

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"J'insiste : ce qu'on veut faire par le règlement de contrôle intérimaire en ce qui a trait à la rainette faux-grillon, c'est protéger les endroits où il n'y a présentement pas de développement pour s'assurer qu'il n'y aura pas de ce type de développement dans l'avenir", ajoute-t-il.
À lire aussi :

L’industrie de la construction s’oppose au moratoire proposé par Action Gatineau
La rainette faux-grillon maintenant menacée, Gatineau appelée à en faire plus

Une excellente nouvelle, selon Conservation de la nature Canada

La directrice de programmes pour la région de l'Ouest du Québec chez Conservation de la nature Canada, Caroline Gagné, soutient que ce pas vers l'adoption des deux règlements est une excellente nouvelle pour la rainette faux-grillon.

"C'est une preuve d'évolution de notre société [...] et c'est une décision politisée de donner la chance à la rainette", renchérit-elle.

Cependant, Caroline Gagné rappelle que la rainette vit dans deux régions du Québec, soit en Outaouais et en Montérégie. De ce fait, l'effort des deux régions administratives pour protéger l'espèce est important. "C'est l'affaire de tout le monde."

Le règlements de contrôle intérimaire sera soumis au vote à l'occasion des prochains conseils.
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The following was in Glen Gower's weekly email:
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In April, the Ontario Land Tribunal (OLT) ordered the approval of the Draft Plan of Subdivision and Zoning By-law Amendment applications at 1981 Maple Grove Road. Claridge appealed their application last year before the file came to Planning Committee and City Council for approval.

The subdivision will include 212 homes, a park, and construction of the Maple Grove-Stittsville Main intersection. The OLT’s approval is final and not subject to further appeal or public comment. You can read more here: https://www.glengower.ca/development/update-ontario-land-tribunal-decision-for-1981-maple-grove/
It seems odd to me that Claridge would appeal to the OLT before either the Planning Committee or City Council even looked at the file. What am I missing?
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It seems odd to me that Claridge would appeal to the OLT before either the Planning Committee or City Council even looked at the file. What am I missing?
if they submitted to the city and the file wasn't brought to planning committee within a certain amount of time (i can't remember what that time is), that is grounds to appeal to the OLT.
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Yup, that's a new rule imposed by the Province; Cities have to go through applications much faster, with no additional resources. This seems to be one of Ford's favourite things to do; force institutions to do more with less.
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Yup, that's a new rule imposed by the Province; Cities have to go through applications much faster, with no additional resources. This seems to be one of Ford's favourite things to do; force institutions to do more with less.
The city is free to increase its resources but the cities to cheap to do so, and it's incredibly difficult currently to hire it retain said planning staff due to cost of living.

The city is also free to free up its current resources by reducing the number of ZBA required. By simplifying zoning and upzoning the city to match is official plan. But the city is dragging it's heal on that as well, with way to long of a community consultation process.

The city could reduce the processing time by reducing required processes for certain ZBA

In the end there are cities that can and do process these planning files in the required time, so no this isn't a provincial issue, its a local one created by the city giving into local nimbys. Like those that oppose anything higher then 4 stories on mainstreets...
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3285 Greenbank for sale. Dymon storage coming up? https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/25620...=socialsharelisting&propertyIds=25620456. Would love to see density there.
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Yup, that's a new rule imposed by the Province; Cities have to go through applications much faster, with no additional resources. This seems to be one of Ford's favourite things to do; force institutions to do more with less.
There is some truth to that statement but City staff over the years have given such mixed message divergent comments on development files that drag applications through file churn and so many staff are incapable of providing definitive communication. They are masters at wiggle room mealy mouthed answers. The last three years of dealing with them in the Covid era has been hard on many people and my understanding is that many staff are looking elsewhere but other than other municipal entities few staff are enticing prospects for the private sector to snap them up.
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Barrhaven officials look to establish community as more than a ‘sleepy suburb’

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July 5, 2023 4:45 PM ET


As one of the province’s fastest-growing suburbs, Barrhaven is more than a bedroom community and has a lot to offer residents and businesses, officials say.

“We’re really focusing on adding that place-making vibrancy so that people realize that we’re no longer the sleepy suburb anymore,” said Andrea Steenbakkers, executive director of the Barrhaven BIA.

The community recently reached 100,000 residents, which has led to efforts to reimagine the future, including further development. Last year, all three levels of government committed funding to help create a downtown district that would be the “beating heart” of the community, according to Steenbakkers. The initiative would include a new civic building, performing arts centre, library, outdoor plaza, shops and residential apartments.

But even before these projects get underway, Steenbakkers said Barrhaven has already become its own self-sustaining community.

“We really are a true work-shop-play-live community and a very large one at that,” she said. “We have all the amenities here. We have over 500 stores and services, recreation centres, parkways, pathways, rivers, you name it.”

The “I Heart Barrhaven” campaign, designed to bring urban experiences to the suburbs, is part of that effort.

“As a BIA, we’ve traditionally focused on reaching our primary market with outreach, but now we intend to expand and let people in surrounding regions know all that Barrhaven has to offer,” said Steenbakkers.

Last month, four eight-foot-tall hearts were unveiled across Barrhaven. The red metal structures were created as a backdrop for people to take photos, much like the Ottawa sign in the ByWard Market.

The BIA has also wrapped 20 traffic control boxes around the community with four designs produced by a local artist meant to represent the various types of businesses that make up the community. Barrhaven T-shirts were also unveiled with proceeds going to support the Barrhaven Food Cupboard.

“We are excited to bring urban style installations to our community to add a sense of pride and excitement,” said Crystal Logan, Barrhaven BIA’s marketing director. “We like to be leaders and are working to reinvent what it means to be a suburb and this was a large motivation in our new place-making initiatives.”

BIA officials say they started to notice a positive shift in community pride during the pandemic. Residents were spending more time at home and local businesses saw a boost in traffic.

“For years we were a bedroom community where businesses thrived Thursday night, Friday and Saturday. But now they have a steady seven-days-a-week stream of customers,” said Steenbakkers.

Rising costs, staffing shortages, and transit all pose challenges

However, as with most business districts, Barrhaven faces challenges, including the rising cost of doing business and staff shortages across industries.

“It affects everyone,” said Steenbakkers. “Things that are top of mind in terms of cost are lease and rent, hydro, the cost of food, the cost of labour, just generally dealing with inflation. It’s a huge issue for everybody. Plus, people are a lot more particular with how they’re spending money from the consumer standpoint because their own personal cost of living has gone up as well.”

Barrhaven has several unique challenges. Accessibility has been a big issue, especially for employers, according to Steenbakkers. She said the community lacks good, reliable transit routes that service the business district.

“We have definitely seen cuts and changes to our routes since the LRT started to be built,” she said. “A lot of express routes have changed. It was a problem before the pandemic, but now, locally, it’s even more of a problem. Just getting around Barrhaven is very, very difficult. You can’t just take one bus to get around.”

The lack of transit has made it difficult to attract customers from outside the community, as well as workers.

“We want to make sure that the people who want to work in Barrhaven are able to take transit and access our business centres,” she said. “The Amazon facility opening in our far west business area has improved transit in that area, but we definitely need more internal transit in and around Barrhaven.”

Growth brings shifting demographics

According to Steenbakkers, Barrhaven’s growth and increased residential offerings have led to shifting demographics in the area.

“It’s allowing empty nesters to sell their four- or five-bedroom family home and it’s offering smaller spaces for people who are buying their first home or are young professionals who don’t have kids yet.”

As Barrhaven continues to grow, so do newer residential communities such as Half Moon Bay. The City of Ottawa has received applications to bring commercial retail development to that side of the Jock River, including two grocery stores. Barrhaven West Coun. David Hill said he expects shovels to be in the ground by the end of year.

Residential development and demographic changes have had a significant impact on business in the area.

“We’ve had quite a bit of retail and business park growth coming down the pipe as well,” Steenbakkers said. She added that the influx of new residents with different household types has prompted more diverse business offerings, especially in retail.

“I have seen a lot more balance in terms of the makeup of our business community,” she said. “We’re definitely seeing more little independents pop up. We were pretty heavy on professional services … before and I feel it’s becoming a lot more balanced, with more traditional retail.”

Barrhaven has low vacancy rates for retail space, which has led leasing costs to rise.

“It’s a supply and demand thing,” Steenbakkers said. “It’s just so fast-growing. The number of businesses wanting to come here exceeds the amount of available space.”

Councillor keeping focus on Barrhaven expansion

Barrhaven East Coun. Wilson Lo said the changing retail landscape means residents no longer need to travel to Merivale Road to access services. With more people staying in the community, his focus has been on ensuring infrastructure keeps up with growth.

As a supporter of remote and hybrid work, Lo said it can’t be up to suburban residents to support downtown businesses.

“I don’t think we should be responsible for supporting downtown businesses. I think downtown residents should support downtown businesses just like how Barrhaven supports Barrhaven and Kanata supports Kanata,” said Lo. “Downtown needs to support itself. It can’t rely on people who don’t want to be there.”

Part of that change, Lo said, is having more people live in the downtown core.

“It can’t just be a residential building, a commercial building, or an office building. It needs to be a mixed space,” he said. “You can have shops on the ground floor — the first few floors even — and a shared work space above.”

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72 Units of affordable housing going up in the Plateau kitty corner to Agora

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