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Old Posted Apr 7, 2023, 3:12 PM
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loblaws superstore I used to shop at almost my entire life as they were always cheaper than safeway, sobeys or save on foods here in winnipeg, but this past year I switched to sobeys. prices a the same or a bit cheaper at sobeys but the items are fresher meat i find cheaper and the store layout is smaller and easier to navigate than that of a giant superstore.
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It's incredibly tonedeaf in the first place, let alone during continued public anxiety over grocers inflating prices and gouging customers. Galen has to be living on another planet if he thinks that being in Loblaws/PC commercials benefits the brand in any way. He probably doesn't care anyway because they're still making record profits regardless.

Their commercial during Christmas gave off strong minstrel vibes and was off-putting, IMO.
Now you've made me very curious about Galen Weston minstrel Christmas ads!
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One thing about the record profits of our oligarch companies - the profits are at least being captured by our governments. Ontario's corporate tax revenues increased by 80% between 2019 and 2022 and that's the main reason why Ontario has been able to go from huge deficits to balanced budgets.
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2023, 5:14 PM
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It's incredibly tonedeaf in the first place, let alone during continued public anxiety over grocers inflating prices and gouging customers. Galen has to be living on another planet if he thinks that being in Loblaws/PC commercials benefits the brand in any way. He probably doesn't care anyway because they're still making record profits regardless.

Their commercial during Christmas gave off strong minstrel vibes and was off-putting, IMO.
Gotta give Jimmy Pattison credit, at least he knows better than to impose himself on Save On Foods' marketing. Absolutely no one is going warm up to this billionaire Mr. Burns lookalike:



Instead they trot out this CEO dweeb who always appears in ads cosplaying as a simpleton greengrocer:

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I am surprised. I would have expect it to focus on a pie in Galen Weston's face. The only issue is if it would be a premium presidents choice pie or a non-name pie. In these days of penny pinching likely it would be the no-name variety.

Loblaws does need to switch from Galen to a mascot. Perhaps a fluffy teddy bear. However most Canadian would likely think a vultures or modern day scrounge would be more fitting mascot.
I believe it was in the 1980s when they sold these and used them as mascots in the Insider's Report. My brother had the set when he was quite young.



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loblaws superstore I used to shop at almost my entire life as they were always cheaper than safeway, sobeys or save on foods here in winnipeg, but this past year I switched to sobeys. prices a the same or a bit cheaper at sobeys but the items are fresher meat i find cheaper and the store layout is smaller and easier to navigate than that of a giant superstore.
Yeah, there’s little value in discount grocery shopping these days unless you’re going to No Frills or something but those are few and far between here in the lower mainland. I usually just go to Safeway or Save On Foods (which are far more abundant) and buy what’s on sale, so the prices end up being close enough. Plus they take Amex.
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French QSR Concept O’Tacos Expanding into Canada with Plans for 50+ Locations
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Anyone tried one in France? They will start in Quebec and university areas with lots of students.

https://retail-insider.com/retail-in...ons-interview/
Yeah, it’s a pretty disgusting disfiguration of a shawarma. No doubt will cost $20 a wrap when they finally open up. I get the feeling they won’t last long here.
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In Vancouver, I found the Denman No Frills had the lowest prices. Other than No Frills and Walmart, grocery shopping in BC sucked, so expensive at Never Save On, Un Safeway, Low-quality etc. Although No Frills prices tend to be cheaper in Ontario, especially outside downtown Toronto.

GW lives near Admiral Road in the posh area where Yorkville meets the Annex. I used to see him all the time when I frequented the area - rumors were he'd get his nanny to shop at Whole Foods.
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There’s already a “french taco” place in Toronto and van (maybe more locations) called Brick and Cheese. It’s more of a burrito than shawarma - has meat and fries in it. Not too bad but definitely drunk food.
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It sounds more like those gyros on the Danforth that are served with fries inside the wrap - extremely unhealthy. Freedom Tacos?
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It sounds more like those gyros on the Danforth that are served with fries inside the wrap - extremely unhealthy. Freedom Tacos?
Fries inside the wrap is actually the authentic version. It you actually go to the Eastern Mediterranean region, and get a Greek gyro, Lebanese shawarma, Turkish kebab wrap, Israeli sabich, etc.. there will usually be fries in the wrap
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Ah yes, Greek gyros. Yeah, it's definitely drunk food...not very good, but it's for certain tastes.

I've begun shopping at the biggest Loblaws that's local to me, because the "urban" one near me has such poor selection due to it's small size, and is frequently out of stock due to it's location in a busier area. The prices are the same, but I'm being much more careful about what I buy these days.
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Loblaws is a disgusting company, horrible to work for and for their vendors. Cheap cheap cheap and poorly run, run they dominate so much that they don't care. I worked for Superstore in 2000 and it was full of scumbags then, from store managers all the way up to corporate it had a terrible reputation, which was substantiated by many (of course that's subjective, but seeing the public's reaction to Galen isn't surprising, since they have always been known as slimy). Tone deaf is right, he is so unbelievably off-putting to see AND listen to (the radio ads are just as unbearable just with his voice, so that says something).

The comparisons between Jim Pattison and Galen Weston are that they are billionaires and have grocery operations. That's as far as it goes. The Weston's are a family enterprise and quite an elitist bunch who never really say their employees or the public as equals, to say the least. Their charity and community involvement are pretty shabby considering the company's size, it is more just lip service and tax write-offs, rather than being genuinely neighbourly. Considering just how much of the grocery market they control, the scrutiny on him is understandable. Granted I am biased because I hated his guts even before this latest drama between him and the government/the people, but I do think the hatred towards him is justified.

Jim Pattison is a totally different story. Grew up rural, not rich, and worked like crazy from a young age, in manual labour and otherwise. He truly made his empire from nothing, his hard work is well documented, and it continues to today. Still goes into work daily more or less, and has an active role in the company. But just because someone's self made doesn't automatically make them good or better. It's not the fact that he earned it from the ground up, it's that he really built his company in a decent way, and didn't only look at profits when making decisions (obviously he's not stupid and wants to make the company money, but it is through wise investments and an extremely diverse portfolio, rather than price gauging). As people have said, Save On isn't cheap, yet people never seem to complain much about any of the JP brands. And they range a lot in target market and price (ie, Save On, Buy-Low, Nesters, Quality Foods, PriceSmart, Urban Fair, Choices, Natures Fare, Reinhardt are all Pattison companies, and people continue to shop at these even when cheaper alternatives exist all over BC). But more than price, I think people's perception of Jim Pattison is very different than Weston. If people didn't know, Pattison is enormously philanthropic, probably one of the most in the country. He's funded the construction of most of Metro Vancouver's hospitals (ie. VGH, the new St. Paul's, a huge part of Surrey Memorial, and the upcoming Royal Columbian hospital were all from him). Also a big donation in Saskatchewan, where he's originally from. Also, unlike Weston, his business empire has tons of divisions, grocery is just one part. So Weston is really putting himself from and centre to see his company (and its groceries), whereas Pattison would never dream of being the face of his grocery division, even if he were younger. Despite him looking like a scrooge, he's the opposite (he's 94 and still works, commutes to his office, runs the company, runs charities, is married to someone he met at 13 and has been married for like 70 years, I think he looks good considering).

I do happen to work for a Pattison company, but truly I am not the kind of person to drink the Kool Aid at a job. I am not saying this out of some company allegiance, it's because he is not like the Weston family figures, at all. I think there's a reason why politicians and the public are targeting Weston and not people like Pattison
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Yeah Pattison is "cream of the crap" as far as Billionaires go. We shouldn't be on our knees asking for extra money to build hospitals but at least he does help.

Weston is a giant dickhead.

The only chain store we shop at is really Whole Foods. Otherwise it's smaller shops which are still very competitive price wise, and direct with farms and/or farm markets.
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I believe it was in the 1980s when they sold these and used them as mascots in the Insider's Report. My brother had the set when he was quite young.



And there was a cookie jar:

Cute. Much better that the current spokesperson.
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Yeah Pattison is "cream of the crap" as far as Billionaires go. We shouldn't be on our knees asking for extra money to build hospitals but at least he does help.

Weston is a giant dickhead.

The only chain store we shop at is really Whole Foods. Otherwise it's smaller shops which are still very competitive price wise, and direct with farms and/or farm markets.
Well Whole Foods is Amazon. Not a bastion of ethical standards either.
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Let's face it, all companies are run or managed by scumbags. I remember trying to start a small fashion business and eventually I realized the industry was dominated by legacy families, mostly from Montreal. I even worked for a few of them - pos everyone from the floor supervisor to HR to the owner/his wife being the biggest bitch imaginable. Those cute little boutiques you see on trendy strips are mostly run by their cousins, granddaughters and a few ex drug dealers/mafia to wash their money.

Save On etc doesn't get the negative press probably because BC is so tiny and provincial. Everyone's counting on Jimmy to fund their charities, special causes and political careers. It's either him, the real estate mafia or a few others like Chip Wilson etc. Then there's the fact many Save On Foods customers are millionaires themselves, $2+ million if you own a house. No Frills and Food Basics really are the only sensible grocery stores out west. Even my brother refuses to shop there, claiming they sell inferior produce and meats - excuse me, I worked at the DC and know for a fact everything comes from the same suppliers. BC No Frills certainly have much larger organic product choice than I've seen in Ontario. Everything west of Medicine Hat is sourced from their Calgary DC, so ok there's a 13 hour haul to Vancouver that may be a factor in customer perception, but doubtful. The freshest produce is from your own garden, second best direct from a farm stall at the end of the lane. WF, Farm Boy are fooling you - it's like buying a Lexus vs a Toyota: same suppliers, but the perception you're "privileged" makes your emotions deceive your head.

You may not realize it, but SDM is really just a "convenience store" with a pharmacy. Expect 7-Eleven prices.

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Cute. Much better that the current spokesperson.
When I think back, the PC products that were for babies and children were branded as "Teddy's Choice" and that's how those bears came into being. The bears were well received so they kind of became mascots for all of the Loblaws owned stores.

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Well Whole Foods is Amazon. Not a bastion of ethical standards either.
I never said they were. But I'm ok with it. The stuff is good quality, the people are nice, and the prices aren't as bad as people think.
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