Canadian Retail Thread

[theman23]

Originally Posted by esquire

I think it varies depending on how long a particular ethnic group has been in Canada. At one time Italian and Ukranian immigrants were considered "ethnic" but now the grandchildren or great grandchildren of the original immigrants are basically generic white people. Intermarrying is extremely common.

However, for newer ethnic communities with large numbers of arrivals over the last 20-odd years, it appears to be less common. Not surprising given that those communities of newcomers tend to be way more tight knit as compared to the third or fourth generation Canadian who has no meaningful connection to the "old country", its language and culture, etc.

This may have been true 10 years ago with older millennials, but certainly isn't true for younger millennials and Gen Zs.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Wigs

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Millennials and Gen Z. Friend groups resemble the United Nations. Intermarriage more common the younger they are. Everyone has LGBT friends.

urbandreamer hasn't come to terms yet that he's officially old(er) and becoming increasingly out of touch with present day Canada. As a geezer Millennial I see that I'm not nearly as progressive as my Gen Z cousins.

Hey now don't go getting all ageist on us now!

I think that he's right to point out that the British Isles Canadians (generally English, Scottish and Irish) did merge into a large Anglo-Canadian mass where the original differences matter little. Sure a lot of people may play up their Irish or Scottish heritage, but most of these have a lot of English in them as well. I have kids in my extended family who have tartans and such to play up the Scottish roots of their anglo parent, but in reality that parent is actually half-English. And of course these kids also have French and some other origins due to my side of the family.

French Canadians are also the result of a historical mix of peoples that were fairly distinct in old France: Bretons, Normands, Parisiens, Basques, Picards, Angevins, etc.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by theman23

This may have been true 10 years ago with older millennials, but certainly isn't true for younger millennials and Gen Zs.

I have a hunch it's more closely linked to how deep your roots run in Canada vs. your age.

Someone might be gen z but if they just arrived 6 years ago from India or Ghana as a student, they're likely marrying someone from their own community.

If they arrived 17 years ago as elementary school children, there's a better chance that they will marry someone from outside their ethnic community.

If they were born in Canada, then of course the chances of marrying someone from a different ethnic group increase further. Even more if their parents were born in Canada.

SSP Canada probably has a bit of a cosmopolitan downtown bias. Go look at the weddings taking place this weekend at ethnic banquet halls in the suburbs and you will see a different reality.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by theman23

This may have been true 10 years ago with older millennials, but certainly isn't true for younger millennials and Gen Zs.

This may be incredibly obvious but the rate doesn't tell you about openness (willingness to date/marry somebody vs. actually did date/marry somebody), and when you go back in time or to places with fewer immigrants you have to account for the share of the population. A mistake you see over and over is people looking at rates in older populations, comparing them to the modern demographics, and concluding there is something bad happening (the old white small town people hardly ever marry non-white people, old near-retirement workers are whiter than the population as a whole, etc.). The visible minority % of some towns years in the past can be very low.

I would have said the "UN" thing was true around here about 15 years ago, at least in my social circles. I find that the amount of online angst about these issues (on both sides, like when there was a minor moral panic here about the explosion in anti-Asian old lady shoving events supposedly due to covid, which I think traced back to 1 crackhead on Main Street pushing 1 old lady) seems out of proportion to the IRL reality of things being fine (except for housing supply/prices, which is a "not enough housing relative to number of people" problem, not something that would be fixed if the ethnicity of the people changed).

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by esquire

I have a hunch it's more closely linked to how deep your roots run in Canada vs. your age.

Someone might be gen z but if they just arrived 6 years ago from India or Ghana as a student, they're likely marrying someone from their own community.

If they arrived 17 years ago as elementary school children, there's a better chance that they will marry someone from outside their ethnic community.

If they were born in Canada, then of course the chances of marrying someone from a different ethnic group increase further. Even more if their parents were born in Canada.

SSP Canada probably has a bit of a cosmopolitan downtown bias. Go look at the weddings taking place this weekend at ethnic banquet halls in the suburbs and you will see a different reality.

As I said earlier, I also think a lot of this is related more to the sheer size of contemporary ethnic communities as opposed to a generalized change in mindset.

Pretty sure that parents in most any ethnic community 100-150 years ago also preferred for their kids to "marry their own kind", but in many cases there weren't that many prospects around.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Hey now don't go getting all ageist on us now!

I think that he's right to point out that the British Isles Canadians (generally English, Scottish and Irish) did merge into a large Anglo-Canadian mass where the original differences matter little. Sure a lot of people may play up their Irish or Scottish heritage, but most of these have a lot of English in them as well. I have kids in my extended family who have tartans and such to play up the Scottish roots of their anglo parent, but in reality that parent is actually half-English. And of course these kids also have French and some other origins due to my side of the family.

French Canadians are also the result of a historical mix of peoples that were fairly distinct in old France: Bretons, Normands, Parisiens, Basques, Picards, Angevins, etc.

My maternal grandparents had to elope because it was downright scandalous that my Protestant (English/Irish heritage) grandmother married my Catholic (Scottish/French heritage (Alsace-Lorraine) grandfather in the 1940s My grandmother was 1 of 3, my grandfather was 1 of 12 kids (Catholic stereotype)

I'd like to do a DNA test to see how much French I have.
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Canadians Lose Trust in Grocers While Wanting More Price Freezes and Competition [Survey/Op-Ed]
By Sylvain Charlebois
April 4, 2023

A total of 30.3% of Canadians think grocery chain price gouging is the main reason food prices have been rising in Canada recently. A total of 29.9% believe inflation (or monetary/fiscal policies) are to blame as the main contributing factor for higher food prices. In fact, both Quebec and Saskatchewan are the only provinces where the highest percentage wasn’t grocer price gouging, but rather inflation/monetary/fiscal policies. A total of 36.1% of Quebecers believe monetary policies are the main factor for higher food inflation, and 32.1% of people in Saskatchewan think the same.

We asked questions about what grocers can do to help consumers. While 46.6% would appreciate more price freezes, 44.2% expect more transparency related to food sales specifically. While 36.4% of respondents wish loyalty programs would be more generous, a total of 33.4% of respondents would like more competition in Canada.

We asked questions about what governments can do. A total of 44.0% of respondents believe that governments should intervene and regulate the price of some staples at the grocery store

I'm surprised only 30% think price gouging is main cause when clearly grocers are taking advantage of inflation to charge way more and make record profits.
https://retail-insider.com/retail-in...-survey-op-ed/

Anecdotally, I have an acquaintance on twitter that used to be an extreme couponer. She has grocery receipts dating back to 2017. A $70 (pre tax) dollar grocery trip to No Frills in 2017 should be according to the Bank of Canada inflation calculator approximately $83 dollars today.

She priced out all the items and found that $70 2017 trip today in 2023 is closer to $158! (pre tax)
Westonianflation, mon dieu
No wonder Galen is getting a salary boost.

[MolsonExport]

I track grocery prices very carefully, and I have a photographic memory (well, nearly so) for statistics and numbers. Groceries have more than doubled in price since 2017, while my salary is up by a quarter of that amount.

fucking Westonflation. Galenflation?

I can't stand that guy. I loathe him even more than Mr. Constipation voice (Chad Kroeger), Onctueux (Ben Mulroney), Mr. Avarice (His Royal Rectumness Conrad Black of Assgasharbour, or Kevin O'Leary).

[harls]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I track grocery prices very carefully, and I have a photographic memory (well, nearly so) for statistics and numbers. Groceries have more than doubled in price since 2017, while my salary is up by a quarter of that amount.

fucking Westonflation. Galenflation?

I can't stand that guy. I loathe him even more than Mr. Constipation voice (Chad Kroeger), Onctueux (Ben Mulroney), Mr. Avarice (His Royal Rectumness Conrad Black of Assgasharbour, or Kevin O'Leary).

This will make you like him even more:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/gro...tion-1.6802091

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by harls

This will make you like him even more:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/gro...tion-1.6802091

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=7469

[MolsonExport]

Galen Weston says to Canadians who can’t afford bread, “Let them eat McCain’s Deep N Delicious Frozen Cake, or even better, NO-Name Frosted Dog Turd Surprise"

“My servants inform me that the unwashed Canadian masses are having difficulty affording their No Name Brand Instant Sad Gruel, or whatever it is they eat,” said Galen Weston Jr., as he was carried to his office in his sedan chair. “And obviously that’s very upsetting to hear, because it’s important to me that Canadians have the energy they need to make it through their shifts stocking the shelves at Superstore. So I recommend that Canadians simply eat McCain’s Deep N Delicious Frozen cakes, which I’m told are frozen blocks of trans fats packed with the 1680 calories required for a full day of making me even more money.”

Working Canadians across the country were largely unreceptive to the idea of sustaining themselves on McCain’s Deep N Delicious Frozen Cake.

“I just don’t think it’s practical for my family to survive on cold slabs of cake that, left to their own devices, will outlive us all,” said Mary Shelburne, a single mother of three in the Windsor area. “Instead, my family will be getting its energy from imagining the exact look on God’s face as he trips Galen Weston on the steps up to Heaven and slams the gate right in his face.”

Weston Jr challenged the idea that Canadians could not survive on slabs of nostalgic frozen cake. “My experts inform me that if Canadians shop smart and ration out the individual blooms of McCain’s frozen cake icing, each cake is enough to make it through another full week of grinding poverty.”

[harls]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=7469

Oops missed that.

Look at that fucking smug smile. He reminds me of that asshole that jacked the price of the epipen. Two peas in a pod.

Edit - this asswad:



Source: Galen's yacht party

[someone123]

Are there grocery and pharmaceutical price denialists or revisionists similar to the housing price people?

Food hasn't gone up. You just need to stop buying fancy Superstore ground beef and go dumpster diving or eat roadkill like middle class people did in 2007.
Back in my day we didn't need insulin. We went into diabetic comas and we liked it.

[Wigs]

Hey guys, the castle in England, mansion in Caledon, mansion in Florida and elsewhere don't pay for themselves. The Canadian Loblaws Co store shoppers do!

[Wigs]

harls, the difference is Shkreli came from nothing and Galen was born basically in a castle.
but yes both have the untrustworthy "you're getting f***** over" grin

[harls]

Originally Posted by Wigs

harls, the difference is Shkreli came from nothing and Galen was born basically in a castle.
but yes both have the untrustworthy "you're getting f***** over" grin

Yes, that is what I was going for - they both share the 'IDGAF' smirk whilst being subjected to a hearing.

With those shit-eating grins.

[urbandreamer]

I don't hang out with Gen Zers because they're kids ... quite literally folks my age have children born in the late 1990s and later - I helped raise one born in 2005. They're childish, always on SM, and quite ignorant of history.

I've never dated anyone from my ethnic background (Scotch-Irish American/Scottish/Empire Loyalist/English.) I've had Filipina, Polynesian, Japanese, French Canadian, Jewish, Maltese, Peruvian, Trinidadian and Mennonite (Alsace-Lorraine historically) girlfriends. Looking back, culturally the French Canadian girl was most open minded, Canadian and interesting of the bunch.

[Wigs]

French QSR Concept O’Tacos Expanding into Canada with Plans for 50+ Locations
By Mario Toneguzzi
April 3, 2023

Foodtastic is partnering with QSRP to bring at least 50 O’Tacos locations to Canada beginning later this year.

QSRP owns the O’Tacos brand which was founded in 2007 in France and currently has more than 300 locations.

Mammas said the O’Tacos brand is one of the most popular quick service restaurants in France.

“It’s owned by a company called QSRP which is also the largest Burger King franchisee in Europe. They bought this brand a couple of years ago and they doubled its size within 36 months,” said Mammas.

“It’s kind of a take of a mix of burrito and taco. It’s something in France that’s very popular called a French taco. So basically they fill a burrito with creamy cheese inside and it’s been a runaway hit, especially with students and people on the go.”

Anyone tried one in France? They will start in Quebec and university areas with lots of students.

https://retail-insider.com/retail-in...ons-interview/

[quall]

French chain with Irish name selling Algerian-style Mexican street food in Canada

AFAIK there is already at least a couple of "French taco" chains in Montreal. We had one such restaurant here in Ottawa's west end but I don't think it even lasted three years (though I'm sure opening during COVID was a factor). Doubt it will catch on.

[manny_santos]

Originally Posted by esquire

Good question. I think a few may have opened across Canada in the wake of Eaton's final closure (when it was owned by Sears). I know HBC opened a Bay store at Winnipeg's largest mall, Polo Park, sometime around 2005. At that point it supplanted the old downtown flagship as the main Bay store in the city. That was probably the last hurrah.

London’s two Bay stores were born out of Simpson’s. The White Oaks store was a Simpson’s originally, and while the Masonville store replaced Eaton’s in 2000, it was a move from downtown. The original Bay location was Simpson’s at Dundas and Richmond, moving to Galleria in 1989.

I think that story repeats in a lot of Ontario, where Simpson’s used to dominate.

[manny_santos]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Worst for me was undoubtedly the Sears Outlet in beautiful London Ontario, just before they closed for good. The place might have once been a Woolco or Kmart or something, and it had absolutely no renovations since opening in the 1960s. In it, was nothing but shopworn floor models, scratch & dent appliances, and expired fashion. Most customers were "seniors on a budget". Absolutely soul-sucking.

It was a Kmart up until 1996. London had two Kmart locations up until that time; both closed and were replaced by a single location on Highbury which became Zellers only a couple years later, and now Walmart. The other original location, I think, was also on Highbury but I forget where exactly.

“London Mall” was a sad mall even in the early 90s, except they had Dairy Queen out front.